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- gcnaddict, on 10/28/2009, -1/+86http://is.gd/4G6py
I lol'd - jhofman, on 10/28/2009, -1/+84This just gets better every day.
- mattluiz, on 10/28/2009, -1/+51And Garmin and TomTom's stocks crash:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/10/28/the-game- ... - Yankees368, on 10/28/2009, -4/+40This is possibly game changing news, however, there is a significant drawback. To be able to put this out for free, google had to create their own set of maps. They no longer use 3rd party sources for the maps, such as teleatlas. I have found that the new google data is riddled with errors and mistakes. These include, just in my small part of Long Island, (roads that have been established for decades, well documented in the past, and even on street view) missing one way info, misspelled road names, illegal turns no longer documented, barriers separating roads no longer shown, and many other errors. I alone have reported over 25 mistakes within a few square miles of my house, and those are just errors that I know of.
Until they correct a ton of errors on their maps, I would say to use with extreme caution, and know where you are going before hand. - jvmudd01, on 10/28/2009, -0/+25I like having a dedicated GPS device in my car but the problem is how expensive it is to update the map data, 70$/year for Garmin. I always thought that map updates should be free for the life of the device and it looks like Google will force competitors to start offering this as an incentive to purchase their products.
- geoken, on 10/28/2009, -0/+20Well they've been raping everyone on map updates for a while so hopefully they've built up enough cash to do something useful.
I'm pretty sure this never would have happened, or not as fast, if all the unsuspecting GPS buyers (ie my Dad) didn't spend hundreds of dollars on a Nav unit only to find they would need to spend hundreds more for updated maps and maps of different areas which ultimately led to them going back to printing maps off Google. - RadicalEdward, on 10/28/2009, -3/+20thats advice everyone should use with all gps's as they all have errors. I've never heard of anyone driving into a river or anything using google maps though.
- RadicalEdward, on 10/28/2009, -1/+16no doubt apple/google wont be in any rush to get this on the iphone
- broke186, on 10/28/2009, -1/+14This is relevant to my interests.
- artriue, on 10/28/2009, -0/+11Just one more reason to ditch the iPhone and the crap AT&T likes to call service.
- AlyxVance, on 10/28/2009, -1/+11oh man, that's great.
- pw378, on 10/28/2009, -0/+9And how much does that iPhone TomTom app cost? $193.89US
http://www.tuaw.com/2009/08/05/tomtom-for-iphone-p ...
I don't think thats real competition for Android + FREE - tacojohn48, on 10/28/2009, -0/+9If that happens I for one am all for a google tax. Also the ads must be effective or people wouldn't be buying them.
- puzzud, on 10/28/2009, -0/+8Let's see: say Google map navigator reports that you frequent McDonalds, Starbucks, art galleries, and recently Valvoline/mechanics.
Suddenly the ads you start seeing mention new junk from those restaurants, new art show locations, and perhaps some advice about car repair.
Where you go online, Google already has a good idea. Where you go physically, not so much. But that is changing obviously.
The more Google knows, the better the ads should be (as the theory goes). It suddenly becomes apparent that Google will know more than your bank and its affiliates (you know, the people your bank sells you out to--to make more money). Except, I don't think Google is so interested in selling you out--at least not directly. I'd rather see ads they deliver to me, rather than them giving my info to other companies and then receiving junk mail/etc from sed companies. - pktgumby, on 10/28/2009, -0/+8AT&T offers service now?! When did this happen?
- pktgumby, on 10/28/2009, -0/+7Check out Waze when you get a chance, it is kind of cool in that it lets users make corrections to the map when they find errors.
It is in a very beta state at this point, tons of errors, but has real time traffic updates. It is free, and will only get better with more people using it. I don't rely on it for navigation, but just for the traffic info. Available on most smartphone platforms I believe.
*EDIT* The real time traffic info is directly from people using the application. I believe this is how Google gets their traffic data now, right? Pull it from smartphone users running Google Maps? - borez, on 10/28/2009, -2/+9"TomTom and Garmin are going to seriously need to worry about their bottom line."
TomTom and Garmin are going out of business. FTR I'm not a fan of Garmin, it always seems to take you on the strangest routes. - Yankees368, on 10/28/2009, -0/+7Yeah, I have reported all the mistakes I have found, and they have responded (automated message) to almost all of them. If you find a mistake, in the bottom right corner of the map, click REPORT MISTAKE, or something similar to that.
- BubblesTheChimp, on 10/28/2009, -0/+7This article stimulated the pleasure center of my cerebral cortex.
- GodsHand, on 10/28/2009, -0/+6Google ads ARE effective. Especially on a local level. I have a friend who runs a business that was seeing sharp declines. Google gave me a $100 credit on my Google account for AdWords. I put an ad up and... wow. Phone calls every day, the website is actually getting hits. It continues to be incredibly successful, and it's cheaper than putting an ad in the paper.
- Mateo2, on 10/28/2009, -1/+6Who wants the government to restrict Google?
- puzzud, on 10/28/2009, -1/+6You reported the mistakes to Google? I was wondering if that was possible, as I encountered a minor one near my house. How did you did you report it, may I ask?
- Yankees368, on 10/28/2009, -1/+6My point was that google has errors that were not errors in the past, on either GPS devices, or their own maps.
- tewcewl, on 10/28/2009, -1/+5I just paid an one-time only fee for unlimited Garmin maps for my Nuvi for a reasonable price of $130. I didn't think it was that bad of a deal. Two map updates later, it's already paid for itself. Don't buy the individual map updates. Get the lifetime map upgrade.
- Yankees368, on 10/28/2009, -0/+4I am not knocking the navigation app in any way. I am knocking the map data they are using, which has been on maps.google.com for about 2 weeks now. It was full of mistakes that should not be mistakes.
- hongkongjapie, on 10/28/2009, -0/+4I didn't see any mentioning of it but I wonder, will it work when you're at a spot without (3G) reception?
- Jmaster5590, on 10/29/2009, -1/+5Apple just **** their pants
- prab, on 10/28/2009, -0/+4Just goto maps.google.com, right click, report a problem. (Looks like you can only do it from Map view, not satalite)
- puzzud, on 10/28/2009, -0/+4I don't know about that statement, though. I sold cell phones for a while--and it was very hard to convince someone to add navigation features to their service... granted all I did mostly was activate and upgrade lines (which people seldom want to load features before getting the activation fees or getting used to the phone, etc).
There are still going to be alot of people who don't want to use their phone and just want a standalone device in the car that can stay plugged in at all times.
GPS devices in phones vary in quality, whereas when you get a TomTom, you are guaranteed a decent reception, as that's its main function.
The best thing about a dedicated GPS device is the preloaded maps. And sure, you don't have to pay for map upgrades now, but you pay for it in the time it takes for the area map to download (even if you have good data coverage at the time). If Android's GPS/maps app caches map images smartly, I'll definitely consider using this as my "save the day" GPS device. I don't trust the current app enough to call it that. - Yankees368, on 10/28/2009, -0/+4maps.google.com is not in beta.
- huntermaclean, on 10/28/2009, -2/+5can't wait until Steve incorporates this into CyanogenMod...
- zydeco, on 10/28/2009, -0/+3Yup. Now instead of $70 a year to Garmin, you get to pay $70 a month to Verizon. Sounds like a deal to me.
- Algan, on 10/28/2009, -1/+4"TomTom and Garmin are going out of business."
No they are not. GPS devices are used in many more situations than just on the road, when you have 3G coverage. - puzzud, on 10/28/2009, -0/+3Although, for what I've seen of the iPhone's TomTom app, it looked pretty slick.
But... I love my Android phone!
The Droid family is probably gonna be huge. I hope it gives AT&T / Apple a run for their money. - LilRabbitFooFoo, on 10/28/2009, -0/+3Blackberry support when?
- borez, on 10/28/2009, -0/+3 I was doing a lot of touring around festivals this summer and we had one on the tour bus, and I swear it was taking us down some of the wackiest routes to get places.
It was almost like it was programmed to take us on the most scenic route along the country lanes a lot of the time. - jbmcb, on 10/28/2009, -0/+3Right now, the iPhone is pretty much entrenched. To beat the iPhone, Droid is going to have to be *much* better. Easier, better service, cheaper, better apps, the works. Comparable isn't going to cut it. Free navigation is nice, but it had better be damned easy to use or it will be pretty much worthless.
The ease of use thing is key, if it's clunky to use most people aren't going to give it a second look. That's what kills most up-and-coming iPod/iPhone killers - the BlackBerry Storm comes to mind. My mom figured out the iPhone in about two minutes without looking at a manual, and she can barely figure out a new remote control.
/ Uses the cheapest cell phone Samsung makes
// Could give a crap about owning the iPhone or the Droid - forcedfx, on 10/28/2009, -0/+3This would explain why my house address has mysteriously moved to the other side of the neighborhood.
- roijen, on 10/29/2009, -0/+2Hold up on that one. Small aviation (single props) which use Garmin systems are not selling that hot right now either.
- AlyxVance, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2***** awesome!
- Karai, on 10/29/2009, -0/+2@puzzud That is what I keep trying to tell people when they freak out about "big brother is watching". I'm quite content with Google knowing enough about me to give me ads I care about, rather than all those LOCAL GIRLS WANT SEX NOW!!! or MAKE YOUR OWN ZWINKY!!! ads. Statistical information is not that big of a deal. if ads start saying "Hey, [name] who lives at [address] and works at [company], you should buy our product!" then I'll get my tinfoil hat (and shot gun). But until then, relevant ads ftw!
Also, according to my father, Google Chrome (you know, that open source software where anyone can examine the code) sends personal information directly to Google super secret and stuff! *sigh* - agitpropre, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2I was going to buy a Garmin 305 watch/GPS to track my running...but CardioTrainer on my Magic does the same stuff for free. And now this....bye bye Garmin.
- hongkongjapie, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2Feeling paranoid?
- willdelaney, on 10/29/2009, -0/+2I think he's lost
- Yankees368, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2Yes. They take it from many platforms, too. There is an option to let google take info from my pre, though I have it turned off (to save battery).
- Mateo2, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2That's why it's voice enabled.
- HurricaneDC, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2It wouldn't be anti-competitive if those ***** at TomTom didn't charge you nearly $200 to get an iPhone app and a car dock. At those prices I can either buy a standalone, or just skip it all together and go for the cheaper (AKA FREE) product.
- XFLOP20, on 10/29/2009, -0/+2What he said.
- lexluthor5, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2Is it indeed even an option to download the maps to your phone?
- smoger, on 10/28/2009, -0/+2crossing my fingers that 2.0 makes it to the G1. i know that any update could be the last!
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