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- ParanoydAndroid, on 07/18/2008, -3/+81I have a lot of problems with this article, it strikes me as biased.
I use gmail for my home e-mail, and Outlook with an exchange server at work. There are definitely areas where there is no clear winner (like folders vs.tags), and so his opinion is fine; however, when it comes to contact management I really don't think there's a contest, especailly when discussing Outlook 2007. He gave gmail a win for web apps integration while totally ignoring the fact that Outlook has incredible contact integration all across the board for the Office Suite, or hell, the OS in general. And on an exchange server a server hosted Address Book makes the whole thing moot. All my contact, even people I've never spoken to before, are right there instantly available to e-mail.
In the end though, it doesn't really matter that much becuase Outlook is an office productivity application, and gmail is not so we're doing apples to oranges. When it comes to my work, I don't care about any of the rest of labels or spam, etc .. with Outlook workflow the way it is, that one advantage makes a whole world of difference to me. I share my calender, schedule meetings, get reminders, make to do lists, and journal all through the one piece of software at work. I would die without Outlook's productivity management. - Shogi, on 07/19/2008, -2/+32Why are they comparing Outlook to Gmail as opposed to say Yahoo! mail versus Gmail or Outlook versus Thunderbird?
Silly. - hivesster, on 07/19/2008, -2/+31I like pine.
- HHP2K, on 07/19/2008, -10/+37The biggest advantage GMail has over outlook: GMail doesn't have a seizure every time you touch it.
- webresources, on 07/19/2008, -4/+23I don't like Microsoft but have to say Outlook is their one of the best apps.
On the other hand GMail is great and has more room to be better as it is online and can be merged with lots of other apps. - OfF3nSiV3, on 07/19/2008, -4/+23Hum comparing a site with a program?
- JQP123, on 07/19/2008, -3/+20GMail has one killer disadvantage --- privacy. This is totally ignored in the article.
- Goallie11, on 07/19/2008, -0/+16I've used gmail for a year and have only gotten 1 spam in my inbox. It's been great at putting all the spam in the spam folder.
- Trapper, on 07/19/2008, -1/+16This really is a ridiculous article. As others have commented Lifehacker have tried to compare a business application with a general use web service.
Personally it smells of the author trying to make another Google is better than Microsoft post, and failing to hide even that - mehan, on 07/19/2008, -1/+14How the ***** do you review Outlook and completely skip over one of it's strongest areas - calendaring?
- DteK, on 07/19/2008, -1/+13comparing a desktop app with a web app
- MrSkrilla, on 07/19/2008, -1/+12I knew what the verdict was before even reading this "unbiased" review. I use Gmail for my personal life and Outlook for work. One issue that was completely ignored was privacy. I work in the tech industry where we deal with all types of IP and have to sign NDA agreements. Want to post that information on Gmail so Google can read it? I also like to keep my personal life and work life separate so I'm not going to be using Outlook to talk with my friends. I would rather have Google read what I did last weekend than my employer.
Another area that was not really taken into account was Outlook's calender. There is no way I could remember my meetings without the reminders that Outlook pops up. You can quickly schedule meetings with your co-workers, look at their schedules, etc...Additionally I completely disagree with the fact that Gmail wins when it comes to the labels vs folders. Having a tree of folders lets me quickly categorize e-mail, get my mail send to different folders, etc... In Gmail it is much easier to miss mail that you filter to a particular label.
Whatever though, this made the front page of digg so obviously it wouldn't be a pro Microsoft review. - Nobiting, on 07/19/2008, -4/+15I Love Lamp.
- clickwir, on 07/19/2008, -19/+30once again. spamhacker is on digg. ... with a wrong useless post. Make the internet better, say no to lifehacker.
- mulletman1004, on 07/19/2008, -1/+9Whats your beef with Lifehacker?
- lemur, on 07/19/2008, -0/+7The premise of this article is false. You can just access your Gmail account with Outlook, so there actually is no "vs" relationship.
- Laminarcissus, on 07/19/2008, -0/+7Since we're all using Digg it's clear we don't have to be anywhere important.
- babyblue, on 07/19/2008, -0/+7I guess most digger don't know what pine is.
- jakem1, on 07/19/2008, -0/+5I agree. The article shouldn't have ignored the calendar in Outlook/Exchange as I'd find that pretty hard to live without as well.
- JoeJim, on 07/19/2008, -1/+6use REPLY
- imdandman, on 07/20/2008, -2/+6Have you ever used Outlook? Doesn't sound like it...
- CrushThemTorg, on 07/18/2008, -2/+6Wait ... how can you tell us the result if it was tl;dr;?
- benologist, on 07/19/2008, -5/+9No. Lifehacker is about identifying what digg users like, then wrapping some fluff and a stack of ads around it and hoping it gets front paged.
- Lemon, on 07/19/2008, -1/+5Ahem, what's keeping your system admin from reading all your email? again, apples/oranges.
- UKsHaDoW, on 07/19/2008, -0/+4Its googles problem though, and they don't really backup. There filesystem makes sure theres other copy's are stored on other disks.
- krete, on 07/19/2008, -6/+10Gmail FTW
- sab0tage, on 07/19/2008, -0/+4FIXED "Gmail has less features. Outlook has more features that are less likely to be used."
- lifenstein, on 05/30/2009, -0/+3@Pusod
Filters. - MrViklund, on 07/19/2008, -3/+6Isn't Lifehacker about hacking your own life?
- Jared14, on 07/19/2008, -0/+3All you have to do is a custom install and choose what components you want.
- gotamd, on 07/19/2008, -0/+3This article is very biased. A lot of the points where I think Outlook is a clear winner are glossed over (contact management? exchange integration?) and declared ties. A lot of the ties, like filtering/labeling and search, were declared wins for Gmail. Like others, I use Outlook for work and Gmail for personal stuff. Each is well-suited to its purpose. We don't always need to declare a hands-down winner, especially when comparing products with different goals in mind.
- MASH007, on 07/19/2008, -0/+3Agreed. Way too biased of an article. I find Outlook with Exchange better much more flexible than gmail could ever become. Though I love gmail for its simplicity I could never give up Outlook in the business world. (They also forgot to compare calendars and mobile sync)
- AndrewWiggin, on 07/19/2008, -2/+5Lifehacker is way less annoying than Engadget and Gizmodo.
- twiztidsinz, on 07/19/2008, -0/+3Because the bottom has a nice little summary.
- EmperorAwesome, on 07/19/2008, -0/+3I'll eat eggplant, I could even eat a baby dear La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, Who's that baby dear on the lawn there?
- WomensUnderwear, on 07/20/2008, -0/+2sounds like the sort of crap people used to say about bluescreens - 'OMG windoze crashes every 2 minutes'
yeah - windows BEFORE xp, since then, nope
you probably used office 97 once and are still trying to wisecrack 10 years on - Jammerdelray, on 07/19/2008, -1/+3Shouldnt this be Outlook vs Thunderbird? Gmail is a service Outlook is a Application.
- vat0r, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2Use google apps to host your domain's email and then use outlook to retrieve it via IMAP. Best of both worlds!!
- sputza, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2The comparison was to Outlook 2007 with Exchange 2003. If you used Exchange, you would not lose 1 email if your computer crashed.
- netrah, on 07/20/2008, -0/+2Gmail: Google indexes you mail and collects info about you for ad tracking and profiling
Outlook: its your mail on your PC no one else is involved - jshabad00, on 07/20/2008, -0/+2Outlook Express (or whatever they call it now) v. Thunderbird
- izelpii, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2I agree with almost all bashers of this article. He is comparing apples vs. oranges. The categories picked and mattered probably some years ago, we need more innovation, right?
Many corporate and web user categories are missing, really poor article from a technical point of view in mho. Not recommended for reading. - crownedgriffin, on 07/19/2008, -4/+6I stopped using Gmail and switched to Live for my peronal email. Gmail's lack of folders just drove me nuts. Labels are stupid.
- Kratos76, on 07/20/2008, -0/+2I think babyblue has it right. I Love pine! Although I haven't used it in... oh, I'd say since the late 90s when the first webmail accounts arrived! Remember the old Excite email?! Yahoo of course... Nothin like our text based PINE though!
- AL7AIR, on 07/20/2008, -0/+2Select a single message of your so called spam, and use the drop down menu on top to select "Filter messages like these ..." create a simple rule based on the complete email or change the filter to *@domain.com: to archive them, skip the inbox, delete them, mark them as read, star them, add a label or whatever, and click the option box to apply the filter to all mails in your inbox and be done with it, for all current and all incoming mails!
- oldgal, on 07/19/2008, -1/+3I have never had GMail hang my hole system for 10 minutes. Also, I can get rid of GMail with no problem. To get rid of Outlook, I have to get rid of Office Suite - which I would happily do except for some proprietary stuff I get sent occasionally.
- jakem1, on 07/20/2008, -0/+2You can buy Outlook as a separate product if you really don't want Office. I've also never had Outlook hang my system. As far as I'm concerned it's just a great application and with Exchange it's pretty perfect. Outlook plus Exchange over HTTP/RPC makes a brilliant mobile solution.
- Laminarcissus, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2Huh?
- dig1x, on 07/19/2008, -2/+4What a ridiculous article. Lifehacker, you're letting your fanboy show.
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