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- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Uh. Money?
- intent, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21"streaming tunes over the 'net can make your music may not sound as immediate as if it was on your local drive."
No *****, Sherlock. - brandiniman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14From Amazon's pricing page:
" * Pay only for what you use. There is no minimum fee, and no start-up cost.
* $0.15 per GB-Month of storage used.
* $0.20 per GB of data transferred. "
So if I have 52GB of music x $0.15, that's $7.80 a month for it just to sit there. To get it all there would cost me a start up uploading fee of $0.20 x52, that's $10.40. Now to listen to the music would also add to this data transferred tally... as well as filling up my iPod. Not to mention it'd take 15 days to upload it all on my 384k up pipe from Comcast. So, I think I'll just go on www.orb.com and get their software, spend the extra 8 bucks a month, and ditch Comcast for 15Mb down & 2Mb up FiOS. And I get nearly 3 times the speed downloads of what I have. Sweet. - dimer0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Sorta pricey. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just setup DAV on your own server?
- bwhite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Now .. Amazon inks a deal with the RIAA and bam, everyone is nailed for their enormous librarys that we all claim, are just copies of the CDs we have purchased.
- lidflipper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"Not sure i like the idea of Amazon (or anyone else) having easy access to all my data...."
I believe that the data can be encrypted by JungleDisk before it is sent to Amazon so you will never have "plain text" data on their server. - Charlotte_Web, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Too expensive.
He could just open a GoDaddy hosting account. The Deluxe plan is 100 GB of storage plus 1 TB of transfer monthly for $6.29/mo (on a 1 year contract) or $75.48/yr. To match that storage & transfer on Amazon's S3 service, he'd spend $15/mo for storage and $200/mo for transfer, or $2580/yr.
Hmmm... $75.48 (GoDaddy) or $2580 (Amazon). - skinfitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5...why not just setup WebDAV on your home server?
- dmoney06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5no it isn't jads.
- ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Try http://www.mp3tunes.com. They offer unlimited storage, and tons of streaming options. I have about 60GB in my storage locker right now.
If you're looking to sign up, google mp3tunes.com coupons and you can find a $20 off coupon. - SpacemanSpiff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If your house burns down you have bigger problems than losing your music collection.
- JohnBooty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Charlotte_Web: Yes, you are missing something. Most people aren't going to use 100GB storage nor 1TB of transfer nor anything remotely close to that. Obviously, yeah, at those usage levels the costs get rather prohibitive but you're not being realistic.
- achoi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3safer untill you drop it in a pool of lava. Watch out for lava.
- tuartboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3First, S3 is more than just a backup solution.
Second, what if your house burns down? - dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Eliminate the limit on my music storage capacity."
"Unless I spend a lot of time (which I don’t have) doing backups - in the event of a disaster (or drive failure), I’d lose all of my data."
"data on safe and secure servers, all across the country"
Plus most home connections upstream speeds are pathetic (Compared to download speeds), I imagine Amazon's servers have a "reasonable" connection, will be extremely reliable, and will free up your home connection, plus not everyone is smart enough/has enough time to setup up server themselves
- Ben - Charlotte_Web, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I haven't looked, but I'm sure that there's some shareware or open source solution to it out there somewhere. As someone said, you can mount it as an FTP drive, or you can upload an MP3 server to it.
If not, you can always take the $2500 you save the first year and hire a contract programmer off of craigslist to develop the software for you.
Unless I'm missing something here, it seems that Amazon is priced way out of the market. - k3n85, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3eh ... Hamachi works just fine for streaming .... I was able to stream my music from home (Wisconsin) to Kansas over a wireless connection (both sides) just fine, and was almost instant. I'll stick with this free solution :)
- RichStevenson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@charlief1975
Yep. Search for NetDrive from Novell. - Linh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Umm... doing this allows you to have one central location that is backed up and more likely to survive HDD crashes. You place the reliability in the hands of Amazon (who have the resources to spread your stuff on their server farms). It's a much simpler backup solution than trying to keep two sources in sync.
Granted, this is expensive and really relies on a decent connection (uploading 15GB for me would be painful). But to say there is no advantage of S3 at all is ignorance. You may find no advantage because of cost, but you should recognize where it fits in. - brandiniman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2sorry guys: http://www.orb.com for those who like to click
- superhobo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Mmmh.. Quite a handy little article, of course the 250GB ex harddrive is still a lot safer.
- charlief1975, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Pretty cool, is there an app that I could use to mount my FTP drive as a drive and try this?
- jads, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2the one thing to remember that the music (or whatever you use S3 for) is off-site - even if you have an external drive there is a chance it could fail, or worse, you have a break-in at home and they swipe all your stuff.
It may be pricey, but a comprimise would be mirroring your library. If you have a desktop and external hd at home, use that for your music and sync it up to S3 daily. If you also own a laptop and take it out and about, use the S3 library to listen to your music. This way you can still use that hd with your desktop at home for music and there will ne no delays and syncing your iPod won't cost you anything. - nanboya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It all comes down to data security and who you trust to be around in 1,3,5, and 10 years beyond today. Right now, out of all the options mentioned above, I'd have to gamble that Amazon will be the last man standing.
Of course, if short term goals and direct control of your data is necessary, you could do the GoDaddy solution or step up one notch to something like mediatemple (despite the issues they've been having) and have your data stored directly under your control on a distributed storage network offsite. Not sure if their servers support webdav though. - ralcocer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been using mp3tunes for around two months and it works great. Highly recommended.
- wicked9, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4in go to finder > connect to server and type in ftp://username:password@ftpserver.com
- Bentley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've started using http://mp3tunes.com/, who recently announced free unlimited storage for you MP3s. Their synchronization software can be a little unforgiving, but overall it's a really cool platform.
- Charlotte_Web, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21) I haven't looked, but I would find it very hard to believe that Amazon wouldn't have similar restrictions on hosting copyrighted material. I assume, however, that the author of the article intended the hosting of his MP3 collection to be for private use, especially since he's paying per-MB for transfer. I'm sure that Amazon and GoDaddy have better things to do than to go snooping around in people's storage areas. Like most companies, I'm sure they only respond after they receive an actual complaint.
2) No, the average person isn't going to use 1 TB of transfer a month. However, even for the paltry amount of data the site mentions (35 GB of storage plus an unspecified amount of transfer). GoDaddy still comes up cheaper. Do the math.
3) Yes, GoDaddy is overselling. Are you telling me that Amazon is offering a QoS/low ping guarantee with their service? I must have missed that on Amazon's S3 page. Besides, for $2580/year, you can buy your own server box in a colocated facility.
4) 100 GB of storage is not unrealistic. The story talks about the guy using it for iTunes music, of which he already has 35 GB. I've had as much as 70 GB of music on my hard drive. S3 is also being talked about as an online backup solution. 100 GB of backup storage is nothing; I could fill that up right now.
5) Don't like GoDaddy? Gee, there might be one or two other hosting facilities somewhere on this planet. Hmmm.... - RedRummy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@sockpuppets
Ahh, didn't see the pricing..
my bad. - faxxy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1fyi: supported formats of mp3tunes:
MP3, MP4, M4A, M4P, AAC, WMA, OGG, AIF, AIFF, MIDI - nanboya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yup, as of 10.4, FTP is still read-only for Finder-mounted FTP shares. Wish they had something like Novell' Netdrive for Mac that would force it to mount as a drive volume and not an application.
- SpacemanSpiff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I bought a used laptop hard drive on eBay a year ago and got an external USB case for it off newegg for a total cost of about $50. I just plug that into my computer at work and have full access to my entire music library without any of the quality or security issues associated with streaming music. I take it home every couple of weeks and sync it up with my desktop there so it doubles as a backup.
I don't know why anyone would go to all of the trouble of streaming music (and having to pay for it) when there are so many simpler options such as mine. - teckjunkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anyone in my situation I found a way to upload files to s3 via the web theres a great open-source Java toolkit JetS3t.
http://jets3t.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html
Preview: http://jets3t.s3.amazonaws.com/applets-jets3t-0.5.0/jets3t-uploader.html - thatsiebguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Or stream XM quality XM music from http://radio.aol.com, even has a nice little desktop app for OSX users.
S3 is nice and all, but only if you want to pay for it. Just stick the music on a home NAS and be done with it. Use SlimServer to broadcast your iTunes library: http://www.slimdevices.com/su_downloads.html. - jsully, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use Jinzora to access my music collection from anywhere with a net connection. It's good enough to stream VBR 0 over my crappy DSL connection with no lag, but it can also do on the fly transcoding among other things.
Online demo:
http://www.jinzora.com/demos/standalone/slick.php - nanboya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wasn't there a service similar to this back in the day that got taken out by the RIAA?
- ktonini, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I plan on buying an airport extreme and using its built in NAS capabilities to hook up an external drive with my iTunes Library on it.
- MiloMindrbindr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use it as well. The product is now 100% free for unlimited storage as well, so no coupons necessary anymore. Just sign up and upload/download like a mofo!
- nirav72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why not just carry a damn Ipod? Get a 80 gig if you have a large library.
- ivachen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1company banned last.fm...
- N1XUK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i do this with my Ipod 5g and just run yamipod from it on other ppls computers!
When im at home or with my laptop all my audio/video is kept on the ipod and runs from it
(do have actual librairy stored on an external HD that gets turned on for an hour 2-3 times a week) - freakyflow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ya this is old but I just googled it.
What yout wits dont realize is that amazon is not for storage its for serving, take your cheap 5$ zillion TB hosting company and have more than 30 people listen to an mp3 at once, how about 100 or 200,...goodbye website. Amazon can handle the traffic and its bandwidth price is on par with the currrent price, its roughly the same price your crap hosting company is paying though they are banking on you not using it, amazon however is banking on it being used.
That being said using it for your personal itunes is rather silly, its like buying a bulldozer to plant a flower. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I use http://seeqpod.com/music for this...
- teckjunkie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I have issues uploading to S3 using jungledisk through my proxy at work. I tried entering it into the proxy section (eg: http://proxy:8080) still no luck anyone know of an online service to upload to S3 or code I can put on a free webspace to upload files to it?
- jads, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@dmoney06
i might be missing something, but if you use 'connect to server' to connect to an FTP server using the Finder, it is read-only. Give it a try. I currently use cyberduck for FTP access. - Eccles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Does GoDaddy have any sort of virtual hard drive support (so your account looks like a hard drive), or is there a generic driver that will work with it? Mac and Windows? It seems like it's more oriented towards web site hosting, although "bits is bits" so the storage certainly could be used as a backup/remote drive solution.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you don't count hardware, hosting, bandwidth, maintenance, support in that "cheaper", sure!
- superhobo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Ah, I forgot about the lava... Damn its eyes!
- diggzoid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Sign up for last.fm (free) or only $2.00/month for a "premium" account. Then play your itunes for a while and "train" last.fm which track you like best.
(Ban any you hate) Then launch http://www.last.fm/dashboard/ from anywhere in the world and you have your own DJ anytime and can skip anything you don't like. I've got mine under control after playing about 70,000 songs.... http://www.last.fm/user/dubhead - fofusion, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Godaddy dont actually offer what they promise because like dreamhost and millions other "quality hosting companies" they are overselling big style..
Any idiot knows that.
But either way most hosts will not allow copyright material especially MP3's on their servers. Most hosts have something in their terms of service either saying no copyright mp3's or this service cannot be used for backup purposes. -
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