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- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -24/+169Firefox is the future, and IE is for novice & unexperienced people.
- thatsoccerkid, on 07/03/2008, -3/+131its just sad some people think IE icon on there desktops IS the internet.
- hawksfan03, on 07/02/2008, -5/+82The only thing preventing FireFox from reaching a 50% market share is people's resistance to change and people that don't know it exists. Keep spreading the word! I sent my parents this link http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/video/ and they installed it and have been hooked ever since
- mr.gates, on 07/03/2008, -3/+78Install it on your parents, sisters, brothers machine and just swap out the icon for the IE icon they will use it and not even know the difference. I did it and have hooked a lot of people just give them time they will find the tab browsing and stuff on there own after a few months tell them what you did and switch the icon back they will keep using it. Plus they will probably think your some sort of magician with your icon changing abilities.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -1/+67Stupid ***** people. Everyone knows that AOL is the internet.
- dagamer34, on 07/03/2008, -5/+63How do more than 73% of people still use the crappiest browser ever invented?
- mijelh, on 07/03/2008, -1/+29If he prefers a rendering engine that he recognizes as less standard compliant just because it's easier for him, maybe he's not such a great web designer...
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -0/+19except for an older friend of mine (okay, he's like 4 times my age) who thinks 'google' is his ISP.
- WhereAmI, on 07/03/2008, -0/+18@mattohkamp
Let me guess, his home page is google? I know people that do the same thing and enter in the URL of the site they are going to in Google Search and think thats the only way to get to the site. - soupedupsupra, on 07/03/2008, -2/+20"you said you took a picture of it, just restore it" "...yeah i mean i guess... i can just make it the background..."
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -0/+16My ladyfriend has a cousin who is pretty technically challenged. They were talking about great companies to work for, and my girl said Google was a great company to work for, and her cousin said "People work for Google?"
Jesus. - PabloIV, on 07/03/2008, -0/+15My dad (an otherwise intelligent man) is convinced that Firefox messes with his machine if it's simultaneously installed with IE.
Can 71% of the internet be under the same impression? - mijelh, on 07/03/2008, -0/+15Or the end of free web contents, who knows...
An ad-block user - mijelh, on 07/03/2008, -1/+15I don't think that's the way to go. Treating people as reatarded and replacing their stuff secretly because "you know better" sounds really awfull to me.
Most likely, if you just tell them that you think IE is inferior to Firefox and that you can replace it if they want, they would say "ok", maybe just because if they are not tech savy they just don't give a *****. - inactive, on 07/03/2008, -0/+14its 30% usage in Ireland and around 25% in Europe.
- ronaldmonster, on 07/03/2008, -0/+12Personally despite what most people think Firefox is gonna have a harder time cracking the market than they think. I tried letting my family use, and despite telling them every reason why they should use it instead of IE they go right back too it. To most people Mac, Linux & Windows is all the same, and until you can show them how it will benefit them personally (a lot harder than it sounds) they won't change their minds.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -2/+14Its businesses that are the primary reason for the high IE numbers
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -2/+12Ah, see, the part where he likes it because it's easier, not because it's right? That's the part where he's not a really great web designer.
- QsheiK, on 07/03/2008, -0/+10I was telling my friend who is also a technician about how great Firefox is and then he tells me that he thought that they're all owned by the same company... i.e. Firefox was owned by Microsoft.
Imagine the shock on my face when he said that. - jacobu9, on 07/03/2008, -0/+10The problem with these stats is that they are from the W3C's site, and the majority of people who go there are people who care about standards compliance and consequently choose browsers like Firefox, so they have an abnormally high percentage of market-share there. The ideal logs would be Google's, but seeing as how those are private, sites which have a wide range of users are the next best thing. The W3C's site even says
"These facts indicate that the browser figures above are not 100% realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is used by at least 80% of the users." - WhereAmI, on 07/03/2008, -2/+11Also install the IE Theme for better secretiveness.
- Notyavgkat, on 07/03/2008, -1/+9i don't see how IE can look at itself in the mirror in the morning
- psuth1, on 07/03/2008, -0/+8what's even sadder is that my parents have broadband, and yet they REFUSE to terminate their AOL account. To them, clicking on that AOL button IS the internet. They spend like $30 a month extra for AOL....and they refuse to use anything other than the AOL 'browser'. Christmas visits get more and more painful every year...
- twiztidsinz, on 07/03/2008, -1/+9Only you buddy...
Awesome Bar is flawless and ABP never stopped working for me. - inactive, on 07/03/2008, -0/+7Eh, Opera's been up and down, and so has Firefox for that matter - the import part is that you pick a standards-compliant browser that is comfortable for you to use.
- waydee, on 07/03/2008, -0/+7Or the fact the average person just doesn't care, if Internet Explorer works (which it does) they'll happily continue to use it. I'm a big fan of firefox and try and turn as many people as I can onto it but IE works for most people.
- WhereAmI, on 07/03/2008, -0/+7And schools that haven't switched.
- Darwynn, on 07/03/2008, -0/+6I like Firefox. I downloaded 3.0 when it was released just to try it out and haven't used Safari since. It really is faster and the add-ons and extensions are great.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -1/+7Must everything be anti-American in some way?
- veriix, on 07/03/2008, -0/+6wtf are you talking about?
- WhereAmI, on 07/03/2008, -2/+8Whats that? Oh nevermind I was busy loading Google Docs and Google Mail just fine on Firefox.
- KibibyteBrain, on 07/03/2008, -2/+8Although, apparently experienced geeks who are inexperienced spellers can still apply to the Firefox camp. I think its more fair to say that Firefox(or Opera or elinks or notepad and rendering the code in your brain or whatever you like) is for people who care at all about what web browser they use, and the default is for everyone else.
Besides, I don't think MS maintains IE as much as a serious web browser as a concept platform for their .net HTML rendering components. Lots of .net applications use IE components to do stuff. - inactive, on 07/03/2008, -1/+7because it wasn't always free and thus firefox has a huge head start on it.
- Niz1, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5It was quite easy with firefox 3, give them that a try , like the new address bar did wonders for my dad he just types in something he doesnt quite remember and it comes up! he doesn't know the address for hotmail so he types in mail and it comes up.
Only problem atm is my mum uses msn messenger to get to hotmail and it forces Internet explorer to open and the browsing continues from there, i cant really do anything about this and my parents don't seem to care what they use as long as they get what they want. I guess its the newer generations that need to be converted while they're young and open to new things, put firefox in the schools i say! - deej99, on 07/03/2008, -6/+11Because it just so happens the crappiest browser comes pre-installed on the crappiest O/S
- maximumsteve1, on 07/03/2008, -1/+6elinks is the future! i'm posting with it right now!
- dn11, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5explain to me what is so special about Opera again? I keep trying it, never have much liked it.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -1/+6are you kidding? the 'mute' and 'fast forward' features haven't stopped advertising on traditional broadcast media, anymore then the 'turn page' or 'avert eyes' function in people have stopped in newspapers. Advertisers are literally insane. Try staring them right in the eye sometime - you'll see it.
- EclipseGSX, on 07/03/2008, -5/+10Every PC that I work on for friends or family I secretly replace IE with FF. It's easy enough to get it looking rather similar to IE, without all the complete *****. Don't knock the people that use IE... they just don't know any better. Do your job as responsible, moderately tech-savvy individuals and spread the love. I even put an "Internet Explorer" icon on the desktop and change the icon to IE's so they feel all warm and fuzzy.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -2/+7Yeah, but it doesnt matter as much because firefox isnt tied directly to the CORE of the system. The reason IE is SO insecure (even having less exploits than firefox sometimes) is because it is tied to tightly into windows. In fact, without IE, Windows would not function.
- Niten, on 07/03/2008, -2/+61. Fact: Approximately 25% of U.S. citizens still approve of President Bush, according to the latest reliable poll data.
2. Lemma: Americans are at least three times as likely to care about, and be capable of forming an intelligent opinion on, matters of national politics, than on the technical details of their computers' web browsers.
From points #1 and 2 above, it is intuitive that nearly three quarters of web users just don't know or give a ***** enough to bother using anything other than the big 'e' already installed on their desktops. (Okay, so I basically pulled this out of my ass... but c'mon, amirite?) - inactive, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Definately install it on anybody's computer that doesnt know much about computers. You wont have to worry as much about viruses, adware and crap like that. Be sure to grab a free antivirus also (avast, avg, ...)
- mijelh, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Being better is not sufficient nor necessary for being dominant on a market. Most reasons are non technical, like corporate deals & politics, advertisement, or in the case of IE, being incorporated into almost every new PC.
- GreenAlien, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4"Lol? Why isn't Opera higher for being the best browser? (just watch, I'll get buried by Fx fanboys like Obama fanboys) "
Because they didn't realise the potential financially for a free browser early enough. As soon as they saw Firefox take off, and the millions it made from its search deal with Google, they switched over. The management just werent quick enough.
Add to that the fact that Firefox has always been more customizable and Mozilla have been very active in encouraging add-ons early on. It's no luck that Firefox is the #2 browser now.
Personally the only thing I liked about Opera was its full page zoom feature. I used that regularly. Firefox 3 has that now too though so I havent used Opera since. I didn't care much for the UI in Opera either - it was too busy. Firefox never seems to get in the way. It just works.
If you get buried then it's probably because you blurted out "fanboys" twice instead of saying something useful. - inactive, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Perfect for me. If it wasn't already named the Awesome Bar, I would probably have called it that by now anyway.
- TrevorPace, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Or 1 in 5 to make that fraction reduced.
- Hellothere123, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4IE tab and AdBlock Plus works fine for me... check for update.
- ammundsen, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5People who go to w3schools are looking for info on web standards. You would expect them to use a browser that is fairly standard compliant. This would not be true for other sites.
- futureb, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4I can't read COURIER NEW, sorry.
- alysonpeace, on 07/03/2008, -1/+5Internet Explorer is a miserable failure of a browser, like Vista is an operating system. Firefox has my loyalty :)
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