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- EXreaction, on 10/12/2007, -6/+44Stop bitching about the DRM support added in Vista. Every time I see someone complaining I just shake my head because you obviously didn't give a ***** enough to look into it for yourself and just jumped on the bash MS bandwagon.
The DRM support added in Vista is to support DRM used in things like BR-D and HD-DVD so the movies can play at all. If Vista didn't natively have support for it, you would need to buy something that had support for it to play the movies in their true format. Otherwise you would have to play any movies at standard definition(if the disks even support that).
This has nothing to do with Windows and everything to do with BR-D and HD-DVD.
Read this f'in article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Windows_Vista#Digital_Rights_Management - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+40Aside from anti-MS slander... it was interesting to note how SuperFetch works. This is the reason so little free memory is available after boot and why some (fanboys) suggest Vista is a memory "hog."
Unless you understand how it works, keep your fanboy comments up your butt. - polymorphist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+36It would be odd for DRM to be in the _kernel_ of any OS, even in Vista
- RedLion, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26"the guy who clashed swords with Joanna Rutkowska"
you really have a deep knowledge of this guy ;)
This guy is the one that discovered the Sony Rootkit and he has written many famous windows utilities like filemon, regmon and process explorer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Russinovich - ProximaC, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25Windows Mistake Edition.
- mattUSA, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Well... excluding Windows ME of course.
- mattUSA, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Vista has a pretty large footprint. People claim it's a memory hog because they need the memory to run other programs, ones not included with Vista. They're coming from an mindset of "XP uses this much so I can run my programs - why does vista take up so much more when running the same programs?" The average user doesn't give a rip about the bells and whistles that Vista loads into memory - they simply want a stable OS that runs their programs.
That said, I've used several legal versions (home, ultimate, business, etc) of Vista on several different machines(512MB, 1Gig, 2Gig), and it does a decent job of footprinting it's memory usage in accordance with the amount of system ram. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19MS acquired sysinternals last year
- RedLion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18"I like knowing exactly where every file is, not having my OS sort everything into premade folders already."
what are you talking about? the directory structure is almost the same: "Documents and Settings" has been renamed to "Users" and "ProgramData" has been moved to the drive's root but except for that there hasn't been any other significant change.
You can also configure the search to index the entire C: drive, including hidden and system files, so you won't miss anything. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17why people blame MSFT for the video issues dumbfound me...Nvidia is dragging their heels here...I installed Vista Home Premium and love it - speed is good - readyboost is cool - all of the criticism about the OS was made when 98 and XP came out...change is good people
- Vlatro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Ahh, the old Vista memory hog debate. Yes it has a much larger memory footprint. However, I've gotten as much as a 30% increase in program load times, and run time speeds seem to be unaffected (at least on my machine). Performance in general has been much better under Vista than under XP. Stability and driver support is another issue. It needs one hell of a service pack before I make the move officially, but don't knock it based on performance, it's done remarkably well there.
- SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18What colour is the sky in your world?
- WilyOne, on 10/12/2007, -9/+24"Every release of Windows improves scalability and performance..." Um, no. Ever hear of Windows ME?
- Rethcir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16People aren't giving Vista enough credit. I bought a $400 dell with Home Basic and so far it has been really impressive. All I really had to do was get rid of UAC and the usual dell crapware. Granted, something like Home Basic probably should have come out 2 years ago. But ***** happens. Vista seems to "Just Work" pretty well. (granted I haven't been gaming much)
- grubbydigger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Anything that's written by Mark Russinovich is a great read, even if you're a fanboy of other operating systems.
- SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16The real reason "Vista's not selling well" is because the figures used to cite that statement are retail box figures. It's 2007. Hardware is a cheap commodity. You can buy a Dell that'll run Aero Glass like it was born to (which it was) for under $400. When you start counting the number of PCs that are sold with Vista pre-loaded (or, more fairly, the jump in the number of new PCs sold since Vista came out; which according to a quick Google search is 173%), the "Vista's not selling well" figures suddenly don't look so convincing.
- ProximaC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15It's working pretty well for gaming for me, except the video driver issues, but they will get ironed out soon enough.
- SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16No, it hasn't. The Linux caching system is conceptually similar to XP's prefetch; although there are vast differences in implementation (though the Linux implementation is certainly in many ways superior to XP's; e.g. it doesn't suffer from what TFA calls "after lunch syndrome").
- jazzyjayx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14There's two reasons that article uses sysinternals
1) The author of that article is Mark Russinovich, the guy who wrote SysInternals.
2) Microsoft bought SysInternals and hired Russinovich. - SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14@Rethcir: The Dell crapware yes, but why get rid of UAC? The real use of the kind of Unix-like multi-user secuity model that was one of the big advantages of the NT kernel over the 9x codebase in Vista was, I thought, one of the main reasons to upgrade.
- brasso, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I don't think anyone wants to hear more about that… personally I would also like to know what good things have happened to Windows because Vista is probably the OS I will run sooner or later.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12If you're hell-bent on not wanting UAC, don't turn it off, set it to automatically accept every dialog box. It's not much safer than having it off, but things like IE will run in lower privledge mode, which is safer:
http://brandonlive.com/2007/02/06/more-secure-way-to-disable-uac-without-losing-protected-mode-ie/ - Vlatro, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19We're not supposed to talk about Windows ME. Like many victims of violent rape or the holocaust, IT professionals have suppressed those terrible memories for the sake of their own mental well-being. I fear any further talk of this subject may trigger a psychotic break amongst hundreds of innocent digg users, contributing to mass hysteria. Please let those painful memories die, so we can continue on with the remainder of our lives.
- DigitalDud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12UAC isn't about protecting the user, its about letting you run applications with low-rights to prevent exploits while still being able to easily change settings and install things.
- EXreaction, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13It is obvious consumers don't understand what is new in Vista. Ask 100 average people, I would say 99 of them have no idea of what "new network stack" even means, while 25 or more of them can hardly turn a pc on, let alone know "what a Vista is".
The reason it is not selling majorly is like any previous release. Low initial driver support and low initial application support, but like always it will steadily increase until everything will be written for Vista first, then XP second. And don't forget that someone can still get a copy of Vista RC2 off the net for free(I still have 2 keys for it) and use that for a few months until it expires. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Marked as MORON.
- RedLion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10George Ou made an interesting post about the DRM in Vista: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=429 . It is not much detailed but at least it is more attendible a certain "Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection" made by a person that admitted that he didn't even try the OS
- DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11You first.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11@Redlion - didn't say I did know him well but thanks for adding some relavent information to the discussion.
- teamparadox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9and with a $400 Dell you wont be gaming...ever
- Darcy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8MS employees have been using sysinternals tools for years, long before they acquired them.
- qbyte, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I'm so sick of hearing people who want to sound smart say stupid things like "Windows Vista is just Windows XP with a prettier interface that they stole from Apple". While the latter may be somewhat true, Vista is far more than just a face lift for Windows XP.
If you are one of those people that say such things, please read the article before posting (in your own best interest).
I know that it's fun to bash Microsoft and say things that make it clear that you are not a Microsoft fanboy. It's ok to not be in love with Microsoft. I don't care much for them, either. If you are going to bash them or their product, however, you can make great strides at not looking like a fool if you do so accurately.
Vista has grown on me and these new performance, reliability, and security features are very welcome.
One last note, if you disable UAC, you deserve any virus or spyware that infects your system. Just stick with XP if you don't care to run a more secure OS. - MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6If an executable is requiring a UAC prompt, then typically it's doing something wrong. Most programs do NOT need admin privledges. This is something that will improve with time, as developers make better programs that live in a world where they don't need admin rights.
- EXreaction, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10You know, when you smoke that kind of stuff you start to believe it is in everything.
Get it out of your mouth and mind, then move on from your addiction. - SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6What's your spec?
- Oldschoolhack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I'll refrain from making any judgement on Vista until I've messed with it more. I'm sure people will quit complaining about Vista once computer speeds raise, and the gaming becomes elite with amazing graphics.
Anything new is always up for scrutiny. Even though I'm a Linux fan, that doesn't stop me from wishing the best for Vista -- I hope the games it brings are mindblowing. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5mattusa & vlatro:
Thanks for the 2 useful and honest replies. I have only run an RC of Vista because I primarily use Linux & Mac OS X these days (with some XP on the side), but I have family members asking me about Vista and there is a so much BS about it that it's hard to know what to tell them all the time. I'm interested in real facts from users so I can recommend to upgrade or not, instead of telling them what I know and letting them make the conclusion.
And it's nice to see things not turn into a lame OS flame war here on digg. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's a Windows world, and us Linux & Mac users have to play in the sandbox with all of the Windows users. Hell, we have to use Windows for something every now and then and we all know it. I hope Vista is great, because I know that eventually I will be using it like I use XP now. Most of us used Windows exclusively at one point or another. I have used Windows much longer than OS X or Gentoo, and I haven't forgotten that just because I don't use it much anymore. I understand the dislike of Windows and other MS software. I don't understand wanting them to fail. I hope MS can turn Windows into a great OS, because most Windows users are not switching to anything else no matter what, for whatever reasons.
- stevebor1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@ netsurfergeek
Um, Microsoft acquired Winternals Software, the creators of Sysinternals.
So Yahoo shouldn't use flickr? - RedHerringHack, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7They are all great features. Not new, but great. It's about time that an optimizer got their hands on windows.
- saska, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Building on what Mio says, if you are running legacy applications (especially those written in the 2000/early XP timeframe) you are getting prompted because the application developers did not bother trying to decide the least user privilege they needed to do what they wanted to do. They assumed you were an administrator and they required administrator privileges to install or run the applications. Often times the application never actually touches anything requiring those administrator privileges, but you cannot pass Go because the first check the app runs is "am I Administrator?" In Vista, if that check occurs, UAC pops up to tell you that something wants to run with Administrator privileges -- and that is EXACTLY what it is supposed to do.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've posted it above, but I feel it necessary to post again:
http://brandonlive.com/2007/02/06/more-secure-way-to-disable-uac-without-losing-protected-mode-ie/
UAC is more than just the prompts. You disable UAC the "normal" way, you kill off some pretty nice security features. This is the proper way to kill the prompts. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And why are you smiling?
- AhmedB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I will have to look at your lab exercise to find out how you got to those results. The point however is:
finer-grain locking -> higher concurrency when there's no contention for common resources.
coarse-grain locking -> lower concurrency whether the resources are shared or not, a process/task/thread locks everyone out until it's done.
If fine-grain locking yields the same/worse results than coarse-grain locking, then the algorithm needs to be revisited to relieve contention for the shared resource. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Poor jjaacckkyy is a troll and he is hungry. Don't feed the troll.
- teamparadox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8I decided to type my reply to your comment on my WinME system just to show you're wrong but i got BSOD twice on boot, and the 3rd time the PC caught on fire so nevermind!
- cquinnd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No, even ME offered some improvements over the previous version.
The problem with ME was when they developed it, they put more effort into performance and features than they put into scalability (and stabilty).
I won't use ME either, but I have a friend who is quite happy using it on an older system at his house. Of course he doesn't load anything major on that system, and pretty much uses it as a guest computer. - maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Can anyone link me to Part 1?
NVM, i found the micro link in the first sentence now. - MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not IE at the very least.
- schoate09, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7OS X's mach_kernel, STOLEN from BSD is way slower than NT so whats all the bitching about. Mach has serious performance issues, especially in the server environment. Don't believe me, google it.
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