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- chingy1788, on 10/12/2007, -5/+87Welcome to the hall of porn!
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -30/+86D-d-d-do...do you mean they actually aquired something to benefit from it? That's a novel idea for a company.
By the way, how did it *break* anything? If 'open source' really worked like the dream you say it does, the source code of the program would still be available under the GNU / Linux form (and in it's unbroken form, oh goody). However, considering they've worked on the program, and opened it up to an audience that is significantly bigger*, I don't think they've broken anything. You say they "broke" it. How? I say again, by porting it to Windows, they allowed a much larger number of people to use the program.
*This is a browser plug-in. Therefore, I'll go by browser usage for this analysis. According to W3Schools, the operating system usage was 3.4% Linux, 3.6% Mac and 93% Windows during the month of March of this year. That means twenty seven (27) times more people will have the potential of running "Photosynth". Not only are you deluded, ignorant and misleading, you're self-centered and time and time again you've made an ass out of yourself. By allowing millions more people to use a program, Microsoft has broken it.
Plus, Microsoft doesn't code under GNU. They don't have to. No laws require them to. What's wrong with them coding for the largest user base? The large majority of developers want to do it too. Why don't you go rag on the "Windows-only" developers for a change?
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp - GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31Have you seen the average flickr / deviantARTist's page? "Now heres an album I made of every building in my state, because I have no artistic talent". But then again, I guess Photosynth wouldn't work well with the contrast-nuked black and white photos of fat chicks.
Seriously, though. They've got a demo up that works pretty well, and it's not a final product. There are a *lot* of photos of landmarks, if you need proof just Google Image Search "the coliseum". 380,000 photos would be enough to generate a nice 3D image. - crestfall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26that's got to be a setting on your system. It played in WMP for me.
- crestfall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19I'm using the tech preview in Firefox right now, and it's awesome. The speckled map of the whole place is perfect for orienting you.
- disillusioned, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Any question that begins with "is there really enough content on the internet" is already a stupid one.
Especially in this day and age.
Look at how few photos were needed to compose each of the sample collections--you're talking less than 500 images for a really rather comprehensive collection of a single location. In other words, the work of an amateur, avid photographer in a day or two at a favorite spot.
You can bet indeed that enough content exists to bind together and allow you to explore the nooks and crannies of the world.
Just think--you could upload your pictures, Photosynth could track them down and you could browse around and "visit" other alleys, or perhaps sides of the building you hadn't looked at. Instead of simply admiring your shot of the Bellagio's Chihuly glass ceiling in the lobby, but regretting that you didn't get a better shot of the façade behind the front desk, you'll be able to see it in all the detail you might have thought to capture.
This will allow you to explore things visually in a much more comprehensive way. Instead of seeing a simple, 2-dimensional picture accompanying an article or encyclo/wikipedia entry, you'll be able to explore the surroundings, browse for detail in areas that interest you, and truly feel as if you're there.
The Basilica collection is truly incredible. I love that I can explore behind columns, around corners and read every detail on the signs present. It also has the capacity to act as a compensation system for your poor photos. If the shot you took of a particular detail didn't turn out the way you wanted, and you wished you could show off that detail to your friends, you might just be able to.
It won't replace photography as a habit, or the personal pride one may take in their own collection of photos, and perhaps a merit-based system or some form of recognition would exist, a CC license, etc, that allows you to source each individual component shot. At the very least, amateur photographers will be able to contribute their thousands of detail shots to the greater good, allowing the entire world to see what they gazed through their lens. - championchap, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16You use the product, not the manufacturer.
Judge the product by its own merits. - aussieNickuss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I think this is good for exploring images and places and looks especially useful for education, I just hope Microsoft don't limit it to Windows in the future.
It's good to see that they have stated that its compatible with Firefox....I thought they'd make IE a requirement for something like this. - brandf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Hey guys, I just bought an insanely expensive computer that's only used by 3% of the population and now I'm bitching because the worlds largest software company isn't giving me the time of day. Why would a company with a competing operating system not want support my OS? Oh well, at least I have iPhoto! iPhoto is cooler than this anyways...seriously, photosynth looks boring. Does photosynth work with QuickSilver? NO! Steve Jobs would have never let this happen. Well, time to get back to my job (haha, jk I dont have one). C Ya!
-hopeless mac zealot - hmemcpy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Imagine this combined with flickr...
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Just like iLife or Safari doesn't work on any version of Windows.
*****. - joshman5k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11This thing will be sweet if it could be merged with Virtual Earth
- tinkafoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I saw this about two years ago. Are they ever going to finish the thing?
- crestfall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10it works really well, but I have 1.5 gigs of ram, and 256 video ram. Seriously, it's like buttah. Amazing. Checking out Gary Faigin's Art Studio right now. If it runs on Firefox in Windows, shouldn't it work on Firefox in Mac, and at least some linux distros?
- ElbridgeGerry, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Firefox support! Live labs is getting neater every day.
- modelcadet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8This is so cool. I think it'd be cool if you could navigate the 3d world in extra dimensions, like time of day.
I'm excited to be able to create my own spaces. I want to photosynth my studio. - l4lucas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6ZOMG the video opens in Kaffine for me! It must mean that Microsoft is switching everything over to Linux OSS apps!
< /Sarcasm > - sandig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It would be nice if it pre-fetched the images next to the one that you are currently looking at, so that you didn't have to wait for them to load when you click them.
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Kudos for supporting Firefox. Now if only they also supported Mac/Linux ... but that's asking too much :-b Anyway I can't see it; does this thing really work?
- shotgunefx, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10@GawtMilk
Just a clarification, you don't have to GPL code to have it run on linux, not like that probably has anything to do with why linux support was dropped. - Wrathernaut, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Anybody else find Stephen Hawking in there?
http://labs.live.com/photosynth/view.html?collection=all/ps/sanmarco/index1.sxs&im=images/IMG_3387.sdx&pos=-0.460667:-0.0379697:-0.00661491&dir=0.950029:0.295655:0.100161&zoom=3.00124&fov=35.0637&offset=-0.105006:0.138289
And major kudos for it working in Firefox! - CiXeL, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7think that guy's offended by those geico caveman commercials?
- crestfall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Oh *****. I just realized that the fact that i don't own a Mac *does* make me a *****. I'm going to kill myself now.
- Gunrun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Fancy them hating (or more correctly not supporting) an OS that they don't own, and is in direct oposition to a product they sell. Whatever is the buisness world coming to.
- jonjo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5after all the digg hype over ***** apple devices, linux distros and stupid 'how to make chicks like you' crap we finally get something truly stunning
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I'm responding to the parent of the thread. If I were responding to you I would have made it more obvious, for example addressing you by name.
it's generally a bad idea to read comments and think they revolve around you. - StandardsDT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@pcharles23
Your just jealous that it doesn't work on your precious Mac. - Piggycow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Thats really amazing, I can't wait to try it
- holyskeleton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3they ran a free ad for Dell.
- Darcy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That's because this video is over a year old.
- benb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Actually, if you look at the first video they talk quite a bit about U. of Wash, etc. http://labs.live.com/photosynth/video.html
- joe90210, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3not true, this wills probably run with WPF/E which of course has a Windows and Mac plug-in
- hirak99, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5It works with Firefox!!!
- yonas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Pics or it didn't hap....wait - 3D!!!!!!
- rstarr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@crestfall
Haha, probably should have looked a little bit closer to that picture. - pixelpuncher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This makes me very happy the various quicktime vr tools are either heavily mac based or overpriced.
- sm1l3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Uh yea, nothing to do with firefox bro.............it only runs on XP Sp2 or Vista............
- crestfall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2wrong link
- mizraabianz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is freaking cool idea.. lets not come to conclusion and use this topic to bash MS, We all use MS products one way or another. I can see this work well with individual photographer making their own collection and displaying them in 3D
- Phil246, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5At first i thought that this would be something like an automated sketchup-like tool which created bonafide 3d models from a collection of images.
After watching the video it turns out its a fancy way of generating a 3d panorama type of thing from images, not a 3d model that can be plugged into something like live earth.
you can do that with sketchup, creating models for 3d warehouse that then load in google earth, but the process is not automated. If you want to create a 3d model you must do it yourself.
It would be great if the technologies could be combined, but as things stand, its not all that impressive for me yet, personally. - Cyberdactyl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sketch-Up's "Photomatch" DOES do this. But it's a bit more rigorous in that you must first create a rough shape of the building -to scale- then match or lay the photos to the shape. . somewhat like applying textures in a 3D game engine.
- jull1234, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here's a link to the original research. This has a Java Applet based demo.
http://phototour.cs.washington.edu/ - camkerr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I saw this back in September, one of my profs showed me, we were sposed to get copies of it to work with but didn't cause Microsoft was being gay. Hopefully this won't be one of the things Microsoft buys and then disappears.
- SirFistalot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Did anyone notice the music used in this video? It's a loop from Apple Soundtrack - "Progressive House.aif" Although I think most of those loops are licensed from places that sell to anyone - so it could have easily come from another loop library or program.
- Olmen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is like a year old or something. Cool nevertheless though :D
- m00nstone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is it just me or is that dude's voice ***** annoying?
- richdiggins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1
"We want to provide this capability as soon as we can, but there are some real technical hurdles to solve before we’re ready for primetime."
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"It's also very computationally intensive; the processing to build a collection can take hours or days at the moment."
I think that sums it up pretty well. Sounds like a manual process of building a 3D mosaic to me. I'd like to see this become automated, though that seems a big stretch. - Iggins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm sure microsoft will nail it dead on... and that all the crap floating around the internet wont mess it up.
- Phil246, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2last i was aware, it was being done through specially outfitted vans driving through cities, using lasers to measure the height of buildings/features and digital cameras to photograph the sides. If automated functionality had actually been created in this to export 3d models, dont you think it would have been demonstrated?
- llewner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If this actually works like they're saying, I will buy this and make sweet, sweet love to it.
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