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- leszek, on 10/12/2007, -5/+94now all your google searches must begin with /
- LabThug, on 10/12/2007, -6/+48Does anyone else think it's funny that the article being linked is from Yahoo! ?
- FluffyArmada, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28I don't know if many people will get that..
[ from vim startup text ]
VIM - Vi IMproved
~
~ version 6.2
~ by Bram Moolenaar et al.
~ Vim is open source and freely distributable
~
~ Help poor children in Uganda! - pdeco, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29vim is only version 7
emacs 21.4
what else can you add to a text editor?
> well emacs was a text editor but we thought it needed something extra
> so now its a flight simulator. - thelsdj, on 10/12/2007, -7/+32The question on everyone's mind, does this mean more or less money for the children of Uganda?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Now its going to be called.... Gim
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24@hakdragon get with the times, it's all about nano, lol ;-)
- FullMetalMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16"I will no longer need sponsorship to survive. Therefore, starting the
end of March, all money given for Vim sponsorship and registration will
go to the project in Kibaale, Uganda."
This speeks for itself! - pegas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12From http://www.vim.org/develop.php:
Vim 7 is currently being developed. It includes many new features and improvements, such as:
* Vim script enhancements: Lists, Dictionaries, profiling, etc.
* On-the-fly Spell checking.
* Translated manual pages.
* Internal grep, faster and portable.
* Printing multi-byte text.
I've been using the CVS version of Vim for some time now. It became beta a few days ago and so far has been as stable as 6.4. - HAKdragon, on 10/12/2007, -9/+21A user interface that is easier for the average person to pick up?
(yes, I'm lame and use pico :-P) - strcmp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12pdeco:
Emacs' version number is only so high because the developers decided to drop the leading "1." from version numbers like 1.12. Version 13 (1.13) was the first public release. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs#History - noamsml, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12gVim (Lame joke understood in 3...2...1...)
- diecastbeatdown, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13cool feature in firefox is that "/" begins a search. probably a well known thing but for those of us who have "/" forever engrained into our memories as the search function, it is a nice touch from the firefox team.
- appletalk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10In fact, it means more money:
| Therefore, starting the
| end of March, all money given for Vim sponsorship and registration will
| go to the project in Kibaale, Uganda. - hagoss01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I agree. When I started college in 1999, I knew nothing of the IBM AIX system that the student email was based on. I quickly learned how to use pine as this was the "recommended" mail reader for us to use on the system. A older friend of mine at U of L showed me vim one day while I was still a freshman and I immediately balked because it seemed so "hard to use." However, immediately after showing me vim, he showed me the vimtutor that is usually present whenever vim is there. So, if you have never used vim I would recommend checking it out at least a few times. Walk through the vimtutor. I also recommend having a friend give you a copy of their .vimrc file or find one on google. Vim is simple when you need something simple, yet it has a lot of more advanced features that can really come in handy.
Little did I know at the time that what my friend was gearing me up for was a switch to mutt for my mail reader. Mutt was my primary mail reader until about 2003 when the university started changing everything and reading mail on mutt ceased to be an option. But Mutt is a story for another day... - LouisC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10diecastbeatdown: It's done that for a long time in Opera too... inline find in page is activated by hitting /
- sp1nm0nkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@darth_tater
Then you've never really used Vim.
Vim is MUCH more powerful than it looks... as is Emacs. Nano is just what the name implies, a simple, minimal text editor. Vim has all kinds of macro functionality and navigation shortcuts and fun things like that. - marnaq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Keep on dreaming :-)
- bdxphoenix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7yeah, i used to use pico/nano all the time for editing (always in the back of my mind saying one of these days i'll learn vi). finally i've taken the time to learn vi and love it, especially the :sp command along with a few of the nice :set features, I love it. now whenever a computers default editor is pico/nano I get scared and end up hitting a bunch of keys before i remember how to quit so i can load vi.
PS - now on the back of my mind is that i'll learn emacs one day, because any good computer scientist knows how to exploit the powers of both (i.e. - what holy war?) - alc0h0lic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Vi(m) rules them all !
- deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6or Gi (gee aye)
- pegas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The reason to at least be familiar with basics of vi is that it is installed on almost all systems out there by default. So far I've only seen the live installation Gentoo CD (2004.3 was the one I used) which did not have a distribution of vi in chrooted environment (there was vi, however, on live CD itself).
- diffuze, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Presenting.. Voogle?
- FluffyArmada, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7They're porting it to cell phones. ;-)
[ imagine doing vim commands with a cell phone.. ] - thecwin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is going to do wonders for Google's easy to use UI!
Seriously though, vim rocks ;) and it's always nice knowing that the people who helped make such great programs have food on their plate. - Snarfy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5 The only reason nano is intuitive is because your prior experience is with editors that are similar to nano. As far as features go, you can't even compare nano to vim or emacs. I've used VIM since version 2.0, and prior to that I used something called elvis. Before that it was good ol' vi. I've used Emacs and I like it but I never stuck with it. I don't like some of the philosophies. You use vi because vi is everywhere. With emacs you ssh to the machine running your emacs and edit files remotely from there because emacs has features like that. Emacs becomes your OS in that aspect. Emacs is for people that edit files so much that it's pointless to ever close the editor.
- FluffyArmada, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Dudes [ and two females that frequent digg ]! Let's start old-fashioned editor holy wars!!! :-D
- c0uchm0nster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Sure why not - what would you suggest instead of vi or emacs? I mean hell, people still use Christianity when there are obvious alternatives... like, beer and tv.
- nu11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3EMACS = eleven megs and counting still
:) - wireplay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Am I the only one getting sick of Google?
- jzimmerman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3emacs is not just an editor. it is nearly an operating system.
could be an explorer/other shell replacement at least.
you never have to leave emacs to do anything. - CharlesGriswold, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4> Jeezus. I thought Vim was pretty much feature complete! What can they possibly be adding!?
They could add the Vigor Assistant. ( http://vigor.sourceforge.net/ ) - LKBM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2One very annoying thing in Gmail is that '/ selects the search box, stealing that hotkey from Firefox's type-ahead find. Of course, I could turn off all the Gmail hotkeys, but I like the ones that don't conflict with Firefox'.
- dallen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i think that anything done in the 20% time belongs to Google, so I hope not
- marnaq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3GoogleIM.
- noGoodNamesLeft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2leviathan3k; yes, you're absolutely right; however, we should bear in mind that it would probably come with a horrid text editor ;-)
- leviathan3k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If they were going for a whole OS, they should've hired an Emacs programmer instead. $DEITY knows they have enough experience with that.
- Monoboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Gvim is just a GUI that was built for Vim.
There is also Cream, which tends to help people who don't know how to use Vim very well.
http://cream.sourceforge.net/ - zagi1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2simple answer yes
- deinspanjer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow... Google and Vim are by far the two "applications" I use most in my daily work.
I wonder if the part about still being able to work on Vim refers to his 20% time or if he has an arrangement with Google to allow serious development effort still... - Writher, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It alternates between the two each time you open vim.
- energeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Even konqueror enables search with /
- prurigro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3nano is much more intuitive and way less hectic to use imo, but if you're trying to delete 50 lines of text over a low band ssh connection I guarantee you Vi(m) will love you :) (and you it).
on another note, I think its great that open source programmers are getting picked up by companies (remembering a digg article not too long ago on the subject)- its hard to say exactly what got him the job, but it means that years of maintaining an open source app rather than working at a company are still good on the resume- in turn this could mean people are less apprehensive about starting their own (thinking it could doom them in the long run) - halfeaten, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yep, I'd have to agree with Trepan there. The mainframe ISPF editor is full of editing goodness.
I still like Vi/Vim tho... - remcgregor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"that is because Yahoo! want to learn very little detail from what Google is doing so Yahoo! can plan accordingly.
Yahoo! is very obessive of Google i guess. :D heh."
Please tell me you're kidding, because this has to be the absolute dumbest comment I have ever read. It is Yahoo! Groups, I could go there and post news about Microsoft, Google, Ask Jeeves, Icerocket and any other Yahoo! competitor I pleased. Doesn't mean Yahoo! has anything to do with it. - bombcar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No, I'm pretty sure Microsoft, Yahoo, and A9 are also sick of Google.
- zagi1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1how is nano different from pico?
- raindog469, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Woohoo, now we'll be able to use an AJAX version of vim as our gmail editor!
- battybattybatt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1VWRY doubtful that he will liscense Google to use any form of vim, VERY doubtful.
- funkytaco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If the average person can't "pick up" how to use vi/vim from the help file, the average person needs to stick to pico or nano.
With that said
:w (write)
:w filenamehere
:wq (write, then quit)
:%s/findme/repaced/ (will search for "findme" and replace it with "replaced" in the whole file. Escape forwards slashes with a backslash. i.e. /... read the manual for the sed command to learn more.)
/find_this (will search for "find_this" in the file. -
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