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- djstoop, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22Some people just don't erase them. like me.
- dontbejack, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14The whole point of having that much space is so you never have to delete anything, just like djstoop said.
- ewithrow, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Like a logarithmic curve fit? That wouldn't be very useful, as the graph is clearly linear. Google most likely decides when to change the rate arbitrarily, so a logarithmic curve wouldn't give any extra information.
- fritts1227, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Im guessing more than 10% of gmail users use 100MB+
- TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12"760 (5 members and 755 guests)"
ahaha - dilivion, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Yes, it does appear to be the combination of two linear plots. However I would assume that the rate depends on the price of storage space and the popularity of Gmail (the rate at which people subscribe). Of course Google can change the rate arbitrarily but it is the kind of variable I'd expect (naively maybe) to follow an exponential distribution like Moore's law - Intel can change the rate arbitrarily too. That's why I'd like to see a log plot. Maybe it would be clearer if we had a larger sample timewise... I guess only time will tell :)
- zone, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I do delete the useless ones.. I just don't like to see them, but I set it to automatically forward every received email to another "backup" account.. just in case.
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8You've been infected with an exploit that is advertising mediahug.com in your digg messages. Check your greasemonkey scripts or sth
- ewithrow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10That's an interesting idea. Although one might argue that storage space (like transistor count ala Moore's law) should _increase_ exponentially as technology advances.
Also, I bet that the majority of Google accounts use less than 5% of their storage capacity, so it wouldn't be fair to say the Gmail servers have 3000 MB * [Number of accounts] space available. The limit is more of a "promise". Adding more fog to the mix, I have a feeling Gmail probably uses some type of compression on email, which would reduce the actual storage space of account data by about 50%. - Agret, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Actually gmail's interface is more advanced than hotmail or yahoo's.
- ewithrow, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10That's a valid point, and clearly demonstrates Google's ingenuity. However, people have tried to hit the limit and it's very clear that those who need the whole 3 GB do receive it.
- tennman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning, Koshak?
Lighten up, buddy. - nene7070, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8lol i just thought of that- that alone could impact the gmail storage space:)
- whalesalad, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8What sucks is that the sites DB is down and it runs VBulliten, so now for every single failed DB connection VBulliten is going to send an email to the admin. The Digg effect x2?
- ewithrow, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Sorry, didn't know this was going to go front page... my server probably isn't up to the challange. As pointed out above there is a mirror here:
http://www.epicconstructions.com/mirror/gmail2/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Mirrored:
http://www.epicconstructions.com/mirror/gmail2/ - supert0ad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5the point in giving more is that it's a marketing gimmick. if iverybody is using 200megs, and they suddenly say that you can have 5gigs, it doesn't cost them anything because everybody still only has 200megs. regarding the compression that they use, if you download all attachments to an email, they come as a zip. also, i imagine that if you send an email to 10 people on gmail, their servers only store one copy of it, and just mirror it to all the recipients
- nene7070, on 10/12/2007, -3/+81050 guests
1 member...
now 1232 guests, 1 member, and it promptly crashed for me - BenHMin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Well, it's interesting to note that my online storage space on google's servers has slowed in its meteoric rise toward 3GB, but I'm not worried . . .
The fact is, once you have one gmail account, you've got effectively unlimited storage. You can always invite yourself to another one!
If you did somehow manage to fill your primary email account with actual messages, you could forward all the old ones to the auxiliary gmail accounts. If you're looking to just store attachments, pictures, etc. then you can just as easily upload them to separate gmail accounts bensstorage.music01@gmail.com, bensstorage.music02@gmail.com, bensstorage.pictures01@gmail.com, bensstoragedocuments@gmail.com . . . ad nauseum. Not that I have those email accounts, so go for 'em if they're available.
To me, it seems like if you're just storing email, you'll never reach 3GB anyway, and with multiple accounts you can pretty much store whatever you want. - drlog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I dont think that is short sighted. It makes perfect sense that they would reach 3GB on April 1st 2008.
This isnt a graph of some natural phenomenon. This is a graph of a human decided variable. There is obvious linear growth there and I would expect it to continue at that rate (unless segate make another anouncement like that new HDD!) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5OR...maybe it will happen In the Year 2000! like on Conan.
(Hate to tell you, but you've apparently been in a coma for at least 4 months. January 2006 happened awhile ago.) - empath, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm on a single conversational e-mail list and I hit 100% several weeks ago and have had to start deleting older messages (particularly ones with attachments). For awhile, gmail was comfortably ahead, but in the past 9 months or so, they really seem to have slowed their expansion of the quota.
- ElGuano, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Dugg. I suspected this was would happen, but it's nice to see someone went to the effort to track it!
Here's betting Google is just laying low until there's a reason to jump the rate - maybe in Jan 2006 they'll have a "new years gift" of increasing all mailboxes to 3.0gb, or as a response to whenever WLM/Kahuna or the Yahoo ajax mail beta are released. - TheIconster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The only reason Google is increasing it by such a small amount of space is due to extensions such as GSpace an d people using their Gmail accounts as small servers. They can't compress the attachments as well as plain mail, and if they allowed more space ( 5 or 10 gigs ) , there servers would be overrun with videos, music, things that are not just text e-mail and pictures, etc.
- Takumi, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8It was damn obvious they didn't have UNLIMITED storage space.
They're not just increasing it at any rate, they have a predefined ammount of space, they're just releasing it slowly, and they adapt the speed at which is will reach 3gb, they don't jsut hope it will reach it, its all precalculated - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm using almost 30% of mine, I only delete the spam that it catches and anything I mark as spam. Everything else is saved. One never knows when you will need it.
- quinnk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I'm using 780 MB (29%) of my 2715 MB... I'm sure there are many others using this amount or more. My Gmail inbox receives mail from four seperate forwarders.
However, I do a fair bit of design work... if I displayed all emails under that label, and then went through and deleted everything, I suspect I'd free up a good 10%. - d03boy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You're a "fanboyism word user" fanboy, aren't you? Hey, look how I can say fanboy in every Digg story there is.
- themajor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Which aspects of the interface would you be talking about? For example would you be referring to the use of folders instead of labels so you don't have that pesky problem of classifying e-mails under two headings?
- teddziuba, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3GMail will probably never hit 3GB. Why can't anyone else see that it's approaching e*10^3 = 2718.28183...?
- link1922, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree, it makes much more sense for google to expand their storage at a rate proportional to its usage. If the average user is using 200megs of their space, whats the point in giving more?
- vndr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I do care-my gmail is now over 95% and I have to delete stuff every few weeks to get more free free space.Try sending mp3's via email or photos through picasa....
- Maskawanian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You are currently using 1451 MB (53%) of your 2715 MB.
I hope I can get more space soon :p - spacebar14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://www.yousendit.com
- RamezaniK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Here's the deal. When Google first announced they are going to provide infinite email storage and that the amount will continuously increase, they also mentioned the amount will increase as a logarithmic function of time. Yes, the **current** rate of storage increase may be 4 bytes per second (or whatever it is), but that rate decreases every second. That's why when google decided to increase storage from 1GB, you hit the 2GB mark **a lot** faster than we are hitting the 3GB mark. Logarithmic functions grow much faster in the beginning, and practically stop growing after a certain point. You'll know what I'm talking about if you've taken Calculus.
Oh, and if whoever made that graph grabbed a few more plot points, you would see that you could fit a log curve to the points. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I agree. there are several new technologies in storage coming out now that promise huge harddrives. I think that as these come to market, we will see a third linear plot come in with a steep slope.
- imightbewrong, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3i doubt they are very methodical in the adding of space.. why should they be? Another thnig to consider is hardware costs, in two years everything they buy now will be cheaper so they'll get bigger stuff for the sme price, i think the graph should include that fact
- davidswelt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the marketing trick might not be that lame.. while it focuses on something people don't NEED, it does focus on something people WANT. And I reckon that's more important when marketing to consumers who make their choices based on a gut-feeling.
- toastguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Aw man, i wish they kept the original rate of growth.
At 3.3 MB per day, we'd have almost 6 gigs by April '08. Sweeet... - theone3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Eheh. Newsflash. Planet = Blue.
- Hamana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1that is the most interesting story i have read on here since some time.
- sykesa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I still have lots of space in my account so not really worried ;-D But we all knew they couldn't keep adding space at the rate they where because they would never be able to handle all of that storage.
- doyadigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2They probably control it more along the lines of what people actually use. I'm sure they just project what they need plus a small percentage and go with that. I'm sure their average user is only using a few megs when you figure how many people just signed up but barely use it.
- spacebar14, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"One never knows when you will need it."
Do I really need forum new post notification emails? No. Didn't think so. - ewithrow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5It seems the plan has changed.
- Nukem945, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is assuming they actually DO have enough storage space to match 2.7+ GB per gmail account... I could see them making an educated estimate of how much space they ACTUALLY need, based on the current rate that people use gmail and the rate new accounts are created. Maybe they only need, on average, enough space for everyone to fill 25% of their gmail accounts.
I admit, I have 5 or 6 accounts for myself. Mostly as backups or spam (website sign-up) accounts, or for secondary storage of notes and other files. But those other ones are nearly empty. Who says Google ever needs to have as much space as they promise at any one time. It's kinda like a bank. They don't actually have enough money to cover everyone, if we suddenly were to withdraw all our cash. But that should never happen, just like we will never reach anywhere near 100% usage of all gmail accounts. - yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yes that is true that males like to play violent games. Males are violent. Males are original war crime. Females must dominate the green planet.
- Korun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Its gonna be sooner than 2008, the 2gb mark was less than a year ago, and its already at like 2770 mb right now. i predict 2007.
- gylgamesh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have to correct my post above! Of course it should read
"Sat 2006.07.01 02:46:00 UTC"
and NOT
"Sat 2007.07.01 02:46:00 UTC"
* * *
Now a newer benchmark:
from
Thu 2006.06.29 13:46:00 UTC to
Mon 2006.07.31 02:46:00 UTC = 757 hours (32 days - 11 hours)
GMAIL Mailbox capacity increased from
2739.249302 MB to
2749.564562 MB showing a
capacity growth of 10.31526 MB in 757 hours.
That is 0.0136264993 MB increase per hour, which is almost exactly what I measured before, only this time I submit all the digits.
Using that figure GMAIL will have a 3000 MB Mailbox in 18,378.56 hours from today's measurement.
That is 765 days, 18 hours, 33 minutes and 36,8 seconds making it Wednesday the 3rd of September 2008 21:19:37 if my calculations aren't wrong.
If you have the time calculate the date when GMAIL will reach 3 GB (3072 MB) of storage. - sharkyl, on 10/24/2007, -0/+0Looks like you were wrong. And it only took three months, not even a year. Ouch. That's what you get for predicting what Google will do I guess.
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