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- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33The C=64 should always be front page...;)
- Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23GEOS > Vista
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18I ran GEOS on my Commodore 64. VERY slick and fun to play with. *thumbs up*
- laserdisc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10GEOS on the C=64 was in my opinion one of the few programming miracles I have ever witnessed.
- Grig, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12GEOS - BAH! I was using the C-64 long before GEOS. I had to write my own word processor to write my school reports on, and I had to walk to school, 30 miles and uphill both ways.
- jdrift, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The first computer that I owned was a Commodore 128, which came loaded with GEOS
and related software. I frequently used its word processor, and marvelled at the possibilities of the GUI, but mostly booted into C-64 mode for such great games as Wasteland, Neuromancer, and Impossible Mission 2 ("Stay a while, stay forever!"). - spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9DESTROY HIM, MY ROBOTS
- EbenieRosa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Finally an OS I can run on my computer1
- PantherX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Geoworks was the bomb, yo!
- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8GEOS was the .... back in the golden days of the C-64... using a combination of 1541 and 1581 drives to allow GEOS to run Word Processing, and Graphics Editors, was amazing for the time.
Along with GEOS was the Grandfather of the Internet... Quantumlink :) - Blazer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I actually used GEOS, especially GeoWrite to do reports for class. It was nice since it was a WYSIWYG editor. I still have the floppies and my Epyx Fastload cartridge :)
- desktopmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7That's a nice throwback. I remember joining AOL and having to install GeoWorks Ensemble to run it. Yes, I said I joined AOL! Hey, it was the early 90's! I had a Prodigy account too!!!
- palmer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8More impressive is that the Atari computers had all of these hardware capabilities years earlier, in 1978. Hardware sprite overlays, redefinable character set, fine scrolling of the entire screen, instruction execution during the horizontal and vertical blanking intervals, co-processors for graphics and sound, even S-video output.
The Apples of the era didn't even have lower-case letters. - tjthayer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@astrotrain
Actually, the Internet was around long before Quantumlink, but Quantumlink did spawn Q-Link, which spawned AOL.
I had my first online "affair" back on Quantumlink in the 80's. She was "16 years old and lived in Virginia Beach". Her name was Cyndi. Of course, now that I'm older and wiser, I realize that "Cyndi" was more likely "Bill", and was 30, overweight, hairy, lived in his mom's basement and played D&D between episodes of Star Trek.
But, I still have fond memories of Bill, uh, I mean Cyndi... - wwaller, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7This post freaks me out...My dad, Bill, was in his 30's living in Virginia Beach in 1987...using Q-Link pretty frequently.
Chilling mental image that is. - mjpatey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5GEOS on C64 was cool! Almost Apple LISA cool.
- StephenCIreland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4the nokia 9110i ran GEOS, it was awsome, i used on until 6 months ago under terminal to admin my sun machine
- Sefirosu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Still have it, even though the box and the materials show their age it still worked last time I checked. I made all my school work on this thing back in the day, it was pretty good for the time.
However, that this was notorious for it's way too good copy protection starting with version 2.0 on the C64. The Apple II version had this part removed (I didn't know that up until recently), but on the C64 all apps were keyed to your boot disk and you had two of these. One of my fabulous (ahem) 1541 drives went out of alignment at some point and almost trashed one of my boot disks, but I wasn't that lucky with a few work disks, some of them became unusable.
You can get an actual copy of GEOS these days "freely", although they state that it is still commercial software, it has been released here:
http://cmdrkey.com/cbm/geos/geos1.html - joeyGibson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I also ran GEOS on my C64 way back in the early 80's. I had a 1541 drive and a but I also had a MOUSE! Hoo hoo. GEOS was the only software I can remember that would even notice the mouse, so it was fun to play with it.
- cosmicrob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I remember GEOS on a Commodore 128.. used a joystick to move the cursor and required infinite patience for the constand disk swapping. But the draw program and word processor were way cool at the time.
- superbenk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think you're talking about Geoworks Ensemble. The original GEOS was for 8-bit computers and was one of the most amazing peices of software I've ever used (considering it's era).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6If Vista were released the same time as GEOS, it would require a C128 (twice the speed of the C64), a 512 KB RAM expansion and two 1581 Floppy drives, minimum.
If GEOS were released at the same time as Vista, it'd do everything Vista does, on an 800MHz PIII, with 64MB of RAM and an 8MB VGA. - adidax, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Oh wow. I haven't heard anything about GEOS since my very first computer. A 286 running DRDos (Digital Research Dos) with GEOS running on top of it. It even had tetris! Oh how i miss the old days...
- paulhruby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I remember running GEOS on my C-64 with Dual 1541's Commodore Mouse....
AND
my FLEXIDRAW LIGHT PEN....
It was amazing 1980's drawing on the screen fun.....haha
Blew all my paper route money on that thing!
I bet you wish you had one.....haha - drysz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4With the Ram expander, GEOS ran very nicely on the C64.
- PaulRay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I had GEOS which I ran (walked?) on my Commodore SX-64.
Yes Portable AND GUI!! The Future Lives! Lived... You know what I mean.
It was slow, but Oh So Cool!
Ah, the 80's
http://oldcomputers.net/sx64.html - joshaidan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I once found a floppy that said, "GEOS" on it for the C64 I owned at the time. Wasn't sure what it was, so I put it in and after 15 minutes or so of loading I had a GUI... which would load stuff off the floppy again every five or so minues, causing me to sit there and wait.
Things were fun back then!
Brian. - fustanella, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Loved my GEOS-based Tandy Zoomer. Pocket fun!
- Swampthing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Technically, that's incorrect. America Online was the spawn of PeopleLink, which was a brand name that QuantumLink used for the PC end of their C64 online service. QuantumLink did not spawn Q-Link, it WAS Q-Link.
I personally spoke with Steve Case many times when he was simply a troubleshooter for Q-Link... long before the whole company became AOL. Funny how things change, yet stay the same. - bcorder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I loved Geoworks Ensemble. reinstalled it so many times (after i screwed up the computer for no good reason). still remember the serial number 20 years later... the moon shot they had as a background was one of my favs.
- SanTe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3> It was slow, but Oh So Cool!
And heavy. Maybe not Osborne or Compaq heavy but it was still a luggable.
And a 5 inch screen. At least it was color. =)
C=64 games were great fun. I'd *love* to have a newly designed C=64 portable with a modern screen, like a tablet PC but a little smaller. Fitting in the cartridge port or a 5.25" floppy drive would be problematic though. Maybe jettison those altogether and run the C=64's OS in emulation mode, and run programs/games off a USB thumb drive.
I'd buy that. =) - ClayRobeson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Huzzah for Quantum Link! I miss those days...
- mehigh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Maurice Randall released a Geos update too. It runs on the C=64 and C=128. It was called Wheels. Man, i even went online with Wings until 2001. He is working on Wheels SC now. A multitasking version for the C=128 with SuperCPU.
You guys should also check Wings OS, the most advanced Commodore OS. It's unix based and it supports preemptive multitasking. Read the specs here :D http://wings.webhop.org/ - fquednau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sweet!! So, about 20 years later I have the chance to get the C64 emulator and the geos disk image and have it all running within 10 minutes. Fascinating, melancholic, full circle. Just now it costed me nothing, back then it was several hundred Deutschmarks. Plenty of money for an eleven year old, LOL!
- khiddy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I used both GEOS on the C64 and GeoWorks Ensemble on the PC/XT that my parents had. GEOS on the C64 gave the full WIMP experience, including desktop publishing (to Apple LaserWriters, even!). The buy-in for GEOS ($50) was cheap, as was the hardware that it ran on.
On the PC/XT, GeoWorks Ensemble was not as rewarding. There were few applications that shipped with the standard install, and most of them were eye-candy. However, it did eke a few more years of life out of the XT before I could afford a real Macintosh...
Those were the days, man! - corsa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I remember my freshman year in college, my roommate bought a brand new Mac to replace his Apple IIe, and I bought GEOS and a Commodore mouse for my C=64. Man, was he surprised when I pulled up GeoPaint, which looked very similar to his MacPaint, but I could draw in COLOR. :)
- jaseo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Loved GEOS on my C64. Very fun with multiple drives (even a 1581 - woo hoo!).
- HCviolence, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Old school....... I remember playing around with Geopaint for hours.
- threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yeah but it made music! you could run a program that would make the drive head move back and forth and played a tune.
- palmer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2On TVs, yes, it wasn't until SuperBeta came out that separated Y/C video hit the TV market (the S stands for "separated", not "super"). But there were some monitors in the '80s that handled it, specifically the JVC-made Commodore 1702. The 1702 was legendary, a hugely popular and well made monitor. I still own two of them to use as broadcast monitors for video editing. The 1702 has separate RCA jacks on the back for luma and chroma.
The Atari 8-bit was a product of a different era, when designers were forward-thinking and given free reign to make the best product they could imagine. It's too bad that the brainwashed consumers did not take time to compare the capabilities of the computers available; kids came home from school and said, "We use Apples at school," so parents rushed out to buy them without regard for their comparatively stunted capabilities. The IBM PC was outdated and outclassed the day it hit the market, but with that nameplate, it didn't matter. - troub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I loved Geoworks for the PC also. My first computer was actually a display model that had both Windows and GeoWorks on it (the store didn't usually do that). I tried them both, and without any preconceived anti-MS prejudice ended up using Geoworks almost exclusively, even launching DOS games from there (or exiting and clean-booting for the DOS4GW or whatever--Doom, etc.)
Theeeennnn, the Windows games started trickling in, and with Windows 95 that was it. I still have my Geoworks box, disks, and manual on my bookshelf.
daball
"BTW my old 486 has 8 megs of ram and Geoworks smokes."
Mine had 4. - tomzo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I used both GEOS and Q-Link on my C-64 during the late 1980s. I used my trusty joystick as a mouse and it worked quite well. I had a Commodore dot matrix printer and used it for college papers and the like. As others noted, one of my roommates (from a family with greater means than mine) had a Mac and my little C-64 worked every bit as well as his 128 kb Mac did back then. I even used to do rudimentary research on Q-Link for papers when I was too lazy to go to the library - although the connection fees were enough to make all but the quickest research out of the question!
- gklinger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The Commodore community is alive and well. If you're looking to relive your youth or perhaps you're just curious you could download a free emulator and some games or even connect to the recently revived and completely free Quantum Link (seriously).
Commodore Emulator:
http://www.viceteam.org/
Commodore 64 Games:
http://www.c64.com/
Info about Quantum Link Reloaded and BBSes:
http://www.petscii.com/
Active Communities:
http://jledger.proboards19.com/index.cgi
http://www.lemon64.com/
I know I post these URLs whenever a Commodore-related story pops up so I apologize if you've seen them before. My goal is to help people reconnect with their geeky roots and to have a little fun in the process. - Namco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I had a used C64 in '86. What was cool about that era was that everyone was moving on to C128s, Amigas, Tandys, etc... and C64 stuff could be found for relatively cheap. I found GEOS in the electronics department at Target and picked it up, I think it was ~$50. I tell ya, it breathed new life into my C64. There was just so much there and it really got me used to a the graphical interfaces that I'd use later in life.GEOS Paint was awesome. Bought a mouse to plug in the joystick port and I was all set.
- jayunit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yay GEOS on C64! Yay insanely-slow 1541 drive :) But, most of all, yay for the computer I cut my teeth on that taught me hand-coding 6510 asm for speed and got me into software development where I am today. heart heart heart for all the memories
- daball99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I still have Geoworks II running on an old 486 box. Still works great! I read the part about Balmer saying that Microsoft would have to crush them. What a Knob! Microsoft could use some guys that know how to write tight code. BTW my old 486 has 8 megs of ram and Geoworks smokes.
- steveodigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2GeoWorks was awesome. It ran well on my IBM PS/1 10 MHz 286, 1MB RAM. So much better than Windows 3.0. It actually took 20 seconds for the first character that I typed to appear in Write. :(
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Oh how I loved moving the cursor with a closeout Atari 2600 joystick on my C-64.
- gavdana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I ran GEOS on my IIc - it was a great OS.
- spriggig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We had this on the shelf at the original Fry's Electronics in Sunnyvale back in the day. Most people wanted MS-DOS, WordPerfect and Lotus 123. I also sold a new-fangled device called an "inkjet" printer by HP--24 pin dot-matrix printers beat the pants off them print quality-wise and were cheaper so few people bought the HP DeskJet.
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