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- breezy, on 10/11/2007, -5/+204Unfortunately most other email services won't even handle 20mb attachments. At least for now we can have some gmail on gmail 20mb action.....and if others follow suit like they did with overall email storage space, then we should be seeing larger attachments all around pretty soon.
- Dejital, on 10/11/2007, -9/+178Next Step: Let us send zip files :(
- Salgat, on 10/11/2007, -8/+129Screw Yahoo and their "unlimited" offer. I'll never use all of the 3GB that Gmail offers, but I will however be able to fill 20MB in attachments, far above Yahoo's offer.
- jus1haz2, on 10/11/2007, -5/+97Sweet, that 10mb limit was getting annoying.
- jjesusfreak01, on 10/11/2007, -7/+81On a whim, I tried sending myself a file tonight that was 14 MB, fully expecting that it would not work. Imagine my surprise when it went through.
- Bitruder, on 10/11/2007, -7/+77I think we'd run out of phone numbers pretty quickly.
- lieutenantmudd, on 10/11/2007, -4/+74You know what Google product I want to see next? I want Google Talk to give you a phone number like Vonage, but for free. I figure they can play an ad every time you pick up the phone to call out. Incoming calls are free for VoIP providers, it's the outgoing calls that cost two or three cents to connect. A targeted audio ad is easily worth 3 cents.
- Ozzy73, on 10/11/2007, -0/+69@Dejital (#6823337)
You currently can. Just have to change the filename a bit from like File.zip to file.zip.hahasucker This also works with other blocked extensions.
If you dont want to use that method you can just .rar the file - adrenaline33, on 10/11/2007, -8/+63Or you could shut up and do your job
- bloaty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+50That may be happening sooner than you think!
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/05/phone-calls-in-google-talk.html - zakharm, on 10/11/2007, -3/+49How many times will Firefox time out until I reach 20mb?
- leth4l, on 10/11/2007, -3/+47I personally would like to see them incorporate 30fps video teleconferencing into google talk.
- Guspaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+34It's hardly GMail's fault that no (or few?) other mail services match their attachment size limits.
I would imagine that this will significantly cut down on overhead (and improve efficiency of) GMail storage-related applications such as GMailFS or GMail Drive.
GMailFS uses a virtual filesystem, so doesn't have file size limits, but GMail Drive is strictly one-file-one-attachment (a significantly less efficient method), so at the very least it doubles the max file size you can store with GMail Drive.
None of the current GMail filesystem applications seem to be ideal implementations though (GMailFS's creator admits that using subjects for metadata was a bad idea, and GMailDrive's approach is severely limiting), so the possibility of significant improvement in such third-party utilities is quite exciting! - adrenaline33, on 10/11/2007, -2/+33haha at what point does everything become free and then google realizes they have no one to pay them for advertising anymore because they do EVERYTHING
- Bitruder, on 10/11/2007, -1/+30Works fine for me.
- AngelBunny, on 10/11/2007, -1/+30.r00 .r01 .r02 .r03 .....they fit. and to think of the possibilities.
- nlogax, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22What? I've sent tons of zip files without renaming them, never had a problem. Is it the web client only that has this restriction, perhaps?
- jus1haz2, on 10/11/2007, -5/+24No u didnt and I doubt your upload would send 5Gb in a reasonable amount of time.
- abcdefghij, on 10/11/2007, -11/+27Good news! With Moore's Law taken into calculation, within a decade we can expect conversations like this:
"dude, have you seen Jenna Jameson's "Granny Jenna Swallows" ?
"no"
"then, I'll just Gmail it out to ya, it's only 0.8 GB so it won't fill up your wigwamilion bytes account" - M4v3R, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17Gmail DO accept .zip files. But also it scans the contents of a zip file and if a restricted file (.exe and such) is found, the attachment will be discarded. However, like guys above said, it recognizes files by their extension, not contents so you can rename file extension and send the file just fine.
- a5ph, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19It's no real use..
I use Google Groups heavily. Its maximum attachment size is.. still 1 freaking MB.
Come on Google you can do better!!!! - Avalontor, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15and yet it's still Beta.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18ARrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh , Ye Matessssssssss.
Who needs peer to peer? - bloaty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12You can just use iChat or any other client that supports Jabber!
http://www.tuaw.com/2005/08/23/how-to-set-up-google-talk-on-your-mac/
And Leopard's iChat 4 supports it too!
http://digg.com/apple/Google_Talk_in_iChat_4_0 - Rikki7, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12The 10MB attachment limit has got me out of trouble a number of times when my own work email couldn't handle it. The upgrade to 20MB is going to be a real life saver when I occasionally have to get big files out in a hurry.
- Pensador, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12@Dejital:
"Gmail allows you to send and receive zipped attachments, as long as they don't contain executable (.exe) files. Gmail rejects all executable files as a security measure to block potential viruses."
Source: http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=9481&query=attachments&topic=0&type=f&ctx=en:search
Wow, I didn't know that...! - PixelVision, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14I use Pando for large file transfers, which obviously wont be used by everyone, so the increase is definitely welcome.
- DrDabbles, on 10/11/2007, -7/+18And still, my gateway server will reject your email if it's larger than 4096K. SMTP is NOT a file transfer protocol. A 20Mbyte attachment can blow up to well over 40Mbytes of transferred data on an email server because of encoding. If you want to send me a file, use a drop box service or send me the original link. IT People of the world, UNITE! Stop this senseless abuse once and for all! :-D
- robinator08, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Now I can send those 15,000,000 byte files of mine!
- jerwood, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Awesome!
Now where's the frickin' IMAP!
-me - dqderrick, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Anyone know if this applies to Google Apps for Your Domain (GAYD) accounts? I googled for it and checked google.com/a and couldn't find anything.
- fakkedap, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11@ Ozzy73
Or you can just rename it to something like .zi_. That works with any file, in fact. - j4200, on 10/11/2007, -7/+14whats the problem with this man's gripe? he has a huge point. people need to learn that attachments should be for attached documents at most. Email is not made to send fresh off the camera albums of gigantic lame pictures or every chain letter that you received that day. If you need to send files bigger, post it somewhere and link it, that way it's not traveling redundantly through server after server.
- jhshukla, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7unless you are only sending files, attach first and then write the message. gmail uploads the attachment in background so FF (or any AJAX capable browser for that matter) won't time out before the attachment is completed.
- theWrkncacnter, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9just rename the file, it's really not that hard
- j4200, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6there are other ways to display a progress bar. they just require a ton of server overhead.
- lolgamoff, on 10/11/2007, -10/+15"At least for now we can have some gmail on gmail 20mb action"
sounds hot. - kalleanka, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I have also had many zip files bouncing, and it pisses me off a lot.
But I'm not sure if it's because it unzipped it and detected it contained an .exe file or if it was just the fact that it was a .zip file. - diversionmary, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I went from 12mb, to 10mb, to 8mb to 7.5mb to a 5mb nazi... then to 20mb knock yourself out, I'm tired of explaining why email isn't for transferring files. Exim4/exiscan/clamav/spamc setup.
Y'know what finally helped me? Turning off spam and AV scanning of files larger than x. 256K for spam, 8MB for viruses. It's been quite a while now without any problems, and I have desktop/server AV if it does make it past that border.
I find that outlook's default timeout of 1min is incredibly small, and that qpopper/pop3/mbox is a pita to maintain long term for some users. Especially if a blackberry with web access is in the mix (imap/large mbox). - chalkboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6You must be old. 10 megs is nothing. I limit my users to 100 meg files. If you need to send something to a client mailing them a cd is not very efficient either is trying to explain how to use ftp. You need to loosen up. Get with the times.
- muzzamo, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9Am I the only one who finds uploading files to gmail to be extremely unreliable?
Unortunately with a HTTP POST the only way you could have a status bar would be to use flash. AFAIK there is no other way in modern browsers.
Google use flash to play audio in gmail, I wonder if they could provide a progress bar that gracefully degrades to a standard http POST when flash is not present.
It certainly seems their policy to go with flash only when it is absolutely needed. - leetdood, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4A new Gmail Scene?
Who needs IRC anymore!?! - j4200, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Progress bars put incredible overhead on the server and really aren't needed unless you've got anxiety problems. Its easy enough to check if the browser is still sending data if you really must know
- BalooUrsidae, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4The nice thing about Jabber is that it doesn't have to be Google that provides the service. Just sign up with a Jabber to Phone transport and it doesn't matter if you're getting your Jabber on from GT or elsewhere.
We're all pullin for ya! - leetdood, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4See above comments, where EVERYBODY tells you to rename it. GMail doesn't want you to send viruses around on their network.
- WallnutBoy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Ahahah.. You said GAY'D! xD
- armbar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Not necessarily a ton of server overhead--it's just a periodic Ajax call--but you do have to configure the server so that processing starts at the beginning of a request, and not when it's completed.
- d3bruts1d, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4About time! Can't say I need the full 20M, but there have been many times when I needed to send a 12 or 15M file.
- SocialPoison, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@lieutenantmudd
Can you imagine Google doing audio targeted ads? I think their accuracy with the text ads has been pretty crazy (e.g. I had an e-mail about the Renu contact cleaner recall and the ticker ad I got above the e-mail was for a lawyer who could help you seek payment for damages if you'd been injured by the cleaner).
Think about that... you jokingly have a conversation talking like Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs and get an audio ad for moisturizer next time you talk.... - Omeganon, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3This may be great for using Gmail as file storage but it's not so great for actually sending attachments to other users. E-Mail was _never_ intended to be a file transfer service. That's what FTP is/was for. When you send your binary attachment in e-mail it is converted to plain text for transfer, usually increasing it's size 2-3 times. Your 20MB attachment is now 40-60MB in transit, while sitting in your friends mailbox and while they're downloading it. It is also that larger size that is used to evaluate transfer limits and quotas.
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