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- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Naa.. :-) looking at it from the back (backend) might be better. OpenSourceCMS would be the better site for assessment, as well as a nice test drive.
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It's like you're inside my boss' head..
- concertina, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This review is fluff. Not that fluff is bad ... but it's the type of reading tech managers do, right before they propose that the corporate intranet should be switched to it in midstream because they read about a nuAwesome!ZOMGcms. Or new to them at least.
No analysis of load, no testing of scalability, no addressing of user concerns about the security of the overall product. No digg. - winnch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6On today's episode we'll learn something about prepositions and positioning.
Great review on Linux.com on Drupal 5.0
can easily become:
Great review of Drupal 5.0 on Linux.com
Lesson: don't feel so rushed to be the first to get a digg story up that you end up pushing awfully prepared, prepared, and paraphrased content. - technerdy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I've used Drupal for more than a year now.
Pros
a) Its easy to setup
b) Has many features, and the modules(plugins) are generally good quality
c) Easy to understand once you have to start modifying it for your own sites needs. Drupal is clean and well thought out. The whole node concept and that everything is a node works well
d) Easy to backup and upgrade! I can't say this of any other CMS.
Cons
a) Spam comments, very bad at dealing with spam comments (there are no good add-ons either)
b) Forums, forums is terrible, not close to adequate
c) Theming is very difficult, and thats evident in how few themes there are available for drupal, compared to mambo and other systems
d) Doesn't scale very well when you hit many visitors, it needs some hefty hardware. I think this is because of how it works with mysql in the background, since every page turns out to be some PHP code + mysql requests before its delivered to Apache.
If you turn caching on (which was horrible in 4.x), its better, but then many modules such as forums break since the dates are then cached, recently popular topics etc.
Until their caching system is much better, Drupal will be slow. - kennyidaho, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7The title hurt my head.
- ellisgl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Well Drupal isn't Linux or a distro there off. It's a PHP based CMS and somewhat of a framework. So there for it's software.....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3great
4. wonderful; first-rate; very good: We had a great time. That's great!
That was a pretty good guess, you got it right! - tehkain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Drupal 5.0 is great. Only issue i have had thus far is waiting for modules to be ported to 5.0 from 4.7. Rather wait for a module then upgrade at a later time.
As for expandability, drupal is insanely versatile. I had a blog site up in a matter of seconds and 3 days later it turned into a fully featured corporate web page with no blog in sight. - leszek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4it is not linux related (other that they are free software).
You can put drupal on a windows server. - ellisgl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For your cons
a) I think there's an AKO plugin now.
b) I'm sure there are ways to integrate with major forum packages.
c) Yes - the theming system is difficult - specially when they don't have tutorial on the new 5.0 system
d) I could have sworn they had caching systems in place that are selectable and tweakable per page. For forums I would take a very stable forum and somehow connect the two with the user db. Also put the forum on another server. =)
Stuff I would like to see it do easily is a CMS / News Site combination. I have been working on getting my old old site back and running but I want something that is a mix of both worlds that work together. I.E. Front page is a news site. Back end can post a news blurb. Or I can make an article that is announced on the front page. Something like HardOCP.
Pagination could be made better. I would like a drop down box saying "Page 1: Intro Page 2: System setup"..
I wish they would release it with a real editor - FCK or what ever with all the plugins needed...
You may see my list of complaints - but if were to ask me about Joomla and WordPress for what I want to do (almost had what I wanted with WordPress) There would a longer list for both. - bertboerland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Agreed. The title sucks and so do the rest of the titles that make it to the frontpage of digg. I did it on purpose, I was tempted to throw in "!0 things you didnt know about..."
Surf in a crowd does have its disadvantages, one of them that the lowest common denominator tends to be what we are reading (and I am posting :-) - olav, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You might want to try one for free at http://drupalsite.org.
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I give this review a 4 out of 5 stars.
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When I used Drupal, I think I used a vBulletin/Drupal crossover thing which worked pretty well with a little bit of tweaking.
Honestly, I don't like the big OS content-management systems, mainly because they're more like portals. I want a system just to manage content. For that, I just use Symfony, which is a nice little framework in PHP. You define your content structure and you can pretty systematically generate your admin panel. Then it's up to you to create your frontend. Way more flexibility in the end, and it gives you much better control. - technerdy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Heres the link for OpenSourceCMS which has many CMS systems for test drive:
http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=132 - londubh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I couldn't figure Drupal out so I gave up on it. I'm playing around with e107 and it was much easier to figure out and use. For now I'm perfectly happy using WordPress as a poor man's CMS. It does everything I need to do. For work I use Zope and Plone.
- keathmilligan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Drupal 5 is great.
There are several plugins now available for dealing with comment spam. You can also integrate with other comment-management systems. The stock Drupal forums are weak, but adequate for low-load intranet applications and such. You can integrate with other forum packages.
I don't find theming to be that difficult at all in Drupal, but I'm very familiar with theming in other CMSs.
Caching is a lot better in the recent versions of Drupal, but that said, Drupal is still probably not the package you're looking for if you're running a very high-traffic site.
@ellisgl: There is an FCK module - it works great. There is also a module for TinyMCE and a couple of other wysiwig editors. - zaqintosh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree, that article is pretty useless.
I'm involved with an organization that is desperately looking for a decent open source content management system for a LARGE SCALE overhaul of hundreds of disjoint scattered and poorly managed websites.
The article doesn't really get into any specifics... at all!
Spending a paragraph explaining the ease of installation really doesn't tell me how this is a relevant version over 4.7, nor do you address any functionality other than minor blog / commentary related stuff. Drupal is more than a blog application
Also, CSS-backed pages are your concern regarding performance?! Give me a break... usually its the database back-end. So 2 extra hits for 2 css pages, that doesn't take-down a webserver, unless you are running a 486 on a 56k modem (or get dugg of course :) ). - pirilampo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't know about the forum remark...We've been using Drupal for our forum at www.joio.com.br (Portuguese language), and it works great. I wouldn't go for a phpBB forum over what we're using. Of course, I don't actually admin the thing and have no idea what add-ons we're using, but from a user standpoint, I love it.
- bobzibub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is there an eta for the ecom module?
- bpocanada, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I'm involved with an organization that is desperately looking for a decent open source content management system for a LARGE SCALE overhaul of hundreds of disjoint scattered and poorly managed websites."
Drupal is indeed scalable. Its more on how you plan the system architecture, high availability, scalable infrastructure.
Here are few challenges ( and these will go away because of the huge community following Drupal has now )
1) There is lack of documentation and best practices
2) Drupal needs lot of improvement on eCommerce side
By and large, its a great CMS - xamox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1drupal++
- bertboerland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1sure there is an ETA
http://drupal.org/node/43305 - DavidandDenise, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3And as with most stories on digg, "great" = positive I'm guessing? Gotta love the self-serving posters on here. Sigh. Guess I'll go back to reading about Vista's "awesome" wallpaper.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1I don't want to be a troll, but I wish people would file Linux related things under Linux...I removed that section from my front page because I grew tired of these " is and new version x.x.x.x has been released." Sigh I may just have to remove software as well.
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