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- ziffel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sadly, IE still utterly dominates the market, thanks to MS' continued anti-trust actions, and even more sad is I know people who are hardcore PC hobbyists (build their own rigs, etc) who still refuse to give up IE. god knows why.
- drpunkerz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Do we really need an update every 10 million downloads firefox receives? It's a great program. I'm using it now. But who cares how many downloads it gets? :/
Maybe its just me but I really don't care as long as they keep the updates coming and keep working on a better browser. - chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@stutterbug
You do realize of course, that Mozilla has stated no less than a DOZEN times that updates do NOT count towards the download number. More in fact - if you use Firefox to download Firefox that does not count either.
"hits and page impressions" indeed. Mozilla has done the best it can to GUESS at how many (semi)unique downloads of Firefox there have been. And as for just being meaningless - Mozilla all but said that too, making it clear that this number can NOT indicate actual Firefox use and spread.
At work Firefox is available through network download (IT demands that it only be from the network, tested build of Firefox, bla bla bla), and I have 3 computers for which I only downloaded once (because remember how updates and using FF to download FF does not count?). Oh, and I have installed it on a dozen other machines from my USB key. That counts as 2 for the counter, even though it is far more than that. Oh, and nearly every Linux distro comes with Firefox (which is counted as only 1 (one!) for hundreds, to thousands of users).
So now tell me what this number signifies to you.
What it means to me is that a lot of people NOT using Firefox to download it, and NOT using the update system, downloaded Firefox. That's what it means to me.
What did you get from it? Or did you even bother to read anything about how this number is calculated? - chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Meh, could be wrong about the using Firefox to download Firefox part, however updates have never been counted toward the number, only "offical" mirrors are counted (there are dozens of popular places on the net to download Firefox that does not count toward this number. Network deployments are not counted, Linux distro's are not counted, so I amend my post, but still, an impressive number (since updates are not counted, and there are dozens of ways to get FF that are not counted).
- Moppy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Funny pic
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2113/getfox1he.gif - tapo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1WTF, since when was Firefox an "IE Alternative" and not a "Web Browser"?!!?!?
- camtech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1darn, right now it says:
SpreadFirefox is currently unavailable. We currently plan to make SpreadFirefox available again as soon as possible. Keep checking in...
no digg, yet. - Voide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This number isn't reliable....
1.) This could be inacurate if Mozilla wanted to make their balls bigger then they actually are
2.) These are downloads. Not users. I know that tons of people have downloaded the program like, 10-50+ times - stutterbug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've downloaded every update since 1.0 and am running 1.07 at this moment on two computers. That's 14 downloads for one user. Somehow, this reminds me of when websites used to track 'hits' and then 'page impressions' rather than 'unique visitors'. The number is meaningless.
- neocitron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0yea Safari is cool too... anything buy IE..
personally Safari has the coolest RSS system i've seen...
and Firefox is just quick and renders most pages better than Safari - harris2004, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Go firefox..I Luv Firefox
- FiveIron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0bugmenot, with the windows build at 4.7 mb, the linux at about 8.4 and the Mac at 8.9 that ranges between 450(if all windows) and 850(if all Mac) terabytes if I did that right, I'd guess its about 600 terabytes, but I have no evidence to that excapt that its between the two earlier numbers.
- wired4christ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Firefox fans rejoice!"
i started rejoicing the day i switched from IE to FF, then Opera - Reference, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0WAY TO GO NERD HERD.
- FiveIron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0still 485,000 short, no digg
- balazs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this story is misleading. reported
- TokenUser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That last 400K downloads might take a little longer ...
http://digg.com/software/Opera_Quadruples_Download_Rates
I have always wondered if the Firefox download numbers are grossly inflated buty scripted autodownloaders just continually clicking (like they do on those "Surfing for Dollars" scams ...) - eyesx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Add a firefox download counter to your site and let users know.
http://pchere.blogspot.com/2005/05/add-firefox-download-counter-on-your.html - jeff1943, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow after 2 mins, it rose from 44 diggs to 111digs and counting.
Some diggers need to actually read the post and go to the site before digging it. - ciaocibai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Are you sure its on 100,000,000 yet? Cause all the counters I'm looking at say its still about 400,000 short. It's still cool though.
- Eric-tile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yea, I just hope that Mozilla's updates can keep up.
- ebenthurston, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0not true. short by a few hundred thousand. no digg.
- hyperation, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've been using Firefox a year or so now, somehow I think it isn't that good of a browser after all. It is not compatible with a lot of stuffs, not everyone runs well on it, pop ups is starting to come up, if the adblock plugin is not on and setup. I gotta say, if IE had tab browsing, I would just go back to IE.
IMO. - matus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> When firefox gets more popular more spyware/adware makers will target it.
Like, how much more? Call your numbers, would you? - smashtactics, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Brings a smile to my face :)
- dolby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Retard the download counter is at 99,500,000+ it will break 100 million by thursday.
- tarun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kinda sucks sfx is down right now and it's a shame they've had all those security problems with their website. That's what you have to deal with when you're a public advocacy organization I guess.
- bonzooznob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Nomad559 (Re: Firefox useage slipping)
If it is, I don't care. BUT please be aware that **NetApplications** is a VERY UNRELIABLE SOURCE! for this kind of information! They get a lot of their stats, from the ALEXA (SPYWARE) toolbar, and tracker cookies (hidden iframe cookies).
Like many users, I DO NOT Accept cookies from alexa, NetApplications, and tons of others... I have blocked all their iframes, and ads from even appearing as I surf (Firefox AdBlock extension )
As a result, thousands and thousands of users, using Firefox, are not being "counted" in stats like these. - BugMeNot2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0100,000,000 million downloads...
HOW MUCH BANDWIDTH IS THAT?! - gookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0who cares. those DL numbers are bloated. it doesnt make a browser any better.
- Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Whoops, I meant Petabytes, not Yottabytes...
Now 5 Yottabytes, that would be amazing. - Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Geez, what is that like 4 or 5YB of bandwidth!?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Firefox faltering for market share
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/78517/firefox-faltering-for-market-share.html
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New figures from Internet monitoring firm NetApplications shows upstart browser Firefox has lost nearly a tenth of its market share between the months of August and September.
Firefox owned an 8.27 per cent share of the browser market in August, says the firm, compared with September's 7.55 per cent, a drop of about 9 per cent. In fact Firefox's market share has been pretty much on a downward path since its June peak of 8.71 per cent. - tribalsun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This is why I just shake my head and laugh at Firefox fanboys, not Firefox users mind you, just the fanboys. Every time someone post a "news" item like this the fanboys come out in droves and digg it without even verifying it.
All one has to do on digg is post a crappy blog entry with "Firefox owns all browsers", "Why Firefox is #1", "Why Firefox will cure World Hunger" etc etc and it gets to the homepage in about 3 hours. It's that kind of garbage that really annoys me about digg.
If someone post a legitimate news item that's positive about another browser the Firefox fanboys come out and "spam" or "lame" it out of existence on digg. Same if a negative news item is posted about Firefox, "spammed" and "lamed" into the nether regions of digg.
Yes, I am huge fan of Opera, just look at many of my news items and you can see this. But these are pushed back off of digg while garbage like this makes the homepage in record time. If any of my Opera news items were actual Firefox news items every one of them would make it here.
Firefox fanboys, sometimes you just have to laugh at them. :-)~ - rdjurovich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Whoops, I meant I take back my digg. :)
Of course, I will be happy to have my digg included for Thursday's assumed mark. :d - Erroneus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://ff.asbjorn.it/ take a look there. Stats, graphs, scripts, everything you need.
- AdamCo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have downloaded firefox from the website several times, but I also got firefox through Suse Linux and now I only download it through Yast online update from Novell and not from the firefox website.
- rdjurovich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Man, this sucks. I just dugg it 'coz I was so impressed by the title, but now I take back my dig:
"Firefox downloads: 99529484"
:( - dbavaria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How many are actually users? And of those downloads how many are not just repeat downloads? .... yay for 100 million, but thats like saying theres 2 billion alcoholics when you count every person who has tried alcohol.
- modpancake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://digg.com/software/Mozilla_Firefox_Officially_Hits_100_Million_Downloads
- DaviDK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"When firefox gets more popular more spyware/adware makers will target it."
It's possible, but you have to install that spyware yourself, in IE you don't have a choice.
Firefox will never reach the same state IE is in currently.
Now pop-ups... they seem to have work around that in firefox already.
As the mozilla foundation turns into a profitable organization, I expect a much better browser. - immrlizard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't think that their download stats are that meaningful. I am an admin and only download it once but have it running on over 150 machines. Still, you have to love that there are alternatives to IE.
- peerk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Firefox makes me sad.
Opera makes me happy. - rhyno2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yay! Exclamation points!
- kubedawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0yes it does. word of mouth. in such a short time, how many people do you think have installed IE in their macs or linux boxes?
- montek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'd digg this, but the title is untrue. It should have been named "Firefox about to hit 100 million downloads."
- GaDawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Firefox is the way to go for internet browsing.
- leomyhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0100,000,000
check out the new logo... - leomyhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0less than 400 to go now
- capran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0One thing I wonder about this is how many are from unique IP addresses? I, for one, have downloaded Firefox many times, either updating to the latest version, installing on a fresh install of an OS, etc.
On my Mac I've been mostly using Safari lately since it seems to be quicker, but not every page renders correctly in it, and there's some annoyances too, like the fact that for some reason a download in Safari uses a ton of CPU %. -
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