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- hambend, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27To be fair, you can't really say Google has it in for open source. This was an intellectual property thing, and Google was the liable party.
Super stoked Gaia is alive again, though. I'm a software engineer working on GPS software, and this thing will be absolutely invaluable. - Xilon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13You compile the source code ;) Much easier to install under linux.
- netcrusher88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13No. All of NASA's data is public domain, primarily from the Landsat satellites, and the elevation is a combination of radar scans from the space shuttle and good old-fashioned surveying. Note Google also uses this data, at least the elevation data. Publicly available USGS information.
- deathray, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15The one good reason to not use Google Earth.
"Google Earth Free is licensed for Home/Personal use. As such it cannot be used in a work environment, or at home where the results are work related. In fact, the way the license is worded, and if knowledge is considered a benefit, then you are in breach of contract and therefore breaking the law if you use Google Earth Free or Plus to find somewhere for your friends to buy a coffee, or tell them the distance between your house and theirs. Google Earth has been banned in several government agencies because of the terms of use.
NASA World Wind has very open terms of use. Basically anyone can use it, for any reason, from any location. Copyright of code and images still applies, but there is no restriction on using the application."
Quoted from http://www.worldwindcentral.com/wiki/Google_Earth_comparison - Snoopsor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14@zouden
Try using World Wind on a linux, bsd, or mac pc..You can't (please feel free to correct me if you can hack wine to install .net and other compatibility requirements to get it to go). Currently World Wind is windows only, so having a open source solution suitable for the rest of the users is fantastic. - netcrusher88, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14um, no. The original Gaia did crack Google Earth, Google's software engineer asked them to stop because they were violating Google's contract with their providers, and Gaia complied.
Or is it possible that you understood this and you are simply too much of an inarticulate fool to express that? - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Anyone have the compiled code for Linux, Win32 or OS X as a universal?
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"Apparently Google thinks it owns 3D maps."
Huh? It's Google's suppliers that think they own their maps. Google don't own any special maps. Well, could be that one above their campus and a few others, not sure about those. - zouden, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Why not just use World Wind? It's also open source.
- Serinox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10open source wins again!
- jongens, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8That was some quick coding. Impressive.
- johnsto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I stand corrected. Ta!
- megaloid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8You port it.
- wintermute0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Until you get past the 'Wait, where's my exe? Panic!' part, I think you're stuck with gEarth...
- stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It should build on os x, if you have the dev tools installed (Xcode and fink).
"Building & Installation
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To build gaia, you need:
- SCons (http://www.scons.org)
- cURL library (http://curl.haxx.se)
- SDL library (http://www.libsdl.org)
- jpeg library (http://www.ijg.org)
- png library (http://libpng.sourceforge.net)
- libgps (http://gpsd.berlios.de) - optional
Once you obtain all of these, just run in this directory:
% scons
This will build gaia and produce binar(y/ies) runnable from current
directory.
If you want systemwide installation of gaia, you should explicitly
provide prefix and specify install target:
% scons prefix=/usr/local install
This will build gaia and install binaries into /usr/local/bin/ and
data files into /usr/local/share/gaia/. You can change path suffixes:
% scons prefix=/usr/local bindir=bin/gaia datadir=data/gaia install
Now, binaries will be installed into /usr/local/bin/gaia/ and data
files into /usr/local/data/gaia/
" - GravisZro, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7you wipe your hard drive and install linux.
- emelgeek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I give Google the credit here, that IF what you're saying is true, there's a very good reason that they would be asking it's removal. Though having read the first (very nicely written) C & D Letter sent to the GAIA Developer, i don't think they would tell them to take it down this time, since the only concern they raised is the "reverse engineering" of the satellite/maps data that Google has licensed and the publication of these methods.
Apparently you failed to read or understand what Google really said in its letter sent to the GAIA Developers, since you concluded that "Google thinks it owns 3D Maps"... - BullTaco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I do not see this in my 4.0.2091 version.
No mention of gaining knowledge for non commercial use being prohibited. Finding your friends some coffee is not considered commercial use.
You might argue that it is commercial use for the benefit of Starbucks but that is a really ambiguous interpretation of the wording and thus would be non enforceable due to this dead language term:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra_proferentem
1. USE OF SOFTWARE
The Software is made available to you for your personal, non-commercial use only. You may not use the Software or the geographical information made available for display using the Software, or any prints or screen outputs generated with the Software in any commercial or business environment or for any commercial or business purposes for yourself or any third parties. You may not use the Google Software in any manner that could damage, disable, overburden, or impair Google's services (e.g., you may not use the Google Software in an automated manner), nor may you use Software in any manner that could interfere with any other party's use and enjoyment of Google's services. - omnithought, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I don't see any installer in the download...anyone kow how this works?
- stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"You port it."
Why is this guy at +6? You don't need to port anything. It compiles fine under OS X, or any *nix. - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Standard OpenSource elitist mentality I'm guessing...
Google Earth will continue to win until the OS community realises that noone wants to "compile" anything (noone even wants to know what the word "compile" means - give us an install) - stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OS X PPC Tiger binary here:
http://www.bigupload.com/d=161A0BC8
Wait the 25 seconds or so it says for the download link. Extract this to where ever you want it. Open up an X11 terminal and execute this with
$ ./gala
I can't make a universal. Unfortunately it's is problematic with scons to make os x universal binaries at the moment. - macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=20615&d=1165361089
installs just fine on Edgy - stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Okay just installed it in PPC Linux. Works great. The map detail is not quite like google earth. And it is just a raw map of course, no neat little highways and hotel marks. This image is about as much detail as you get, looking at major cities:
http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/graphics/screenshots/02.jpg
Pretty cool! - macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@stmiller, read the post directly above your post.
- timxpx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@serinox
i thought they only won in the movie 'antitrust' - strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2And by "stuck with" he means that you already have a better, easier to use, free product.
- itisme, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2What's in a name?
they call the software gaia and I immediately want to support it over
google earth or any other mapping system.
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The best reason to support this product is to spread the word/name gaia whilst there is still a planet worth looking at. - BrainCoder, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Money get pwned again. I'm so happy.
- ethernode, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Does it use hardware acceleration?
Can it be embedded? :) - johnsto, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Just like the Google case, if NASA got their satellite images from a number of satellite data providers (you really think NASA got ALL their imagery by themselves?) then exactly the same thing will happen again - those suppliers will get angry, wave their supply contracts around, and NASA will be forced to tell the Gaia club to stop using their data, or face the consequences.
(That sentence is way too long....)
I give it a week before they're told to stop. - trylleklovn, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Now how do i make i work on a mac?
- PaulOwen, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Dugg down by a rabid google fanboy for being anti-google.
- tensvb, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3Earth viewer without google spyware, great!
- harris2004, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4GO Gaia...nobody figured how to crack Google earth anyways..open source wins..just wondering how to run it tho.
- yaosio, on 10/12/2007, -19/+3I was talking to a guy I know at Google and he said they are going to tell them to take it down again. Apparently Google thinks it owns 3D maps.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -19/+2not really!
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