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- painting, on 10/28/2009, -3/+23but photoshop is free on bitorrent.
- aywwts4, on 10/28/2009, -2/+18Gimp is a pathetic alternative to photoshop (Assuming you actually use Photoshop for real professional usage) The best metaphor is if someone says Microsoft Office, You say gedit, instead of open office. Sure they both edit text, but there is no further comparison.
People who say Gimp when people say photoshop hurt the open source movement, create unrealistic expectations, and dissatisfaction when people make the switch to Linux; Gimp is better than MSpaint, but other than that it is a drastically inferior product with a horrible UI. I give them credit for what they have accomplished, but unlike OO.org, linux, apache, and mysql they really haven't created a truly competitive product if you were to ignore price, which many other open projects have accomplished. - TheWindBlows, on 10/27/2009, -4/+15If your paying +$300 for Photoshop then you should get hardware of at least equal value to run it. $300 dollars can get you 4G RAM +2Ghz CPU and a decent graphics card nowadays. All capable of running Photoshop without problems even in a Virtual Machine.
Another note is Scratch drives are the same as virtual Memory. It helps tremendous amounts to offload virtual RAM from your system hard drive. AKA stop using your system drive as Virtual RAM. This kills the drive, rather small if any performance increase or higher chance of data preservation? For performance on the virtual RAM end just hook in a bunch of old drives/ get really cheap new ones in the system to be used as swap (remember its about bandwidth not size), and max your system on real RAM. - theberlindoctor, on 10/27/2009, -5/+12Spelling too, apparently.
- Sux4Bux, on 10/28/2009, -2/+9If you're a moron who doesn't know how to maintain one. All I was saying is legitimate Photoshop is a rip off. If someone has the money to actually pay for it then affording decent computer hardware shouldn't be a problem.
- divinediva, on 10/27/2009, -3/+10Did this make a HUGE difference?
- pixelguru, on 10/28/2009, -1/+7Setting your scratch drive to a RAID 0 array is the most dramatic speed increase I've seen out of Pshop when working with larger files. With Photoshop able to write to two scratch drives simultaneously, we were able to comfortable work on large format images for tradeshow exhibits and displays back in the day when the fastest machines we could buy were only a fraction of the speed as today's "clunkers". The drives don't have to be that large (by today's standards), but get the fastest spin & read/write time you can find. Use this array only as a scratch drive since any disc fragmentation will decrease performance and raid 0 offers no redundancy. You can set up a twin 120GB drive array these days for about $100, which is a lot cheaper than a new computer.
- cosmotic, on 10/28/2009, -0/+5For serious? This is on the front page?
- GamerXR72, on 10/28/2009, -2/+7In my experience with the corporate world, people who use photoshop professionally have great computers.
In my experience with the academic world, all computers suck. all of them. - GamerXR72, on 10/28/2009, -1/+6it's a netbook. theres no helping to speed that up.
netbooks are for word processing, internet access, and similarly non-resource intensive tasks. - pixelguru, on 10/28/2009, -2/+6That would be two reasonably fast drives and a RAID enclosure. I'm sure if you browse the sale rack, you might be able to do better.
- MScrip, on 10/28/2009, -0/+4Photoshop CS4 Upgrade is $200
Photoshop CS4 Full is $700
Photoshop CS4 Extended Upgrade is $350
Photoshop CS4 Extended Full is $1000
I don't see $300 anywhere... but I see your point :) - Yarkz, on 10/28/2009, -5/+8Also hardware is free from stores.
- KibibyteBrain, on 10/28/2009, -1/+4Only a horrible manager would pay someone to operate a licensed copy of Photoshop a non-zero wage on a crappy computer, as they are losing money on the salary and license. You can get a very very good machine for Photoshop for about $600 now-a-days, vs. x% of your salary going to waiting on your old computer.
- tugger, on 10/28/2009, -2/+5How to REALLY make photoshop run faster on a slow computer.
1. Go here: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf ...
2. Download the Norton products removal tool.
3. Run the tool to remove all norton products.
4. Go here: www.avira.com, and download the personal free version.
5. Reboot.
That should see a significant speed increase. - takamalak, on 10/28/2009, -1/+4I know you are but what am I?
- explodingzebras, on 10/28/2009, -1/+4or the gimp if you don't really need all the features of Photoshop
- MacTyler, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2Scratch that, how do you make it run faster on a fast computer.
- liquisoft, on 10/28/2009, -1/+3Under "Scratch Disks" it says "...don’t worry about the space – it is only temporary and will be wiped once you quit Photoshop."
This is wrong. Prior to getting a new 300+gb internal HD, I wrangled with Photoshop using up so much of my existing HD space that I actually ran out. Yes, quitting PS solves the issue, but that doesn't really help things when Photoshop tells you you're out of hard drive space.
Before anybody tries to act smart and tells me that my former HD was small or that I was doing something wrong, please keep in mind that in my line of work I handle very very large files and have to store tons of them on my machine (which is a laptop). This is obviously why I got a new HD installed. - Frankzulla, on 10/28/2009, -1/+3I'm glad I'm not the only one out there seeing it.
- inactive, on 10/28/2009, -1/+3Who uses Photoshop with a slow computer? Surely Photoshop users know whether the program will run well on their computer or not.
- GamerXR72, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2I was going to comment on how gimp blows, but aywwts4 seems to have that down.
- dtele, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO is to scratch memory out to a second PRIMARY partioned hard drive on a free HD channel.
My first version of Photoshop had no layers feature - Yeah I've been using it for a long time. - mason092, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2You can get two 500GB hard drives for just over $100. It's not really necessary to have an enclosure for them. Just put them in your case.
- bigbenc, on 10/28/2009, -2/+3Made a difference for me, no more overheating.
- Sux4Bux, on 10/28/2009, -3/+4Funny thing about this is that if you can actually afford a legitimate copy of Photoshop then the computer shouldn't be a problem.
- LeonFlux, on 10/28/2009, -1/+2Maybe try creating a separate partition drive to use only for photoshop's scratch disk?
- Jowki, on 11/08/2009, -0/+1Nice. Quite helpful. I rune Photoshop CS3 on a lame laptop which slows down everything, especially when starting up.
And LOL @ Tugger. I totally agree with you man, Norton Anti-Virus slows down your computer so much! I think they were concentrating on looks more than what it's designed for.
At the moment it takes me about 25-30 seconds to load up Photoshop on my 1GB ram Advent laptop. - mason092, on 10/28/2009, -2/+3$100? Where are you buying your hard drives? Do you take a time machine back a few years in the past?
- TheWindBlows, on 10/28/2009, -0/+1Isn't that for the entire suite...nvm the upgrade is 300.
That just makes my point even more valid... - TheWindBlows, on 10/28/2009, -1/+2Paint.NET developer is horribly stubborn. He wants performance, but it has to be .NET which is always going to be 1/2 as fast as C/C++ unless you use OpenCL (which is basically C). Also even though the source was originally guaranteed to be open he has locked it up, no questions about it. The advantage of .NET is to be portable (which this not for the most part) / have cleaner code. You get the same effects with C++/Qt4 except faster code and easier portability in the toolkit. I found it funny he imagined having a cross platform Paint.NET with Mono then two months later makes it the equivalent of closed source and begins to refine it even more so it can't be easily ported cross platform for at least 2 years by now. The whole internal development is strange and I'm wondering if he's planning to do unstable as free and stable as cost oriented or he scored a deal with Microsoft for Windows 8.
- GamerXR72, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1If you're a graphics designer, professionally, then you should have a good computer and your manager sucks.
If your job consists of accessing a database, word processing, taking notes, creating schedules, reviewing timesheets, etc... any piece of ***** computer will do that just fine. - kahlessreborn, on 10/28/2009, -1/+2Or you know you could properly cool your computer?
- mathcreative, on 10/28/2009, -1/+2This is where the reply button is-------------------------------------------------------------------------------->^
- regeya, on 10/28/2009, -2/+3God. When I read your comment, Frankzulla, it was rated at -2.
What site is going to replace Digg now that it's taken over by *****, anyway?
GUYS, it's absolutely true. I mean, for *****'s sake, I work in one of the biggest publishing companies in North America, and I use a Sawtooth G4 at work. It is, sadly, more common than you realize.
I feel good for those of you who work at great places where management realizes that keeping up with the times is absolutely necessary, and for those of you who are naive enough to believe that's just the way the world works with rare exception, but don't diss people for telling it how things are in the real world... - mister711, on 10/28/2009, -2/+2get a mac
- MScrip, on 10/28/2009, -1/+1Photoshop is $700
Or one Alex :) - Frankzulla, on 10/28/2009, -3/+3I've known a lot of horrible managers that often did exactly that, sadly.
- inactive, on 10/28/2009, -3/+3Get a faster computer.....end of story.
- explodingzebras, on 10/28/2009, -3/+3could you get by with using a slightly older version of Photoshop?
- Frankzulla, on 10/27/2009, -6/+5In a perfect world, Photoshop would always be ran on computers that are up to snuff. Unfortunately that is not often the case in the corporate nor academic world.
- KboT, on 10/28/2009, -2/+1Your netbook must really suck. I can load it up in under 30 seconds and never have runtime lag while running Chrome/Digsby and an 6ish~ 'hidden apps' (Windows home server, security, etc.).
Lenovo s10-2, 2gb ram, 160hdd, win7. Thanks for making me feeling better about my purchase. - Sushubh, on 10/28/2009, -4/+3Umm. The real secret: Use Paint.NET.
- Imissnaptime, on 10/28/2009, -6/+4The real secret: Use Paint.
- digdug2008, on 10/28/2009, -3/+1Would photoshop the taskmanager stats.
- PhAndrew, on 10/28/2009, -4/+0Can anyone confirm if it drastically speed up photoshop? It takes me 30 seconds to 1 minute for photoshop to load up on my netbook(2 gigs of ram) :(
- inactive, on 10/28/2009, -7/+2Contrary to popular opinion, it is possible for a computer to slow down with time.
- inagoodcause, on 10/27/2009, -9/+2This is indeed going to be very helpful to me. I face this porblem most of the time.
- tomarocco, on 10/28/2009, -12/+3Gimp
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