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- Jorlock, on 09/05/2008, -3/+43I love Big Brother, I love big Brother, I love Big brother... Big Brother is watching me ( I'm using Chrome)
- infowar, on 09/05/2008, -6/+33We will all regret pumping Google 20 years from now. Let me be the first to say it.
- urbanc, on 09/05/2008, -8/+35What do you mean is google turning into big brother - it already has!
- bonjourmr, on 09/06/2008, -3/+28Would be funny if Google was government owned from the beginning...
- leodavinci, on 09/05/2008, -11/+29Let's get one thing straight, Google doesn't have guns. Once they start arming themselves, we can
start worrying about them, but until then let's start worrying about the Federal Government. They have guns, they have FISA, they can do things Google can't. And they can throw you in prison. Or shoot you.
It is sad, but more American citizens are probably worried about their privacy from Google than their privacy from their own government. Remember kids, you don't have to use any of Google's services. You can't stop a warrantless wiretap just by going to a different website. - Meekus, on 09/06/2008, -0/+10And what if government then somehow gains access to Google like our government did with our telcos?
- Erenthia, on 09/06/2008, -5/+14Article title should really be:
Old Media: Since we can't compete, can we at least *scare* you away from our competitor? - pig13, on 09/05/2008, -1/+10I think the argument is that google would be enabling the government with their information mining.
- upick, on 09/05/2008, -5/+13Google is big brother... from your emails to the streets to your web data... I can't stand it but yet I'm already in the google log books... o well can't do much about that
- Theli, on 09/06/2008, -2/+10A few thoughts.
1. The only reason Google would have more information on you than say Yahoo!, is that you use Google services more than Yahoo! services. If everyone were using Yahoo search, then Yahoo! would have more information.
2. Enter X into a search box and the company hosting the search engine receives and stores X. All information is willingly provided by you, the user.
3. One possible reason why it may look like Google has more information on you that any other service provider, is that they actually know how to use it.
4. It may be a good idea to spread your searches around over different search engines if you are worried about one company having too much information, but in the end if you don't want information stored about you on the web, then don't submit it.
5. I think Google should be more clear about exactly what information they are storing and how they are using it. It would at least give people less to talk about.
6. People who have not actually read 1984, should never be allowed to make references to Big Brother (unless they are talking about that awful "reality" show).
7. If you had read the book, you would understand that Google would make a pretty inefficient Big Brother. If they actively sought to deprive you of information, I could see the reference. But knowing what you willingly put into a search box (sent to them) doesn't cut it. - TINZUSA, on 09/06/2008, -1/+9I used to be a big Google fan, but I'm losing faith. In fact, just about every Corporation I deal with these days wants to violate my human rights. I feel like I am just a profit tool, a cash cow, just another pawn in a game of finance. I now see the value in becoming a mountain hermit.
- Duskraven, on 09/06/2008, -5/+14Fight the power, stay with firefox
- buddyw, on 09/06/2008, -0/+7Under the spreading chestnut tree/I sold you and you sold me:/There lie they, and here lie we/Under the spreading chestnut tree.
- vagabondgr, on 09/06/2008, -1/+8I totally agree, and you're not the first to say it.
- zdiggler, on 09/06/2008, -2/+9I'm starting to get sick of Google!
Google this Google that ! - Karai, on 09/06/2008, -3/+11PROTIP: Chrome is Open Source. This means that if you are scared of what might be in the code, you can have a look for yourself and remove anything you don't like and recompile it.
1) Create an open source web browser
2) fill it with things people would complain about
3) .....wait, what?
Be smarter, please. - Vodd9, on 09/06/2008, -2/+8No word about Google's advertising business? What if this conspiracy theroy about them wanting to dominate the world turned out to be total *****? Maybe all they care about is to give the best targeted ads possible to the user itself because it's their biggest source of revenue. Put on your thinfoil hat.
- dcrad, on 09/06/2008, -1/+7Just think if Google attended the Bilderberg meeting this year........ oh thats right they did....
were all screwed. - diabolicedict, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6How come Chrome license is BSD, which requires distribution of both the binary and source codes, has a binary Term Of Service (section 10.2) which prohibits the binary from being reverse engineered?
Call me crazy but i think that prohibition is counter-intuitive, if one is to expect that the binaries are compiled from the same source codes.
The Chrome license can be found here, http://code.google.com/chromium/terms.html
A separate Terms of Service for the binary a.k.a. executable can be found, http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/eula_text.htm ... - GRTWHT, on 09/06/2008, -0/+5That would require assuming that they haven't already.
- bradspangler, on 09/05/2008, -10/+14It's publicly available information (reported by reliable mainstream media sources) that the US government is engaging in unfathomably huge scale wiretapping. While I don't idolize Google or any other capitalist business, it should be noted that Google is less heavily armed than the federal government, so there ought to be some sense of threat proportionality to be gleaned from that. I mean, WTF? Big Brother is HERE, man, and you turkeys want to go acting all concerned and ***** about freakin' Google??? Wake the ***** up, people!
- svivian, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4Also remember, Google is a company based on software and algorithms. It's not a person looking at your data.
- drmitchell, on 09/06/2008, -1/+5Regardless of whether or not Google is (or is turning into) "BIg Brother," this is a lousy article. The author uses scare tactics rather than specific points to support his argument. The one exception might be when he talks about Google China. But even then, all he says is "Then there is Google's odd acquiescence to the demands by authoritarian regimes around the world, especially China, to censor its search operations in those countries." But then goes on to say "These actions, inexplicable at the time, only become clear when one assumes that Google's real business now is not providing a service to its users, but in owning the world's data."
How, exactly, does Google "own the world's data"? Especially in a place like an "authoritarian regime"? Is the author really saying that Google owns China's data? I find that to be ridiculously hard to believe and this whole article strikes me as little more than an alarmist, paranoid conspiracy theory.
That said, Google does have access to an alarming amount of the world's information and our, individual personal data. But "access" is a far cry from "ownership" or "control." So the real question, the real concern, is what is Google *doing* with that access and is it turning this information over to the folks who have the real control and power (ahem, FISA anyone?).
Finally, and this is the most important point that we need to remind ourselves day in and day out -- Google only has access to information that you, personally and individually give them. Let me repeat: Google only has the information YOU WILLINGLY GIVE THEM. If you don't want Google to have your "data," you can keep them from having access to it.
The real problem with scare tactics and paranoid conspiracy theories is that they assume we have no power or control over our lives. Which is a lie. A dangerous lie. - silfiriel, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4no, in order to turn into the big brother we need to feel suppressed and afraid, unfriendly. instead we don't feel that at all. we feel free to do what ever we like and don't give a sh*t if someone knows about it.
- God, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4How do you figure?
- doublejay1973, on 09/06/2008, -2/+5very old news., google has so much knowledge it is frightening. If other companies understood how much knowledge google had abuot them, they would move en mass to address it.,
- compressedaudio, on 09/06/2008, -1/+4Every company who's services you have ever used can have information about you. Anyone who has ever sold you anything. They can use this information to target you better next time.
So Google has a few more details about you than other companies do.
The fact it has so many users makes your information barely significant.
The data protection act is there to keep your information safe.
There is nothing to worry about as long as they don't give personal information away to third parties. It would not benefit them to do so. - Nouman6, on 09/06/2008, -1/+4I guess they missed that one second scene in Terminator where google replaced their sign with SkyNet
- atdigg, on 09/06/2008, -5/+8Turning?
- rodrigo74, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2All three of you?
- inactive, on 09/06/2008, -3/+5The minute they took view counts off of Google Video, the answer became yes.
- xeemo, on 09/07/2008, -0/+2Obey your master
- inactive, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2every time you use chrome god kills a pedophile. Its a deal google struck in lieu of buying out the vatican.
- Mpwns, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2just being on the internet throws your privacy out the window. since for the last few years the internet has become the social place to hang out. hell there was a time when i was even a mmo cleberty of sorts with 2 differnt games. but when i loged off i went back to being a nobody, so people tend to like the internet for that we can be somebody with doing almost nothing. theres so much free info out there, one of my co workers did not think so so i told her ill come back with info on her the next day, i blew her mind i knew stuff about her that she never told anyone at work about, and all i used was her name on a few sites. if you know how to look, the info is out there and its scary what you can find out.
- uberkuh, on 09/07/2008, -0/+2Isn't Facebook supposedly the one with CIA ties?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5 ... - Spoomeister, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1It's a joke, son! A joke!
- thebigmatay, on 09/07/2008, -0/+1Those sneaky bastards.
- thellamafarm, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1the only thing that matters is that were happy right?
- aadsfasdf, on 09/07/2008, -0/+1Also, big brother uses coercion and stuff. If Google were trying to force anything, say to use their products/services, they wouldn't be encouraging open source and open standards.
- Eisim, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1i call bs. usage of google is optional. use some other product/search if you're so concerned. this doesn't have jack ***** to do with big brother. government surveillance and that ***** is more concerning. it's not optional.
kill me. - thebigmatay, on 09/07/2008, -0/+1That's what you think.
- Eisim, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1jesus h christ man. what island are you on?
- linuxpenguin, on 09/07/2008, -0/+1Depending on who you listen to. . . Google has been "turning into Big Brother" for about 9-10 years.
If you ask me, no, Google is not turning into Big Brother. Google takes information you volunteer to them via the use of their products. Big Brother just takes it. - H4adF1sh, on 09/06/2008, -1/+2I agree, to some extent. Government wiretapping and its massive expansion of the government spy network.. Including satellites that can locate people by their shadows. Big Brother is already here.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't worry about Google. In the modern world, corporations have become so massive as to be nearly as dangerous as governments themselves.
Luckily, democracy still exists on the internet. Hoorah for Digg! - noumuon, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1i'm fairly certain many people who have read the book still don't understand what's going on in that book. one thing that rather irks me is people drawing analogous references from some company to Big Brother from 1984 when they're not even close.
- ianthepetrock, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1Looks like it just searches Yahoo and Google to me.
- Katana314, on 09/06/2008, -2/+3The only difference to me is that Google doesn't actually DO too much with the info, besides basic advertising recommendation.
- oldgal, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1It sounds like most of the folks commenting are exactly as you describe.
- reaperhatch, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agikZek3hSo
- HomieG6189, on 09/07/2008, -0/+1I mean, I guess I could go to all the work of using Tor on my searches, spreading them out among engines, and delete my gmail account. But really, do they really care about all the kinky porno movies I put in that little box and click search?
I hope not.. -
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