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- teckjunkie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15ACTUAL Direct Links:
Windows without trial content: (10.2 MB)
http://trials.adobe.com/pub/esd/labs/lightroom/lightroom_b4_standalone_09-24.msi
Windows with trial content: (121.1 MB)
http://trials.adobe.com/pub/esd/labs/lightroom/lightroom_b4_samples_09-24.msi
Mac without trial content: (14.4MB)
http://trials.adobe.com/pub/esd/labs/lightroom/lightroom_b4_standalone_09-24.dmg
Mac with trial content: (181.5 MB)
http://trials.adobe.com/pub/esd/labs/lightroom/lightroom_b4_samples_09-24.dmg - ShadowVox, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15There should be an automatic digg down for titles with excessive exclamation marks...
- elmimmo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Still no compatibility with Adobe Camera RAW XMP sidecar files, which is just either hilarious or pathetic, you choose.
Do not take me wrong, on the surface seems like a nice app for a photographer to organize photo sessions, but I am not spending anything more than 5 min before ACR and Lightroom share the same RAW rendering engine (and can access the same features). - ab2650, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6From Adobe's announcement email:
"We're pleased to announce that Adobe Photoshop Lightroom beta 4 is now ready for you to download and use. This is the first release to reveal the full name we are giving to the product, as Lightroom takes its place as the newest member of the Photoshop family of digital imaging and photography software.
"Beta 4 is our biggest milestone to date, with several enhancements and additions, including the achievement of full feature parity between the Windows and Mac OS versions of Lightroom. No matter which platform you prefer, you can now bring the full power of Lightroom beta to your photos." - stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5www.bugmenot.com has adobe logins
- smithco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5What's worse is that neither the Digg description or that on Adob's webpage actually say what the software does. I've surmised that it's something to do with professional photography, which all photo editing tools claim to be and one of the screen shots shows some colour correction tools, which every photo editor has.
Without a good description, I'm not offered any reason to be interested in I might download it to see what the heck it is, but only 'cause I'm bored. - mrTribal, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Should be good. Hopefully they've optimised it a bit. Still looks better than Apeture.
- justinmorris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I still don't understand why Lightroom does not support Adobe's own format?! I have thousands of pictures I've worked on in Bridge, there's no way I can redo all those photos.
Why cannot it at least import the settings? - griz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It has been out for more than a year in Beta. If you have an interest in digital photography image workflow you have likely heard of Lightroom by now. If not, you need to dust off that film camera and sell it on e-bay.
- Flimnit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nothing beats Raw Shooter Premium 2006 version. Adobe bought them out and hacked the program up and now it sucks.
- BlastolaCola, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So many diggs for the beta of a program that's built for photographers who shoot camera raw? Are all of you people really photographers or just software junkies? If you don't already know what this is, don't bother.
- Autoclave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2In the preferences(under file management) it does say "develop settings are not yet compatible with adobe camera raw" so looks like they're working on it, yet being the operable word.
- Sartori, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Well, it is only a Beta version. Perhaps that'll make it in for the final release?
- modernpixel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Was playing with it last night before bed. Really a big improvement over the last version. This product is gonna be pretty kick-ass when it's done. I hope it comes bundled with CS3.
- DreadPirateWes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Blah nothing but a shiny gui...there's no real functionality with it. Nothing you can't get somewhere else (even in open source apps). Unless they'll be passing this out for free it won't be worth the eventual insane pricetag that Adobe usually forces on people.
- spyk3d, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Ok, I've been using this all this morning (UK time) and it's definitely an improvment over beta3. Rendering library thumbnails is still sloooooooow however - I'd love to know what it's doing.
However, there's still the major question as to who this application is aimed at. It integrates with Photoshop, so isn't expected to be fully standalone from that; and is way more clunky than Rawshooter; it doesn't support multi-monitor setups nor tethered shooting. It's an odd combination and hence probably a very niche market.
I wish them good luck with it, but suspect it's not going to sell in the thousands. - victor_smithe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Photoshop Lightroom Beta 4!
New features sound interesting... I wish the download site wasn't being flakey :(
Patience I guess - jbsnyder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Meh, sorry, it was late, I saw it pop into my inbox. I've been beaten on submission for most of the other big stories I've tried to submit.
I just made sure I was downloading it first before submission :-D - jaymzz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@gerkin, Blastolacola
Yes, I have used it. Not supporting folders is a deal-killer, because of the gigs upon gigs of RAWs I have stored this way and access this way. It would be a different story if the results were better (or even faster) than PhotoShop, RawShooter, CaptureOne, Bibble, or any of the many other superior products out there on the market. This is Picasa with a different skin. - jaymzz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Still doesn't support folders, which makes it a toy. Regrettably, as a RawShooter Pro owner, I will own a license to this toy when it comes out. That'll teach me to buy software.
- gerkin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What kind of folder support are you looking for? If you're talking about breaking up shoots and collections it support this already. You jsut have to RTFM .. oh ya wait , there is no manual ;) LOL
I agree with the above poster ... calling this a toy means you haven't been able to figure out how to run it yet. It's much more powerful than any other RAW integrated stuff I've played with to date. And yes, there WILL be full Camera RAW support. They have stated that many many times now.
As for a comparison to Aperture .... apples and oranges here. Lightroom does stuff that Aperture (even 1.5) doesn't even get close to doing, especially for organizing your materials. - Autoclave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, tried it last night, and it's actually semi usable now. PC beta 3 would take 3 seconds to just process a slider move.
There is still an annoying 1/4 sec delay/fuzziness after doing anything while it re-renders the image, but at least now it feels like it's actually doing something. I still don't like the zoom method, only 4 choices fit/fill/1:1/4:1 and I haven't found a way to change it other than going up to the menu on the sidebar.
In the preferences it does say "develop settings are not yet compatible with adobe camera raw" so looks like they're working on it. - smithco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I am an avid amateur photographer, but I don't follow every announcement of beta software, so no, I didn't know what lightroom was. But now that I've tried it, I know that it's pretty much just colour correction software with a shiny interface and is really slow at loading up images. I still don't see what the differentiating feature of this program is.
- Sartori, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The fact that it links to adobe.com may provide some information about who makes it. I'm all for having more information in the summary, but the title itself is fine I think.
- Royal0rleans, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3It's okay, because lightroom beta 4 is OUT!!!
- BlastolaCola, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I think the idea of new DAM software is to tag keywords, so you could just tag an entire shoot something unique to make a "folder" for it, as well as leaving it searchable by other terms as well.
Calling this a toy is not understanding its use. - kevinmtu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2it did?
- chrisfl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0really? which apps support Raw Images? Allow colour changes and rotations.
I've just managed to sort, and post process 500 raw images that I took at a wedding. Using this tool was ideal. I used the ratings system to choose the best of the images.
I then went through my selection of 200 images and adjusted the colour balance as appropriate. A few of the pictures were also cropped and rotated. All within a few hours.
For this specific job this is a good productivity tool. Allthough I suspect that you are right about the price... - zonk3r, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Heh, his statement will probably be accurate tomorrow.
My guess is Adobe released today to get a little press before Apple's release tomorrow. - Skeuomorph, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5Lightroom home page (thanks jbsnyder for linking to it instead of blogs):
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom
Lightroom download page (both Win and Mac, requires your Adobe ID):
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_lightroom
Mac: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?event=custom&sku=RC00266&e=labs_lightroom
Win: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?event=custom&sku=RC00267&e=labs_lightroom
There's a page between these that's still having trouble after 9 this morning. - veniv, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0I like the improvements in filtering and tone curve adjustments! must try it out.
http://www.sleektools.net/sleekview.html - chrisfl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Good question, from some of the comments here I think that some people may have missed the point that this is for RAW image processing and is workflow based, this means that it lets you make most of the the basic changes such as cropping, colour adjustment etc. These are stored in an xml file so no changes to the original image need to be made.
Having just taken 300 RAW images from a wedding, I'm looking forward to trying this out for processing.
Chris (http://www.chrisfleming.org/) - BobMysterioso, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6Please digg submitters, please put a little more info in the title.
Such as - Adobe Lightroom Beta 4 is out.
This way I'd know its an Adobe product, and while that is a vast array of products, it at least tells me its not some freeware gui prettymaker. I'm not even commenting on the exclamations or the capitalization. Well, I did comment there. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1OMG!!! IT'S OUT!!!
- fudgebrown, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5pass.... I'll stick with Aperture.
- eggyacid, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5no thanks, Aperture 1.5 just came out!
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