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- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+243Glad to see that Mozilla isn't investing ALL of their time into PR. I'm looking forward to Firefox 3
- tuxidomasx, on 10/10/2007, -6/+95firefox used to be Chun Li
now its E. Honda - blapierre, on 10/10/2007, -6/+87At least they are finally admitting that Firefox has a memory leak. The used to call it a feature.
- bungoman, on 10/10/2007, -8/+81This is good to hear. It's not uncommon for firefox to start using 400+ MB of memory if I leave it open for more than an hour. If i have more than 4 or 5 tabs or the same number of separate windows it always happens without fail.
- iandigg, on 10/10/2007, -3/+65Is it me or does Digg totally break firefox if there's lots of comments?
If I open a few digg tabs with lots of comments the browser hangs for a good 30 seconds. I have the latest (2.xx) version. - Quakes, on 10/10/2007, -12/+69They better. I'm tired of losing 500mb RAM because Firefox has been running for a couple of hours.
- geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -6/+60Truthfully, Firefox doesn't leak so much, nowhere near as badly as it used to in the early days in any case. The biggest problem from what I can tell is simply bad judgment on how people would rather Firefox cache things in memory. They've always coded Firefox to using up however much RAM it can get its hands on because that's what RAM is for, now they're switching the caching system to being time sensitive and trimming the cache based on object expiration times.
about:memory is probably a good idea, if not just a panacea for the overheated crowd, but I honestly don't think it's going to tell you anything new about what's going on inside of Firefox. - IbnDigg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+52Not sure if this is a firefox issue, but digg is ever so slow on firefox. So much so that I now use opera for digg browsing.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+50Same, firefox is an excellent browser but the mem leaks were growing a bit annoying. it will be nice to see a lean mean html rendering machine.
- gencha, on 10/10/2007, -8/+42I believe it when i see it.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+32I don't understand this attitude. I use Opera, but I'd be willing to give FF3 a shot when it comes out. I love everything else about it except the massive memory footprint.
- fugazied, on 10/10/2007, -4/+28How is it bloated. Speed wise it still destroys Internet Explorer. The plugins are both a blessing and a curse, they give firefox the ability to do a huge number of cool things, but can also provide the source for memory leaks and performance issues. The browser itself is streamlined, its when you install 20 plugins when it begins to get 'bloated'
- ujjwal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23And I'm hoping it runs smoothly on my 128mb RAM system (primary machine).
- KriLL3.2™, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23What many don't seem to understand though is that the majority of leaks stem from poorly coded extensions, if you have noticeable leakage in FF2 try disabling extensions a bunch at a time, when it stops re-activate all that didn't change anything and then re-activate 1-2 of the bunch that did make a change at a time.
- antdude, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22Digg is one of them especially with many mutliple tabs.
- chris9902, on 10/10/2007, -4/+24quick, defend it, defend it to the death.
500mb is unacceptable. I don't care how much RAM you have. Using that much shouldn't be swept under the rug. I know Firefox is the poster boy of open source software but people need to face up to the fact it's a memory whore. Thankfully Firefox is getting better. - jjesusfreak01, on 10/10/2007, -6/+26I just loved looking in task manager and seeing 500,000K beside Firefox. It uses more memory than Windows...how about that.
- XIUgraag, on 10/10/2007, -4/+234 hours running now and I'm at 80MB memory usage...
- Murdats, on 10/10/2007, -4/+22wow, get some better games or something, seriously!
- spyrochaete, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18Since nested comments were introduced Digg takes as much as 10 or 15 seconds to open, and FF freezes completely until then. Very annoying. I've tried Digg with IE which handles it a little better as it shows the page incrementally, but it's still very slow.
And I have a dual core 2.2ghz AMD CPU with 2 gigs of DDR2, running WinXP SP2. - ISIfunded911, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Last time I restarted firefox after a week and restarted it with the same 100 tabs, firefox + xorg memory usage went down by 2 GB! So I am wondering if firefox alone can solve that situation. And if one day we will be able to really tune its memory usage, because right now it is clear that the memory usage options are a joke.
Anyway, I am not too optimistic because over the years many memory leaks have been fixed, and we can see the result. - Metoz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Speed tests of FF3 and Opera's new Alpha release.
http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ - spyrochaete, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15You fine folks need to look up the word "many" in the dictionary. I'll do you a favour - it means "not all".
Thanks for playing, and be sure to tune in next week for the next exciting episode of "I ain't got no learnin" - shankarganesh, on 10/10/2007, -8/+22for hours i use firefox everyday, and it hangs all of a sudden.
this has become a daily ritual now: i've to use CTRL ALT DEL to end the firefox process and start it again :-(
i know many of you should be doing this in your PCs everyday.
glad to know that they're doing something about it - TenebrousX, on 10/10/2007, -4/+18"it will be nice to see a lean mean html rendering machine."
you're looking for Opera - jasz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15sometimes FF goes up to 600megs... that's crazy...
especially with javascript-intensive sites, like netvibes, google calendar, meebo...
It'll be great if they fixed those mem leak issues... - aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16I can hardly run Digg in a tab anymore with the new comment system. Half the time it'll crash my browser, especially if I open 2+ comment pages.
- Cyber_Akuma, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17Only 500 megs? Lucky you...
- lithera, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Nope, happens to me too. If I open a topic with a lot of comments I usualy go get a cup of coffee because it will take a while. With IE this is considerably better.
- dsendecki, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13I wish it was Blanka
- fr34k5h0w, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12The javascript usually makes FireFox and Camino hang on my Mac for a moment
- greevar, on 10/10/2007, -10/+21I must be the only one that doesn't have memory issues with Firefox. I have 2GB of RAM in my machine. I run FF in the background while playing games and never notice any lag in performance. (Shrugs)
- spyrochaete, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17I love FF and use it every day but I definitely see where rhylan is coming from. I use the MinimizeToTray extension to minimize FF to my icon tray so that I can leave it running 24/7 and sometimes I see it consuming over 250MB of RAM after a few days! With one tab open! That's a bigger memory footprint than many 3D games I play.
- evildeadguy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Even with the mail/BT/IRC/everything else, its still smaller, more secure, faster.
If half the people that love Firefox gave Opera a proper chance and tweaked it to suit their surfing I beleive that there would be a lot less Firefox users. If for nothing more than proper mouse gestures. - laaabaseball, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11I run Firefox in XP and Vista. I have some issues with it running slow and hogging resources, but for the most part, its an awesome and reliable browser. It does beat the ***** out of IE7, with ABP I don't see any ads, like the ones on Digg. (Digg has ads?! :) I'm not saying its faster than Opera, or that its the one best browser out there, I just think it has the best variety of speed and usefulness that I use it. Of course, as with any program there'll be errors, security flops, and other ***** that happens, but they usually get corrected. I know all you Firefox critics point out that this leak issue has been going on for a while, but you have to understand that it takes a major overhaul of a program to get it to work right. Firefox 3 is that overhaul.
- mousky, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Thing is, using a lot of memory is NOT a memory leak. It's just poor memory management. A memory leak would be memory that cannot be accessed or used after it has supposedly been released.
It took Mozilla a while to correct memory management issues because they were not easily reproducible. I've only had one issue with memory and Firefox and that was related to a bad install of an extension. - shifty2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10bitching? I'm running a fresh install of 2.0.0.7 w/ NO extensions and with 4 tabs open its taking up 95MB of RAM. i think i have a right to bitch, bitch!
- schnikies79, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Ah, the classic "it's not happening to me, so it must everyone else must be the problem." A default install of 2.0.0.5 (last i checked and with no extensions), left on gmail overnight would pull over 1gb by morning. This was on different computers and was on many forums.
- antdude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I'd like to see a way to enable and disable extensions on the fly without restarting Firefox/SeaMonkey.
- Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9The point is that it doesn't happen to everyone. What are you doing? Do you have 22 extensions loaded and then open up 30 tabs, or what?
Seriously, what do you do with your browser that would cause it to use 800 MB after an hour? I'm very curious. - brim4brim, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11I don't understand why people won't use Opera. It is by far the best web browser. There are only one or two pages I can't access perfectly using Opera and I'm willing to put up with opening IE for those if it means I get the benefits of Opera 90% of the time.
- Ancestor, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10The title reads "memory usage and memory leak", so it's a combination of both. They have never denied that there are leak issues but it's also true that some of the increased consumption comes from the caching feature.
- tHePeOPle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I have a similar system, and it's horrible. If the comment count is over 100, I might as well go get some coffee because the whole browser becomes useless.
- BassCadet, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10What happened to the legion of Firefox apologists who kept telling us "it's not a memory leak" and "it's not a bug" and "it does that by design"?
I'm so glad someone FINALLY recognizes this is a real problem. However, I'd rather have a bloaty Firefox than Internet Clickplorer. - br0ken1128, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Clearly for some people, including myself, Firefox does leak badly .. there's obviously some conditions where Firefox behaves differently which is what makes this process of debugging and fixing so difficult. It could be browsing conditions, plugins, operating system configurations... any number of combinations.. but one thing is certain.. for a lot of people there is an issue.
A virgin Firefox install on a brand new Dell last night showed over 100MB of memory used with Firefox open for just over two hours.. running Windows XP professional w/ service pack 2 and all of the critical updates in place. - init100, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10"That's a bigger memory footprint than many 3D games I play."
You obviously haven't played Supreme Commander. On a large map with many players, late in the game the process is easily using 1.5 GiB. At this point, the game usually crashes, which to me looks like Windows won't give it more than about 3/4 of the installed system memory, which is sane. - Progrockusa, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8you can disable bit torrent in opera about:config in the address bar
- tempusrob, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Dude ... unless you've got that RDRAM crap, do yourself a favor and go spend $50 on some more RAM. Your sanity will thank you.
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