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- imnotquitesure, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Joomla is a great Open Source CMS. Looking forward to 1.5.
- ClassicJBC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Not extensible? Last I checked there was a fairly large developer community around both Mambo and Joomla creating new components, modules, etc.
As for Drupal, I'm not a programmer, and so its learning curve is well beyond me. Joomla/Mambo, on the other hand, has most of the features I need in an easy to understand, easy to install package. - tdkyo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12-texpundit
Most of the developers for Mambo moved off to Joomla when the "opensource" incident happened. I don't get why you get the notion of a "fractured" community. - sremick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9The title is inaccurate. Oct 12th is the release of the BETA of Joomla 1.5, not final. Although the description clears this up, that's no excuse for a misleading/incorrect title.
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"Ok not really, it costs money, but I got you to click on it... go to this site anyway..." - duzins, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10How can you not love Joomla? I found it when I first installed SMF(forum) and the dev community kept talking about a Joomla bridge. Now I have SMF packaged inside of a Joomla shell with integrated databases and life is so much easier.
I can't believe how easy the whole process was (and I'm only 1/4 geek on my father's side). - vermin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Well in my mind Drupal and Joomla serve different functions. Joomla is great if you want an easy way to set up a website and throw on a template and have things 'just work' - great if you don't have much knowledge. Drupal on the other hand is more of a web development framework, it allows much more flexibility, reliability and scalability at the sacrafice of being slightly harder to learn.
That said I know Drupal is working on its deficiencies, such as eas-of-use and UI work. Likewise Joomla's 1.5 update is set to improve on its deficiencies as well, such as its attrociously hacked codebase (1.5 is all new code from the ground up), and I believe validation for its code generation as well as content caching (something that's been in Drupal forever).
A Drupal 5.0 vs Joomla 1.5 (once they both come out) would be an interesting compairison - troydoogle7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7correct they used joomla.
this project was due in February, so I hope it was worth the wait.. Release it when its done! - fatsobob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Excellent, I am gonna have to tell my friend who just rebuilt his site using joomla.
- tdkyo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I guess you lived under a rock or didn't realize many of the websites you've visited used Joomla or better-yet "Content Management System". Don't care? Move on.
- fradav4, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Nobody? Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean nobody has. With all the support and extensions out there, I'd have to say it's one of the more popular Open Source CMSs out there.
- Bishoco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I was under the impression that Wordpress is mainly blogging software. Is it more flexible than that? Joomla is a CMS for more than just blogs. Correct me if I'm wrong.
- crackhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6We're using Joomla now because it's an easy setup on Dreamhost. I tried to install an "access control list" component (JACLPlus) because Joomla is inexplicably missing the ability to restrict content access by anything other than it's built-in user groups, and the install completely fried the site. I managed to recover somewhat by manually recreating the necessary MySQL table, but we still can't login to the administration section. Ugh.
I hope v1.5 will add this basic feature so I won't have to deal with installing crappy components to add obviously-lacking functionality. - gharding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Finally! I can't imagine they lasted so long without native caching. I'm pretty sure I ran one of the largest Joomla/Mambo sites on the web (millions of hits a day & over 10,000 articles), and just the complete lack of awareness of sites this big made me switch from Joomla to something that could handle the load (and run load-balanced properly!)
But I've been keeping my eye out for a new major version, and hopefully they'll have addressed so many of these issues (and hopefully are working in a better MVC fashion now!)
I've been out of the loop for a while now, but what I always wanted to see from Joomla were things like an abstracted database, better MVC architecture, and a usable API. Once that happens, I'll be able to pick up Joomla again for personal projects. Hopefuly these are things being readied for 1.5. - DeanMarshall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Looking forward to Joomla 1.5 and then the new features that it will allow to be added in later versions. Go Joomla!
- nessumsara, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It's finally here. I have high hopes for the new version. The success of the migration path from 1.0.x to 1.5 will be a key factor in continued success.
- troydoogle7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6no worries there will be an upgrade path.. not a simple one, but there will be one none the less!
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I had a completely table-less design. It can be kind of a pain in the ass, and you better know PHP, but it can be done. It's probably easier with Drupal, just because they use an actual templating system.
- jsams81, on 06/26/2009, -1/+5i hate joomla as it is now. the templating in joomla is horrible compared to others like wordpress, textpattern, expression engine...
i hope they fix it in the new version - Sven2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Anyone knows how well Joomla gets along with css based layouts (no tables!) ? And how it does compare to Drupal in that area?
- nirvdrum, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Thanks, imnotquitesure. It would have been nice if that had been posted in the story itself. Between title and post, "Joomla!" is written five times without a clue as to what it is . . .
- dkarlson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@sven2000
Not sure about Drupal -- but Joomla is tough to get to an all CSS setup. It requires hacking an internal class. I've always shied away from that because I don't like having to merge/diff whenever a patch is made available. 1.5 should improve on the CMS' ability to create standards-based, compliant, semantic websites. - Mutaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3-gharding, what is your site, and what are you using?
- Mutaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I would like to know the advantages and the disadvantages of Joomla vs. Drupal and WordPress..I use Joomla a lot and love it, I find extensive support and great third party extensions.. would like to know where Drupal stand comparing to Joomla…reliability, support, extensions, etc.
- ClayRobeson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4In regards to the Joomla! vs Drupal debate, my housemate is one of the newer core brains on the Drupal project, and I've been using Joomla! since it was just wee Mambo 1.something.
We both agree that each system is better suited to different types of projects. There are things that I would TOTALLY do in Drupal instead of Joomla! (news focused community response sites) but then there are things that I've done in Joomla! specifically because it's MUCH simpler on the back end, so that I can hand off a designed site to the end user and not have to answer phone calls every 20 minutes about how to do something. (Although Drupal *IS* working on their back end interface, which is good to know).
Total personal preference is for Joomla! of course, but that's because it's what I'm used to. - jackdaw7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=joomla&btnG=Google+Search
- 32bitwonder, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6One issue I've noticed with Joomla thus far has been the apparent lack of a good variety of quality open source themes/templates. With the majority of available themes/templates being commercial, the overall Joomla project inherits more of a commercial 'feel' than does WordPress (as an example).
I'm not claiming that there aren't good open source templates available for Joomla, or that anyone is any way prevented from creating their own. I'm simply stating that as a casual observer, my first impression of Joomla was in part based on its surrounding culture, which includes a good deal of commercial themes. - gharding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3dailyfx.com and we migrated from Joomla/Mambo to OpenCMS (FOSS using Java and Oracle).
- rax262, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I totally agree, Joomla! is great for beginners and folks who just want a site up that looks great and is easy to post content to. Does that make it an inferior CMS, no. My one beef with Drupal is that it does have quite a learning curve and to be honest doesn't look that great by default. Now you can do a lot with it, which is the point I guess. Though I found it difficult to extend in the beginning. (and this comes from someone who used/modified PostNuke sites for years).
- zbilly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2there is an article on joomla.org about porting mambo to jooml as well
- haaris, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Joomla! Joomla! Joomla!
- bobthebob01, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5i don't agree with texpundit, this completely wrong.
"get out of your cave my friend, and open your mind, there are other things in the world than drupal!!!"
before using joomla! i tried drupal and it was so not intuitive and took me a while to get somewhere, but it took me no time with joomla! and the people on the forum were so helpful and nice. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11"How can you not love Joomla?"
Easy. It's not easily extensible. The online community is fractured now that it split off from the original Mambo (which wasn't all that great, either) which means support has gone downhill. The admin interface is klunky. I can go on and on.
Personally, I use Drupal (for large sites) and Wordpress (for small sites) almost exclusively. Both have massive community support, constant innovation, are massively extensible and customizable and are much easier to theme. - bobthebob01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2joomla! is do easy to install and set up. expecially for newbies and non-geek. it's a breeze and the community is pretty big and helpful.
Go Joomla! - raeldc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I prefer Joomla because of its active community. The developers are also very active in developing it and the community is very helpful with each other. That's where the spirit of OpenSource is. I'm not sure how it is with the Mambo community right now. The last time I checked, the development is slow, and the community seems partisan(They banned many references to Joomla in the mambo forums, and they banned the original developers).
- joomlaguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well, to be fair the title on the actual site DOES say beta. The original digger left it off...
- joomlaguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1www.compassdesigns.net/joomla-blog/joomla-reviews/why-you-want-to-use-joomla-instead-of-wordpress.html
- leandono, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah! Joomla rules!
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http://www.yemekpastatarifleri.com - r0tt3n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A year ago, with the help of www.cmsmatrix.com, I spent several months researching the best open-source CMS to use for building e-commerce sites, and Joomla was my choice for a multitude of reasons already mentioned here. For the record, the e-commerce component add-on for Joomla that most use is called www.virtuemart.com. Version 1.0 of Joomla had a lot of very nice features, but desperately needed a top-down rebuilding, and 1.5 is exactly what the doctor ordered. I have been anxiously awaiting the release of 1.5 ever since it was stated it would be released by the end of the month back in april ( http://www.joomla.org/content/view/1102/74/ ). Hopefully this deadline won't go whizzing by like the last one did.
- skyjuice, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6lol vote for joomla
- ccdog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You should read the article. The first beta release will be October 12. The release in April never happened.
- cuemkid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I don't know why I fall in love with joomla for the first time when my friend tell me about CMS.. But it's OK, cause I just want to be famous here by say something..
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http://www.onboom.com/ , http://www.duc-anh.com , http://www.download.onboom.com , http://www.onboom.com/downloads/ - ccdog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Joomla.org does over 2TB of traffic monthly. Is your site larger than that?
- omsetbuset, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't know why I fall in love with joomla for the first time when my friend tell me about CMS.. But it's OK, cause I just want to be famous here by say something..
Thanks for Joomla
and of course for all of you who read this.. - OwdenBowden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just wanted to that you Raeldc and Zbilly for the help. I guess I could always run one site with Mambo and another with Joomla and see.
- kureselisinma, on 12/24/2007, -0/+0http://www.kuresel-isinma.org http://www.m-s-n.org http://www.biddinglinkdirectory.net
- Cowboy1015, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Nobody's ever heard of?...maybe you. Have you heard of CMS?
- FBMGriever, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Well its October 12 and I dont see anything...
- CoastalEddy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+01.5.0-beta is now available.
See http://developer.joomla.org/sf/go/projects.joomla/frs -
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