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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+113Yeah and never play a decent game ever again.
- Alegis, on 10/12/2007, -8/+58No. You should know by now that is not a correct method to shutdown a computer.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -5/+43And check disk everytime you boot up.
- Rmplstltskn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+35OR, leaving it on will never allow it to cool down and will decrease the life of various parts and the heat will decrease performance.
- rebz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+38wait, you guys shut down your computer?
- Ahnteis, on 10/12/2007, -23/+49Actually, every linux install I've tried takes longer to shutdown (with -now) then my windows install.
Here's a better trick for you:
1) Use the power button instead of start->shutdown.
2) Set the power button to hibernate instead of shutting down. Your "boot" times will be faster then before too! - Alaerus, on 10/12/2007, -9/+35This has always been an interesting topic, and recently my Linux Admin. teacher shed some light on the subject for me.
Inside a PC are alot of metal parts. The difference in teperature from running (heat) and being shut off (cool) causes the metals to expand and contract. Doing this alot can ultimately lead to the failing of various PC parts.
That said, it is a good idea to leave your PC on. - TehSuper, on 10/12/2007, -7/+30Linux takes 10x the time to start up and shut down.
- rushfan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23I don't blame you and I found a link straight from Microsoft.com
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1B286E6D-8912-4E18-B570-42470E2F3582&displaylang=en - pauldonnelly, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21RTFA, you morons. You may not be afflicted by this problem, but that doesn't mean that no one else is. Sometimes a program *which has exited*, meaning that it has nothing to do with tray apps, won't have cleaned up right, so the system waits and waits for it to do so. Of course, it never does, since the culprit is long gone. This fixes that.
- fr34k5h0w, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Yay! i love watching in real time as processes are killed, drives unmounted, services stopped. Nothing like showing your love for linux in a windows story comment section!
- fr34k5h0w, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Way to be on topic there. I smell flame bait...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18hiberanation is greta but you still have to reboot sometime.. this article isnt about hibernation nor is it about discussing the differnces in the two. You cant just hibernate after a critical update.
- idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Linux isn't designed to be rebooted. It's supposed to run continuously.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Actually, this is a requirement for Win2k and 2k3 servers. Especially when you are trying to shut things down in an hurry. Back in the day we would see shutdown times that would take close to 30 minutes! After this was installed that all went away.
Of course once has to ask why it was so screwed up in the first place that something like that was necessary. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I guess either you type insanly slow or maybe you didnt think anyone had the wit to say that before now in this comment section or maybe you didnt notice CharlesDarwin with his -24 diggs at the top.
- jinexile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Thats not a very good "best practice" if an error is encountered while shutdown is happening it could very well be halted and someone could use your login to gain access to company resources.
- stomicron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12To quote CBTF (in response to someone else who, like you, thought they were being clever):
"Yeah and never play a decent game ever again." - paradoxic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Hybernation doesn't fully clear our RAM and cache. It is not a replacement for rebooting.
- dotorg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Just a warning: this service has been known in the industry to cause VERY weird and nearly impossible to track down problems with software. The reason? It tends to be buggy and occasionally close handles to registry entries that programs are still using.
If you install it and start getting any weird behavior from your programs, the odds are thats whats happening. - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11What about:
shutdown -s -t -f -u
>BOOM< headshot - wingschicken, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12They actually had it on their website...but now the blog article changed and it is gone....but the direct link still works he he he
http://www.intelliadmin.com/profileclean.msi
They were probably worrried about legal problems... - jedipimp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Not true if i manually close peerguardian before i shutdown my shutdown time is maybe 15 seconds if i leave it running before i shutdown 2-3 mins is the norm. I only run a few other apps so its sometimes how an ap is coded to run which can cause your pc problems
- freakyspook, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I have been using this for a few months now, it does improve shutdown and also stops errors in the eventlogs.
A few of the networks i have deployed it on has really made a significant difference in shutdown times, especially for shared pc's - sinembarg0, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Thank you from a "non-genuine Windows" user.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Noone is talking about hibernating and not everyone has their power button set up to hibernate..
hibernating is cool for what it is used for but it pointless in this discussion. We are talking about rebooting and even if you hibernate you have to restart sometimes.. but heck you could just use the "blank" scrennsaver and move the mouse, instant boot.. thing is you dint boot nuthin.. yeah i know hibernation saves power but it still isnt rebooting. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8My pc shuts down right away usually.. just gotta keep everything tuned up!
- DocDEB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I would just like Windows to startup fast. I don't care how fast it shuts down... cause... well... it's shutting down and by then I half way out of my office.
- solidcube, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Ya know, you were right and I was wrong. It says "stand by," "turn off" and "restart." And shiftclicking standby does indeed make it hibernate in about 5 seconds.
- someguy5, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Since it's actually a Microsoft service, how about getting it from them? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1B286E6D-8912-4E18-B570-42470E2F3582&displaylang=en
- Peat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I've used this in a Citrix farm. We were having issues with roaming profiles breaking. This fixed the problem.
I hate to disagree with the story, but I don't think it'll make a difference in shut down times for 99% of Windows users. Inacurrate. - mkaplan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Direct Download link to Microsoft, no validation required...sick
http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/8/7/a87b3d05-cd04-4743-a23b-b16645e075ac/UPHClean-Setup.msi - Neticule, on 10/12/2007, -15/+20"Get the free profile hive cleanup service and start shutting down in seconds...instead of minutes"
I know, for a fact, that it has never taken MINUTES for my pc to shut down, if it takes you several minutes to shut down your pc, then you really, really need to take a few minutes and remove the 100 items loaded into your system tray.
It takes probably about 6-7 seconds for my pc to shut down/restart... - mandidp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yeah...you do that, i'll stick to shutting down and leaving the room since i won't be using the computer anyway.
- shortyzgotpop, on 10/12/2007, -13/+18If you want to shut down fast without using any new program, just hold Shift at the windows shut down menu, and click Hibernate. This is a little known but great feature of XP. Shuts down and starts up in about 10 seconds.
- Recluse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I tried this a while ago when I was having problems with long shutdown times, it didn't work. I found my problem was system restore. I scaled the amount of space it used to restore down and everything was fine.
- sclozza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm referring to all the people offering this as an idea (yanking the cord). We get it the picture.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7The kiddies with their illegitimate copies are scared of validating.
- CornStarch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Now the question to split the community down the middle, which is better, laving your PC on or shutting it down?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Holy crap, it worked!
I've been using the same install of XP since 2001, and logging in and out my profile has been taking minutes to complete. Not anymore. Logout time was reduced from over a minute to a few seconds, and login time is a lot faster, too. Great stuff! - digitaldivider, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It takes me a minute or two to shutdown because of logitech's badly coded processes for the G15 keyboard I own. windows has to kill 2-3 services associated with the lcd monitor on the keyboard. then I have a small shut down script designed to remove temporary internet files at shut down in order to get a faster boot time. In all reality I don't give a ***** about the time it takes to shut down, when I shut down my computer, it's either because of an update or because I'm done using it for a while. I turn off my speakers and monitor and the let pc shut down on it's own. boot times are all I care about.
- Trenton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Shutting down, what about booting up?
- m00nmaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Here's the answer from MS themselves.
"The User Profile Hive Cleanup service helps to ensure user sessions are completely terminated when a user logs off." - anon52, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I usually have 5-10 apps running when it's time to go nighty-night, or to pack my 'pute for a trip somewhere. I can go into standby for maybe 12 hours under battery power, but for longer periods or going through airport scanners, I'd rather be in hibernate (all memory is written to disk).
My apps can include some esoteric stuff that has a long startup time or a log of environmental fiddling. I regularly have various Visual Studio, Eclipse,VMWare (with Linux and Windows guests) running when I want to shut down.
This method has worked for me for several years without any problems. Oh, my startup takes around 1 minute and shutdown around 30 seconds (when I bother to do these things.) - Oriqui, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My friend and I bicker on whether Windows or Linux is better. Both have equal perks and down sides, though I do wish, in high school, instead of forcing Windows on us, they would teach both.
- Prophasi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Agreed w/ anon52 -- I've never used Hibernate for the desktop (and probably never will), but it's great for laptops. Standby power only lasts for so long, and if you're in the middle of a project that requires a lot of stuff to be open, it's a snap to hibernate. You know the data's safe from battery failure, and it's way easier to regain my focus when Windows comes back up with everything right where I left it.
I just have the laptop hibernate when I close the lid. - Sidnak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I actually have used this before. Works well.
- m00nmaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It doesn't run on Linux. We told you that already.
- dahood, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I've been using uphclean (User profile hive cleanup service) for months, it works really well. Make sure you read "readme.txt".
Look at the eventviewer for this type of message.
"The following handles in user profile hive centrinoAdministrator have been closed because they were preventing the profile from unloading successfully:
svchost.exe (948)
HKCU (0x240) -
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