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- Youssif, on 10/10/2007, -8/+113It's not about Firefox only anymore, it's about Freedom, Firefox what makes it east to switch, because when you get familiar with it you will forget IE, and because you discovered the sister project Thunderbird, you now thinking to forget Outlook, and you just figured out they are both running on linux, so you get that Ubuntu CD and start seriously to forget about Windows... Firefox was only the beginning. That's why Opera wont make it before ..
Thank you Mozilla for making my life easier, safer and free. - asadotzler, on 11/05/2007, -3/+74And just to preempt the "a download is not a user" comments, yes, you are right, a download is not a user and we're not claiming it is.
Today we have about 120 million users, so a little more than 1 out of 4 of those downloads turns into a regular Firefox user.
Firefox has achieve about 20% of the global internet market and as high as 50% in some countries. - CiDaemon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+49as long as it's not IE, we're cool.
- mrmacky, on 10/10/2007, -3/+49Microsoft should send them another cake.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+46Firefox is great, but let's get to 1 billion before we get to 1,000 billion.
- triley5000, on 10/10/2007, -15/+48This is an amazing tribute to the power of the Firefox community! Congrats to to everyone that has contributed to Firefox. Let's push on to 1 trillion downloads!
- Senn, on 10/10/2007, -3/+27This is exactly what I did with my parents on their computer. Got them used to Firefox instead of IE, then Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express, and then later on wiped Windows and installed Ubuntu. As they were already used to the two main apps they use, the transition was as smooth as you can get. Great stuff.
- Niz1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20i downloaded it once and put it on USB memory to share (good computer tech)
just kidding im sure your good too :) - hmunkey, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21One trillion... are you mentally deficient?
- xyour925job, on 10/10/2007, -14/+29Fire fox is really a Great browser I really do like the ease of use I really do think its faster and better Congrats to fire fox for this milestone
- MScrip, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17Why is McDonalds still counting? How insecure is this company? 40 million, 80 billion, trillion zillion …. Is anyone impressed anymore? Oh 89 billion sold! Alright, I’ll have one. I’m satisfied. Who cares?! I would love to meet the chairman of the board of McDonalds and just say to him: Look! We ALL get it ok? You’ve sold alot of hamburgers. Whatever the hell the number is, just put up a sign saying "McDonalds... we're doing very well." We are tired of hearing about every god damn one of them.
/Seinfeld - archistudent, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16Oh, bullocks. This page sucks. Most of the information appears to be correct, but I don't think that grabbing a few examples and calling them out on technicalities when they were intended to be generalized statements in any way makes IE better than FF, or makes FF any worse.
Quote: Myth - "Firefox is not a Religion"
Answer: Really?
Quote: Myth - "Firefox is a Solution to Spyware"
Answer: Who makes this claim? Spyware is in the sites you visit and in the ads served. But FF does provide AdBlock and FlashBlock and Customize Google so that users can avoid most of that if they wish to.
Just about the only thing I agree with, but won't consider a myth even if that page does, is that FF is a memory hog. But since my laptop has 1GB ram, who cares? - mrmacky, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15... Umm, I still think Firefox is the best browser out there...
http://nanobox.chipx86.com/blog/2005/12/re-firefox-myths.php - Atomic1fire, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15I wonder how many actully know how to change a skin
or add an extension. - ninjasquirrel, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Hear hear... my parents have been using Firefox since I switched back in high school (something around .6). They didn't even notice the difference when I swapped the IE desktop link out for Firefox, other than a marked decrease in spyware. They're moving to Ubuntu next week...
- kelson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Well, don't forget the copies of Firefox that come pre-installed with most Linux distros these days. Or the people who download it once, then transfer it via LAN or thumb drive to other computers. (I've downloaded v.2 once for Windows, and installed it on at least 10 machines.) Those are cases where multiple installations are counted as only 1 download, or not counted at all.
But as pointed out in the comment you were replying to, Mozilla isn't actually claiming that 400M downloads = 400M users, and points out their current estimate of active users at 120M - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13"Myth - "Firefox is Bug Free" - Example"
Funny how the only people making a 'Firefox is bug free' example are on a ***** PET LOVERS forum. That's the place where I go for cutting edge technical information.
Sorry, but the author of that article is reaching WAY too hard. - brandon272, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13What a petty, pathetic list.
- RabidFurby, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Love Firefox. Digg. Rock on.
- czimmerman, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Yeah, jackass, and that's why Firefox is gaining so much traction and getting closer every day to IE. But yet, we get what we pay for. Suck it, troll.
- smackjack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9They article clearly states 400 million downloads, not 400 million users
- bsmedberg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9No. Automatic update usually provides updates to new versions, and these are not counted as "downloads".
- gd1z, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8You win the award for unnecessary capitalization.
- TheSpook, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I wonder how those 400 million downloads equates to number of users. I know I've downloaded it at least several dozen times (often times for new version, sometimes after a reload of one of my 10 machines I have at home, and on occasion just playing with a new Linux distro (though the great majority of my FF downloads are for Win32)).
- 711groove, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9"not even the world's most powerful companies can keep people from a better, safer, and faster Web experience"
I don't know... mozilla is doing a good job of keeping me from using Opera. - knobidy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Holy *****! I had to dust off my IE icon, but it was worth it to see that acid2 test render. That is just too funny. Why was there a scroll box?
- bscene, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8I've read your page and yes I still think that Firefox is the best web browser out there.
Not because of all these so called myths either. For myself and the people I work with, it is simply the easiest browser browser to work with.
- Pages render the way you expect them to. Of course the reality is that we need to make sure pages render fine in IE = more work :(
- Some of the extensions available in Firefox kick ass and can really contribute to productivity
- It looks nicer (imho)
p.s. I noticed you compared Firefox to Opera on the acid test for standards compliance. If you had included a screenshot of IE's rendering you would have seen that the happy face took a shotgun to the face :P - GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8At constant retention rate an increase in downloads still equates to an increase in user base.
I suspect the entire Linux market isn't counted in this as well (since most distros ship their own version from their own servers). If that is the case then there are an extra 20m Firefox users to add. - asadotzler, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Actually, you're again wrong, troll. I haven't been involved with QA at Mozilla for about 5 years and I was never "head" of QA for Mozilla. I was, at one time in the distant past, a volunteer organizer trying to bring people into Mozilla's QA process but I've seldom done any QA myself and certainly don't do more than the occasional bug report these days.
Thanks for playing, troll. - kwolf, on 10/10/2007, -7/+12retetion rate is 25% ...
http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/07/mozilla-looking-for-ways-to-increase-firefox-retention/ - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10These numbers are actually low. Some people use firefox without downloading it.
My firefox came bundled on my ubuntu live cd. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Rofl... people still link to that guys site?
He used to use the Alias "MasterTech" and spammed forums to advertise his website..
Pretty much all the stuff on that page is crap....
System Requirements? if your system can't run Firefox with the requirements posted on there, you really need to upgrade.
Memory Usage? why did you even bother buying more memory for your computer if you're gonna complain about... 50,428KB (+Addons).... lets see.. 1gig memory (which pretty much everyone has) or at least 512mb (computers are shipped with that now)
1024mb - 50mb = 974mb for the rest of my programs and windows... woohooo.
512mb - 50mb = 462mb for the rest of my programs and windows...
no real impact on system performance at all.
bug free? no it's software of course it has bugs... but would ya rather have a bug of copy+paste not working sometimes.. or a bug that exploits the activex to install malware... hmmm....
enough ranting for now.. - humperdeath, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I think i'Ve downloaded it a few thousand times myself. I should start figuring out how to save my work.
- NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Auto-update FTW... =P They are not counted as downloads.
- Rileyper, on 10/10/2007, -7/+11I have downloaded it about 207 times,(computer tech)
- mvent2, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Why don't you submit that as a Digg article? Oh wait, you can't because that site has been banned for spouting more ***** than a bovine with diarrhea. LOL
- LordSkywalker, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9Stop using Windows ME.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6ok, so since you don't want to upgrade a windows 95 box then the world revolves around you and your "kind"? lol.
The slowest computer in my house ( I could go slower, but to assume you bought a computer in at least the past 10 years you should match this.)
eMachines 400i3 (400mhz, windows98, 64mb) hey... it runs firefox just fine. and was 400 bucks at the time + 200 dollar rebate.
of course my first computer a 50mhz, windows 3.1, ~16mb ram and a 500mb hard drive can't run firefox.. but i don't go crying saying it can't run firefox.. i've moved on from that trash.
My current computer... eMachines T2341 (1.9ghz single core, Windows XP, 1gig ram) yes.. i can run firefox perfect and this machine is about 5 years old and was ~350 bucks at the time.
so because you don't want to spend what.... 2 weeks worth of minimum wage paychecks to upgrade we have to hear your rant?... seriously... no one cares.
wonder what certain expensive crap like... wedding rings will make you rant about..... Just use an Onion Ring, eh?
off to go cry on the BF2 forums because my computer can't run BF2 because i'm too cheap to spend 400 bucks for a new computer that can handle BF2.... lol.... - frontporsche, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Your page implies that Firefox requires Windows XP. No point in reading further.
- userundefine, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6And I've likewise downloaded it at least 20 times from Ubuntu repositories, not their official site so it doesn't get counted. It all gets balanced out.
- pcabellor, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Well according to XiTi's latest, Firefox is 28% in Europe, 18% in North America and so on. By July. Got any better numbers you want to share?
http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/07/firefox-takes-28-market-share-in-europe/ - Darcy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3No they don't. They ask if you would like to upgrade to the latest version, it's up to you whether you choose to install it or not. Firefox, opera, itunes and many other apps do the same thing.
- sammysoul, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Number of downloads or usage rate doesn't really say much about the quality of a product (look at Microsoft software). Firefox has become pretty bloated over the years and leaks memory like there is no tomorrow (I regularly get 250 MB memory usage with a couple of tabs open). Plus there is the 100% CPU load problem; Google it and you'll see what I mean. Don't get me wrong, Firefox is still my most used browser, mainly due to all the extensions I have personalized it with. But Opera comes with many useful features already included (bittorrent, RSS reader, mouse gestures, etc.) and is way faster. Only reason I'm not using it that much is that many websites don't support it. If we really want a revolution on the browser front, I'd say we should press every website to comply with the standards (http://www.webstandards.org/) so it won't matter anymore what browser you're using. I'm all for web standards and open-source software!
- merreborn, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4And here I was thinking you were trying to sneakily imply that each firefox user has downloaded FF 100 times
- aussieNickuss, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5What about those like me....who download it once and then pass it around to a whole lot of people?
- TheSpook, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3> "Averaged out, it's probably around 100 million downloads and not 400 million due to some people downloading it more than once, or twice, etc.."
No, I don't think you get it. I believe they have a counter that actually keeps track of the number of downloads. Now unique USERS, OTOH, is a different story. - Jack0Neill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Hey kahrn, I've seen you around before:
http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20031010
You're the guy in the business suit! - Rileyper, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5And your obviously not one of those people (400,000,000 not 4,000,000)
- zwaldowski, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Weekly? How long to you keep Firefox open?
- kvaldes44, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5viva la revolution
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