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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+95aren't you using firefox 2.0 with built in spell check :-P
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+76In other news, Kingston reports sales of RAM up 7 million percent.
- UpTheToon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+43Guess I should use the spell check next time... goves/gives, you get it.
"Although it looks like a Web site—down to the Firefox-style tabs that run across the top of the page, which each family member uses to display his or her own section—it is, in fact, something much more ambitious: a universal interface. Even though Parakey works inside your Web browser, it runs locally on your home computer, which allows Parakey developers to do things inside your Parakey site that a traditional Web site could not do, such as interact with your camera." - markperia, on 10/12/2007, -4/+44I hate articles like this. Where they introduce the guy and he's really ***** young and has done very well for himself. Im 20 ***** y.o. too and I dunno where my life went and will go. I mean Im not lazy or anything. Where did I go wrong?
The article's like telling me, "You're 20 too, where the ***** are you at? huh?"
God, I just really envy these guys. - Four20, on 10/12/2007, -7/+47"People are switching to Firefox at the rate of 7 million per month"
I love it! - forteller, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35From the article: “If it were up to us, we’d open source all of it,” he says, “but it depends on how the investors want to do this.”
At Matt Mullenweg's blog Blake says this in a comment: "That is, indeed, a misquote. Parakey will be open source, as I repeatedly told the magazine while the article was being edited."
http://photomatt.net/2006/11/01/firefox-followup-parakey/ - saggygrandma, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27Redmond start your photocopiers!
- OpCzar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Can't he just make it a Firefox plugin ;-)
- chulium, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21I actually didn't really notice the typo :P But it's good that you did! (Such a modest digger)
- atomSmasher, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Two bits of advice for you.
a) Don't compare yourself with other peoples personal best. You'll end up living a very disappointing life.
b) People like this are a small exception. You're just like all the other 200 million (unserious guess number) 20 year olds in the world.
There are plenty of things in this life to enjoy and experience. You don't need to be a 20 year old prodigy to be labeled as successful. - carini812, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I'm dumb. I've been using Firefox for...I don't even know how long...never knew about that text zoom feature. To be honest, I've just spent the past few minutes zoomin' in and out and zoomin' all over this friggin' page...like...like a zoomin' idiot.
- Stonedonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Does anyone else find the font in that article to be too small? I've been noticing this more and more around the Web, that body text really should be a few sizes bigger, because most people aren't as close to their screen as they would be to a magazine or a book. Maybe it's just me.
Oh and if your reading this Blake Ross, thank you and yours for a high-quality, open-source alternative to Internet Explorer (although IE7 isn't bad). - chulium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Isn't this like what Google is trying to do? To make the world's information more universally accessible and useful? I smell either a million-dollar purchase, or a head-to-head competition if Parakey is big. (Cool name, though!)
- badken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Could they make the font a little smaller on that page? I was still able to read it if I got close enough to my monitor.
@Stonedonkey... heh, simulsubmission :D - joelmole, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1320 is not too young to get started. I'm 27, graduated from college and have a decent job, but I am really just in the rat race, and haven't done anything like this kid either. The only thing I've learned is to stop envying and get off your ass. Quit reading digg and apply your free time to a passion you have. (this is a pot calling the kettle black, BTW...I'm just saying)
- triplehelix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11maybe i'm the only one a little disappointed that this is what it turns out to be.
- Archon810, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11What an excellent article, I had a lot of fun ready all the pages (I rarely do that). Nicely written.
- blakeross, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9r2d7: Something can be fully open source and still be difficult to replicate successfully. If Google were open source, you still wouldn't have its massive server farm. If Facebook were open source, you still wouldn't have its massive community and mindshare. We can also put aside the "ifs" and look at Firefox...
As for the business model, it is not support. It's something that will become clear when Parakey is launched. There's no launch date at this point; we're still working on the product. - stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Million dollars? So cheap!
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8This kid didn't get to where he is from nowhere. His parents taught him The Secret - get out of the rat race and work for yourself, follow your dreams. Most people want that steady job and steady paycheck, most parents encourage exactly this, but where does that get you? Old and laid off is where it gets you. With discipline, hard work and more discipline, you can do what he did.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9You think Firefox needs RAM? Just wait until Vista lands. At least I can run Firefox on other OSes.
- Barbarino, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Am I the only person who doesn't take pics and upload them to the net? Sounds like a fancy way of sharing photos to me.. What am I missing?
- elastikos, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11As long as it's not called IceWeazle, he's got a good chance of attracting his 'mums and dads' to this project.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8butter....
Parakey...
butter... - phatvolvo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Blake Ross is nervous. Ross says.
Ross’s answer is named Parakey. Parakey isn’t MySpace 2.0. Ross had raided their kingdom.
In explaining Parakey, Ross cuts to the chase. Ross wants independent developers to create a variety of applications for Parakey.
(microsoft word auto-summarize) - chrisgeleven, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Donations from many companies (IBM, Novell, Sun, Google).
Their big income is the search bar though. Like millions of $$$ a year from it, and growing with every new firefox user. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Does this bother anyone else?
"Mozilla makes money through sources such as Google ads included on the Firefox search results page. Parakey, on the other hand, is launching with profit in mind." - uttles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This all sounds like a great idea, but I'm not so sure about the practicality of it. I kinda like being able to use a bunch of different sites for different things... I mean do we really want to centralize it all, or would i tbe better to just write a really big mashup that would allow you to choose which services you wanted to use? This was a good article but I guess it just didn't sell me.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Read the article.
- reqage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've never comprehended the business model that surrounds Firefox. I know they get paid when you do a search through the bar but what else is their income?
- cyroxos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5My school recently installed FF on their Windows computers, which I thought was interesting.
- asadotzler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I work with Blake on Firefox. As one of the few people who's actually seen and used Parakey, I can say that Parakey is a unique product that smokes anything you'lI find out there today.
- furst, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You're very right. This is one of the few times I've read a multi-page article posted here on digg. Mostly I sift through the comments and figure out what's going on from there, but this article kept me captive.
- kkkkk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4nice article.
can hardly wait for parakey to go head on head with google's work. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4No thanks, I'll stick w/ Opera and save my RAM for more important tasks.
- duder, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5yeah, 1.x never gave me any signal problems either...
- Stonedonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Oh, and you can increase your text size dynamically in Firefox by holding the CTRL and scrolling your mouse wheel. Works the same way in Opera, too. Scroll down in FF, scroll up in Opera. Hope that helps!
- ElMoselYEE, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5he put a punctuation error in the digg title for consistency, since the title of the actual article also has missing punctuation. clever.
- woody56292, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7hold control and use your scroll wheel to adjust font size if you are using firefox. ( and have a mouse with a scroll wheel)
( and have a keyboard ) lol - burke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wow, I literally *just* finished reading this in my dead tree copy.
- Superkid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My Issues:
1. Security: I use firebox because I feel more secure. There is no positive outcome in turning your computer into a server and being to naive to think that no one is going to attempt to hack you to oblivion. It will only take a few people to complain about their computer being hacked and all their data stolen/lost before there is a negative stigma about this. I believe that its inevitable, because some people are just idiots.
2. Paradigm of change: people naturally do not like change, this is a proven psychological fact. What Blake and company are introducing (if done correctly) is an entire shift as to how we view the web, simply because the term web in their model should become irrelevant. Your computer should naturally encompass the web; they in theory should become one....right? uhh. The adoption rate of such a change is going to be I believe a hard task. Beside the early geek adopters (myself included), how and when is Susie from middle school going to embrace this?
3. JUL: even if JUL is essentially XUL with a J, it still can cause developer repercussions. Think about this, there are millions upon millions of people who use firebox (or so im told) however the ratio of people who develop add-ons is minute. I really don’t know where the hell I am going with this one but meh…you’ll figure it out.
4. Attracting 2 crowds: very rarely do companies who try and attract 2 different unique crowds make it. Here Parakey is trying to attract a) the users, and get them to adopt the platform, and b) the developers and get them to develop. Let’s think Google, other than Google IG, almost all of Google’s products attract only 1 crowd. This could also be a potential problem
BOTTOM LINE,
It’s always best to remain optimistic, which is not hard considering their track record. If done correctly, this will radically change, and make easier, peoples lives, and probably make a pretty buck along the way. Herds of companies have tried to perfect the sync model, and yet to no avail, let’s hope these guys do it right. - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think it's a pretty good idea. Right now you have to upload photos to your computer, upload again to the internet. Then you email people you want to view the photos.
With this, you just upload to your computer/laptop, mark what you want shared / not shared, and then just hook up to the net and it syncs automagically. It can even work with slow connections - just have it sync while you're at work or something. Plus there's no more hassle of uploading photos 1 at a time or 5 at a time. This also applies to documents, recipes, even documents with passwords - you can use 3des encryption for when it syncs to the server. That way you make sure your passwords are in permanent storage. - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@r2d7
The fact that you think the open source model is at odds with for-profit software says EVERYTHING.
You really don't have a basic understanding of what Open Source Software is, or why corporations are embracing it, do you?
...so why do you smear your critiques all over every thread that involves open source software?
Odd. - AlanKc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4No.
- Salmonax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Although those saying you can grow the font size manually are correct, I agree that the default font of that article is ludicrously small for anyone with a decent resolution.
I know the modern web credo is small=clean=good, but where will it end?! - starsky51, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3c) wear sunscreen
- 83457, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This sounds similar to what Adobe is doing with Apollo but with a different focus on syncing files. Apollo seems to focus primarily on the ability to build desktop apps using web technologies with an api into local files. This web os focuses more on the file syncing but also the ability to run JUL defined apps both locally and on the web. File syncing and the ability to run the same app on local files as online files is the direction we appear to be heading.
- blakeross, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sorry :) What were you hoping for? As far as I can tell, the article only covers the tip of the iceberg. Perhaps we still have a shot at winning you over.
- blakeross, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think the article is phrased rather poorly. Are we launching Parakey "with profit in mind"? No...we're launching Parakey with users in mind. We live in a cynical world (not to mention it's election season in the U.S.), so perhaps that's hard to swallow. But it's the truth.
Financially speaking, Parakey is different from Firefox in a few ways. Firefox is client software, so it doesn't require the amount of infrastructure that Parakey does. Firefox is also backed by Mozilla, which was seeded with a $2M grant from AOL.
Note that nothing in the article is written in stone; if we can find a better route, we will certainly take it. - IEatHamburgers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I had no idea they make money off the search bar. Let's all come up with a hundred random words and search for them in Amazon. Every entry will make Firefox 3 just a little more polished.
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