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- shawnblog, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13I can't understand why anyone would not use these. They are better than anything else out there.
- jjk5, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11The best part of GCal is that it can text message me reminders, and receive appointments via text message as well. Texts from GCal reminding me of things have saved me over and over.
And web-based calendar is a no-brainer. Why would you need the power of a desktop app for a simple calendar program? Accessing my calendar from any terminal in the world is a huge bonus I can't part with. - DaDiggCode, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8The only problem is G needs to make its app's available offline
- geeke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7jesus another lifehacker/gmail story on the front page and its not even thrusday yet.
- haydesigner, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8@ fkr3: "And voting me down doesn't make gmail or gcalendar or any of the million near-identical services superior to their desktop based counterparts."
Perhaps not, but it definitely lets everyone know that we think you are an idiot for making statements like that. - DyDx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Not gonna lie... like many of the above.. myself and many friends I go to school with are "Google Whores." We use it to IM (because it's cleaner and, i guess, more "streamlined" than AIM), email (amazing interface and features), collaborate on documents (Google Doc), collaborate and share information for group projects (Notebook -- relatively new)... and there's Blogspot, Google Pages (I only learned about this recently), Google Maps, Google Homepage (LOVE this one), Google Desktop... They just make good *****. No frills, effective, open APIs, easy to use. Why wouldn't I like Google? For the time being... they could go "Microsoft" on everyone.. I guess.
- nicolaihel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually, no ... with Gmail, once you've disposed of the task in an email, you just archive it. Then it's out of your inbox, but still in your archives for quick searches. No hassle of filing, but the pleasure of an empty inbox. It's not very hard -- just dispose of emails as they come in and either delete or archive.
- jumpfroggy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@nicolaihel
Same here, I really wish there was more integration between Gmail, Google Calendar, and some Todo list. I know Remember The Milk, Todoist, and a few others have some "gmail integration", but not to the point that would help me yet. I really wish there was something just like Todoist, except it would show up in my gmail and gcal either in the sidebar or as another tab (and hopefully both).
Then my next request would be mobile sync, just like goosync.
PS. I tried the simplistic Todo-list-in-gmail script, neat but just a little too basic. Todoist is nearly perfect for me. - jumpfroggy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@gaervern
True, you can do "offline mode" by downloading the data to 3rd party apps. But the interface is one of the best things about gmail/gcal, and you lose that with third party apps (I started using gmail instead of thunderbird just for the interface, let alone the other benefits). I'd be happy if there was a desktop clone of both apps that had *identical* interfaces, used an offline store, and was able to sync intelligently. - jumpfroggy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@einztein
It's actually taking me some getting used to the new philosophy. I used to have 1000+ emails in my inbox, just never got around to organizing them. Now I leave things in the inbox till I "handle" them, then archive them. If there's a new email, it'll show up in the inbox again.
It'll take me a while longer before I archive things immediately and then handle them later. It think this may not work for me; I'm an "out of sight, out of mind" kind of guy, which is why I like things sitting right there in the inbox. Maybe I just need a "not too important, handle later" tag to keep the low-priority stuff from building up in my inbox, and that leaves all the important things. Hmm... heading over to gmail right now.... - EinZteiN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You should read stuff 'til the end...
With leaving "Your Inbox Empty" they're recommending ARCHIVING your email...
The "purpose of having gmail in the first place" is NOT to DELETE mails, not meaning you shouldn't organize them and archive them aswell (thus leaving you INBOX clean and empty for better organization).
Good idea, huh?? :) - gaervern, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You can download Gmail to any e-mail program, and sync Gcal with many programs to work offline. I download all email including attachments to my laptop using Thunderbird and sync Gcal two-ways with the calendar in Windows Mobile on my smart phone using a program called oggsync.
- nicolaihel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I agree. They're simple and quick and powerful. I just with Google would hurry up and integrate them better. And Gcal really should have a to-do list without you having to do a workaround.
- mbuckingham, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Absolutely. That's the biggest drawback for me. I want something quickly accessible on both my computer and smartphone. Right now Outlook does it very well for me. I can make an email a task, assign a task priority, connect it to a contact, and I get to use my email and not a gmail account, calendar has popup reminders at what ever interval I decided for that calendar event.
- FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4@fkr3
Actually, you are getting dugg down because of your complete lack of specificity... Why don't you NAME some features and things that these aforementioned desktop apps can do that GMAIL can't and cite reasons why the average user (be they older or younger than 18) needs to do these things? - sigsegfalt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"Leave Your Inbox Empty."
I've never been good at this. Besides, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having Gmail in the first place? - nicolaihel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Also good for GTD stuff: zenhabits.net ... ton of stuff in the archives.
- adnk283, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1to be fair, lifehack.org is different than lifehacker.com.
- SuperJimmyJimbo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1GTD FTW
www.43folders.com - PayneX, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3@Fkr3
You make some good points, some real problems that do currently exist with web based apps, but you make them in such a way that compels people to dig u down. - digginestdog, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2The Gcal to-do GM script was nice, but it's easy enough to add a to-do to the google homepage, as long as you're using google services. ..they just need to add due dates to their little to-do gadget.
- eForRealYo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0This article makes use of Google tools and services as they're not intended, but will most likely push Google to make new or change existing tools and services to fit these needs.
- codyman, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2damnit... well, I guess its time to do this.....
Pulls out prayer rug, faces towards Mountain View, CA....
In Unison: "GOOOOOGLE... we are not worrrrrthy... hummmmmmmm" - fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -12/+5Meh, you can think I'm an idiot for saying it, it really doesn't make it any less true. Web based alternatives are inherently inferior to desktop applications, even if you think Google is your friend or whatever.
This is a nice, quick list of areas web based software blows chunks in.
#1 Speed
No web based software is anywhere near as fast as decent desktop software. Accessing, refreshing delays are all problems specific to web based software. AJAX isn't a solution, it's a marginally more efficient alternative to full refreshes.
#2 Compatibility
Desktop software is written for one or many platforms. It just works. You get the right program for your platform and there's no such thing as incompatibilities and quirks when it comes to wysiwyg editors and other javascript powered features.
#3 Connectivity
No internet? That's fine, you'll just have to work on everything else later.
#4 Interopability
Being able to share data and media effortlessly between applications rocks by the way.
#5 Integration
Outlook and other software provide 'one solution' instead of several you need to patch together using 3rd party workarounds.
#6 Security
My data is mine to do with what I want. It's not Google's or anyone else's. - fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3OK, the kids win. Gmail rocks or whatever, it's just what the whole world needs because obviously if it satisfies your need to replace hotmail or whatever other free email service you used at school previously, then it's a blanket solution to all problems.
G'night chumps. - fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -27/+5Right. Except the whole heap of free, opensource and commercial desktop software alternatives that crap all over web based anythings.
Unless by 'anyone' you meant 'anyone under 18'.
Can we please stop pretending that html based web applications offer even close to the functionality, features and speed of desktop software? The technologies used simply don't enable the kind of environment necessary for non-personal use. Web based versions are essentially last-resorts for people stuck without their laptops.
And voting me down doesn't make gmail or gcalendar or any of the million near-identical services superior to their desktop based counterparts.
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