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- motostamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21From the article:
"you'll need to obtain a partitioning software package"
Wrong...Just boot from the Vista disc and you can partition and format from there. At least, that's what I did. - wormhole, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24If you've never used Gparted, I highly recommend it. For making complex partitioning schemes, I'll never use fdisk again - especially for mixed windows/linux drives.
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Hm, I don't think an article is necessary for this since there's really nothing special you need to do to get it to dual boot. Just install to a diff partition and you're done.
Obviously if you're dual booting, you have knowledge about what you're doing, and thus know ... everything that's explained here. - scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9If you want a no-risk way to do it, put in a second hard disk, and switch between hard disks using the BIOS setup boot sequence.
Here endeth my article. - CraigB12, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Not everyone on Digg is an expert your highness. Novices don't have your uber 1337 h4x0r pwn463 5
- wisedude, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Wow the one thing I don't know how to do, create a partition without erasing my current hard drive really isn't explained at all....
- formatreinstall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I didn't read this in the article, so I thought I would point it out:
If you dual boot XP and Vista, whenever you boot into XP you will delete your Vista restore points, and vice versa. This also means if you are using Vista Ultimate or Home Premium your Previous Versions function (where you can revert edited files like docs and pictures to pre-edited versions) will also be wiped on each reboot. It has something to do with the way Volume Shadow Copy was implemented in XP. - CraigB12, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8If you're using PartitionMagic or GParted all you have to do is choose the main partition and split it up accordingly. I would recommend defragging before you do this though, so the partitions are cleaner.
- DanNZN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah, dual booting with Vista is insanely easy. When I booted from the CD I had it install to the D drive. When I started my box I had the option of Vista or "an older version of Windows". Vista does not use the boot.ini that XP uses. When I wiped Vista (RC2 version) I just made sure I edited whatever the new boot.ini was to only have XP as an option before killing Vista coz the program to edit it is in the Vista's windows folder. No problems.
- HeatVision, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's also nice to see the screens and options that Vista gives you before taking the plunge.
- coditza, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Vista's bootloeader can deal with older version of windows.
- MrSarcasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Commodore 64 FTW!
- andnever, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6this is just stupid, yes there is a built in partition manager, there is also a built in boot manager you dont need to do anything except put the ***** disk in and go...people and their stupid blogs
- undersky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i thought u can install vista upgrade on a clean system by the walkaround method? (install vista twice while not entering the code the first time)
that should get around right? - adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3LOAD "*",8
or
LOAD "Vista.exe",8
Ahhh the good ol'days. - formatreinstall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3boot from the vista dvd and open a command prompt
if you want vista gone and just XP, you need to restore XP's files to the MBR. run:
bootsect.exe /nt52 c:
then restart. If XP does not load, boot from an XP CD, go to Recovery Console, and run:
fixboot.exe
Check http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529/en-us for more details. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Exactly.
- CraigB12, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Motostamp is right. The vista install GUI makes it really easy without having to install a third party partitioner.
That being said, switching from XP to vista doesn't really need this. All you have to do is make sure you've got good enough hardware and that all the hardware you have has vista compatible drivers. Vista is slightly different as far as where things are placed in the admin tools and such, but nothing a veteran XP user can't handle. - roberto_deneero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They made a movie about this topic, it's called Dumb and Dumber.
- arenas46, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been doing this since RC1
- adarshj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why don't you just install VMware Workstation on your existing machine and install Windows Vista on your Workstation? That's a much safer, simpler and smarter thing to do when you're experimenting with Operating Systems. You also get to experiment with all the features of the new operating system, just like you would on your actual machine!
- dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Is there a way to stop it installing the boot-manager over something like GRUB or LILO? I kind of doubt it however, Windows has always seemed to "need" it's own Boot-manager to be installed.
Also, using a partitioning program (GParted, say), would copying a partition, then doing an upgrade on the duplicated-partition work? (So you can have your XP installation, and the same one, but upgraded to Vista). Don't see why it shouldn't work, but I'd be interested to know if anyone's tried it..
- Ben - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Man, if you think we are all gurus you don't read many of our comments. And if you think we're all gurus, then you are definitely not a guru.
- musntSurfatWork, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2'Procedure?' Dual Boot with XP? All I had to do was insert the 'oem' Vista disc, install (NOT ON MY XP DRIVE THANKS VERY MUCH), click next until done, and the setup was already made. I get the dual boot screen selection already. No ***** to earn there Sherlocks.
- PhilH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2you forgot "Profit."
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thats dumb, sure the uber geek might like to see something like that but for MS only folks why make it more complicated then it needs to be? Keep it simple.
- cat5, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Gparted is free/OpenSource... here is a LiveCD to assist.
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php - adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3And XP was worse then 98. Whats your point?
- intekra, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@undersky
GParted is free, and VERY powerful. http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ - TiKoZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i'v already done that no biggie.. but i can't figure out how 2 delete vista (which i already formated its partation) from the boot menu.. any advices?
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You don't have to mess with the bios. I just put Vista on the boot drive and XP on the second one and vista still found it during install and gave me the selection screen when the PC boots. It really was super easy. I'm wondering what everyone else is doing to make it so hard.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2TIP:
if you reinstall xp after u intsall vista then its boot menu disapears, to fix it just boot from the vista dvd and select repair startup, then you got your boot menu back yay. and to customize it get vistabootpro or easybcd
you can aslo mount you vista iso in deamon tools and install it on another partition from within xp - sunamiebob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1good to know
- jutendouji, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That's useless, sorry and thanks for trying.
- psdiao, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.apcstart.com/node/5162/
This one's also good, it includes a Linux option as well. - SquisherX, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5How to partition using a GUI under windows XP
1. Right click my computer
2. Select Manage
3. Select Disk Management under the Storage Heading
Looks just like any other Partitioning Program. - cquinnd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1False, it does not remove the XP license, it just emphasizes the same restriction on transfering the XP install to another system that has always been there before. AFAIK, you can still use the upgrade disk to install in a dual boot configuration.
- DBrez8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yea this is exactly what I did to set up dual Vista/XP. I didn't know about the Ctrl+Break to change the default start up OS. That is definitely useful cause I want it in XP most of the time as hardly any of my apps work with vista still.
- srudes2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1lol yeah same here
- kelek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Too bad you can't dual boot Vista and XP if you have the Vista Upgrade, given that it removes the XP license if it's used as an upgrade to Vista.
- jutendouji, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anyone know of how to install some sort of Boot Manager when I have XP on my Primary Master and Vista on my Secondary Master? Vista doesn't see the XP install and thus doesn't show the Boot options to boot into XP, which means I have to get into the BIOS and swap the Boot Order whenever I want to change from XP to Vista and viceversa... Any advice?
- jutendouji, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No takers?
- formatreinstall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529/en-us
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Excited. Yeah, thats the word I'd use.
(Insert your own 'NOT' here) - joltjake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yea, Ive been dual booting with xp and vista sense beta 2, and now with the ultimate edition, it isn't really anything new.
- FlyboyP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is the correct answer.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1his point i beleave is that unless you have a machine that can handle vista... you should stick with windows xp.
as for my own point, vista is as much as a resource hog than xp is, if you turn on all the eye candy for vista on a 4 year old computer... then thats when you start running into problems
soo... theres not really a point in getting vista if you're not gonna be able to use it to its full potential... its basically like having windows xp with a different skin.. however --- if you have a powerfull system that scores a 5.0 on the vista scale.... then why not get vista? - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ooohhh ramble you burned that guy! Man you must get all the chicks!
- citizenDAK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Please provide links that describe this?
(My google-fu is weak today, I've been searching for info about what happens when you mount a Vista NTFS partition in an older Windows, then in Vista again. I KNOW I've read somewhere that Vista is smart enough to protect from data corruption by removing (something, I think it was the Previous Versions / shadow copy) the data that's NOT understood by older Windows. Now I can't find it, please help with links?)
> "If you dual boot XP and Vista, whenever you boot into XP you will delete your Vista restore points, and vice versa..." - citizenDAK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0linkback: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS#Interoperability
[quote]
"There are technical considerations for mounting newer NTFS volumes in older versions of Windows, too. This affects dual-booting, and external portable hard drives. For example, "Previous Versions" (a.k.a. shadow copies) will be lost because the older OS doesn't understand how to keep the new feature's data updated. (SEE THESE LINKS for more info: [1 How NTFS Works - CLEANUP OPERATION], and [2 Restore Points Deleted - looking for better links].)"
1 = http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/8cc5891d-bf8e-4164-862d-dac5418c59481033.mspx?mfr=true
2 = (this thread) http://www.digg.com/software/Install_Windows_Vista_in_a_dual_boot_configuration_along_with_Windows_XP#c5162189 [/quote] -
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