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Firefox at 10% Market Share.

marketshare.hitslink.com — Yet another source shows Firefox breaking the 10% mark. This brings IE down to under 85%.

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  • replica, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29Good to see it has passed 10% again and again and again.

    48 days ago it passed 10%.
    http://www.digg.com/software/Firefox_Has_Gained_Over_10_Market_Share_Worldwide_

    84 days ago it passed 10%.
    http://www.digg.com/software/Firefox_hits_the_magic_10_percent_figure

    151 days ago it passed 10%.
    http://www.digg.com/software/Firefox_Reportedly_Breaks_10_Barrier_Worldwide

    I am sure in a few months it will do it again.

    Go Firefox.
  • Gnascher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20@ md4wg, nights0223:

    Yes, Firefox has been touted to have reached the 10% mark on various occasions. However, these stats have largely come from the server logs that have a higher-than-usual tech-savy readership. That would generally cause thier results to be skewed in favor if FireFox because the tech-savvy crowd tend to be early adopters.

    Looking at these webstats ... it looks like thier aggregating thier data from a broader slice of internet traffic. So, this may be a truer reading on the degree of Firefox penetration for the internet-using public on the whole.
  • burnt1ce85, on 10/12/2007, -13/+26Just because firefox's market share is 10%, and IE's market share is 85% doesnt mean IE is better (i'm assuming that's quite obvious). The 85% of those IE are late adopters and users like old grandmas or people who use their computer to only check their email. The firefox's market share consist of people who are tech-savvy and use the computer 5-10 times more than the average user (estimated statistics).

    So even though firefox only has 10% market share, im sure that websites logs would indicate that more than 10% of users use firefox as their browser.
  • ThinkFr33ly, on 10/12/2007, -18/+30I think Firefox's market share will be short lived. IE 7 will be a decent upgrade for XP users, and a huge upgrade when used on Vista.

    IE 7 on Vista will be run as a low-privs users which will result in pretty much the most secure browsing one can have short of Lynx.

    I switched to Firefox for two reason: built in tabbed browsing and security through obsecurity. Now I think I might switch back.

    Digg prediction: -11
  • hasbeen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13They're already making plenty from the search bar.
  • soogy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12They kind of do; they have some sort of deal with Google, so they get revenue from Google ads when you search from either the "Google Firefox" homepage or the Google search bar. (And quite a bit of revenue, too!)
  • definiteform, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16IE 7 will not come with extensions as far as I know. So I'll never switch.
  • jetta421, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13ThinkFr33ly, thats the beauty of technology....what works for some, doesn't have to work for all. IE7 in Vista does look to be a huge improvement in security...but there's something about having a choice NOT to use what Bill Gate's is feeding me.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I build and sell PCs, and getting rid of the IE shortcut on the desktop and replacing it with FF (with adblock and siteadviser extensions) has been one of the best things I've ever started to do.
    My clients have fewer spyware problems, that means a lot less work for me, and a much better experience for my clients.

    Its unfortunate that you still get lots of sites (inc a LOT of banking ones) that don't stick to standards and will only work properly with IE!
  • bryanjones, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I've heard the opposite. Since IE 7 won't run on windows 2000, which has ~40% market share, it will encourage a lot of people to switch to firefox when they find out how great tabs are.
  • jetta421, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Firefox should continue to gain share. It is clear that Microsoft's monolithic development process cannot keep up with the rate of development in the Open Source community on Firefox and other apps. It is up to us "tech saavy" FireFox users to pass our information on to others, our friends, co-workers, and the public. I am a network admin for a college, and I place both Firefox and IE on the student network. I see most students not using Firefox simply because they have no clue what it is. But once informed of it, most never go back to using Internet Explorer. I'm greatly anticipating FireFox 2.0. Viva La Firefox!!
  • GeekyGirl, on 10/12/2007, -11/+18It is great to see how the scrappy underdog has grown to 10% market share through innovation and grassroots, word of mouth advertising.
  • danpsmith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@ThinkFr33ly

    You should stick with firefox, if you want to be smart. It's not that IE was less secure, or didn't have tabbed browsing or didn't have this feature or that one. There's something more fundamental that everyone is missing. Even if Firefox falls behind in features, Firefox is open source. You and me and every user has a say in how it is developed. We can help with the development, help fix bugs, we can develop new features, etc. This is important in a browser, which is probably one of the most used apps on any system. IE stagnates innovation by being such a closed system and one that is so sluggishly updated. A popular, supported, open source browser is a win for everyone involved.
  • timmins, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Someone should inform W3C then... since they have Firefox up to 24%:

    http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
  • Gnascher, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Read W3C's disclaimers. They say that thier stats are going to be skewed because they have a higher-than-average number of tech-savvy users visiting thier site. As such ... the Firefox numbers will be higher for a site like W3Schools ... also sites like Slashdot.

    Digg? Well, judging how much Alexa likes Digg ... I'm guessing there's a lot of IE users here.
  • JamesGlover, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10The W3C's stats are based on visitors to their website, which tend to have a bigger proportion of geek users and web-developers than the average website. I imagine FF users on Digg are at an even higher percentage.
  • deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Actually when you have many people asking you how to fix their stupid spyware problems it's completely natural that you'd want to switch them to a more secure browser. I really don't care what software people use but people are going to ask me how to fix their stupid problems anyway.. so I tell them about Firefox. I really don't care if they switch or what.. to me it's just a way to avoid having a conversation about fixing spyware problems. I say "I dunno. I don't get popups or spyware. Try using Firefox" and that's that. Conversation over.
  • rileyjt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6You can bet that MS will start battling back for marketshare, starting with IE7. I myself will likely switch back for a couple weeks at least and see how it stacks up against FF. Of course, by then FF2 might very well be out as well and IE8 could very well be developed in record time :)

    Even if you don't care to use Firefox, I think at least a 10% marketshare for them is a very good thing as it will keep MS agressively updating their browser with new features and better security.
  • deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Doubtful.. Once you lose a customer/user it's very hard to get them back. Most people who make a choice to switch away from a mainstream product will not go back if not for simple pride alone. Firefox may stagnant at 10% but I seriously doubt it will ever go back down again. Even if IE7 is an improvement over IE6, people don't trust Microsoft to continue to keep their products updated and safe. How long will we have to wait for IE8? Another 5-6 years?
  • JesseJ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It is around 40% here in Finland and among the 16-27 year old population firefox is at 68%. The rest is mainly Opera. IE is only used to go get the installation files to firefox cause its pre-installed.
  • truebullfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I expect Firefox to stay around 10 % even when IE 7 comes out. I think the people who have firefox installed really do enjoy it and wont go back to IE. That 85 % of IE users wont switch to firefox once ie has tab browsing.
  • Lynn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5It has not gained any market share since July 2005.

    http://www.thecounter.com/stats/
  • honest777, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I love Firefox because it is opensource. People sharing for the common good, quicker patches, extensions, etc.
  • bash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"We beat Microsoft at their own game!"

    People don't rant about Apache, and it has held a clear majority of the web server market. It's not the market share that pisses people off, it's the company.
  • mistshadow2k4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3But how much market share will Vista have? My prediction -- not that much. It's way too resource-hungry for most people to want to upgrade. Sure, Dell and other companies will be pushing it with all their computers pre-loaded with Vista, but how many will buy a new Vista computer when they already have a powerful computer running XP? The market isn't the same as when XP came out because so many more people have computers now than then. This "OMG! Vista will be out soon!" excitement is marketing hype, not enthusiasm coming from potential customers. Virtually EVERYONE I've talked with about it, online and off, really couldn't care less (not to mention opining that it's laughable how behind MS is in getting it out).

    So IE 7 on Vista may run like a dream, but that's a dream lot of people may think is too costly to bother with. And personally, from what I've seen of IE 7 so far, it still doesn't beat Opera.
  • KicktheDonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Go get laid or something..."

    I do. Repeatedly and often. And yes, she uses Firefox, too.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3To play devil's advocate: Just because firefox is up to 10% doesnt mean IE is down to 85%...people can use both and theres even a plugin for firefox to do just that; open ie in a tab.
  • vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -1/+3note: w3c does not own or run w3schools.

    'Copyright 1999-2006 by Refsnes Data. All Rights Reserved.'
  • harley999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Personally I prefer opera, opera only takes about 15mb ram, while firefox usually takes 150mb ram which is a noticable slowdown on my 512mb system, also it saves your session without having to install a memory leaking save session plugin like in firefox, either way both browsers are better than ie.
  • Gnascher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@koshak

    I know because I took the time to peruse the linked-to site where I found this:
    http://marketshare.hitslink.com/

    Surprisingly, they explain how they aggregate thier data, and explain how thier stats are culled from a wide and diverse user base.
  • aura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I believe Opera is under-rated and IE over-rated, as many of the previous Opera versions had 'Identify as IE' set by default.

    TBH, it doesn't matter which browser is leading the race to me, I will design my websites to work on all major browsers regardless. (Well, the ones I can test, I don't have a mac to trial Safari)
  • astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.02/images/FF_92_firefox3_f.gif

    Needs to be updated...

    "Thats it their defences are breached... attack!!! **the song "mob rules starts to play" **"
    - Heavy Metal
  • golfobsession91, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2how are these stats done? i use firefox, ie, aol explorer, and msn explorer...does it count one for each? if it does, then its not really based on users, now is it...
  • Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Installed base is what they're talking about
  • tejaycar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4That really depends. CSS2 in IE7 is still poor. I realize it is still in Beta, and I pray that MS will fix that, but for the time being.... If IE7 Doesn't fix a lot of standards issues it will do little to change the mix. People will switch from IE6 to IE7, but I predict that few will switch from Opera, Firefox, or anything else.
  • h2d2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3How many times will Firefox reach 10%???
  • theblackgecko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Firefox users not only have to deal with the vast majority of webpages being designed for IE, but also some webpages which do not work in Firefox because they are specifically coded only to work with Internet Explorer. As Firefox usage increases, more webpages will be designed to be Firefox compatable. This is good news for people who prefer Firefox.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yet another ***** "source"

    Of course, when the next soruces states that it is lower, you all will say "That source is unreliable!"

    Get real. IT is not 10%. Not even close. MArked as inaccurate.
  • Aleks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'd be interested to see the breakdown for which browsers digg users use.
  • Lynxpro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If Google could just persuade with their 1% of shares of AOL to dump IE and switch to either FireFox or Opera as the standard AOL browser, you'd see IE sink and the other browsers rise dramatically. Add to that all of Corporate America and Government America offices where the IT departments restrict the adoption of FireFox and maintain IE on all the systems...like my office computer, for example.
  • Dingle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A lot of that 85% is businesses. In my company we do a lot of web based stuff that will not load properly inside of firefox. So we are stuck using IE no matter what.
  • GuineaPig, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6So if it's stagnating around 10%, Firefox growth has peaked?
  • lukas88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Let's face it, if everyone used firefox, us nerds wouldn't feel nearly so smug. Also, firefox would be the target of security attacks more then they are. I want to see open source prevail as much as anyone but lets all take a minute to appreciate the silver lining behind firefox's cloud of obscurity (compared to IE).
  • abbott75, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The thing is, I don't want anybody else using Firefox. It was more secure ect, but if 20-30% of the market is using it, it will quickly start becoming less and less secure.
  • anagami, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Firefox 70%
    Opera 22%
    Safari 7%
    Other 1% (Konqueror, Lynx, etc)
  • cadrass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What type of service are you talking about? Clearly you can see that X% of users of X service using X browser is not statistically relevant to browser proliferation regardless of the size of the sample.
  • orbitalleader, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Refsnes Data"

    Ah, the infamous W3schools troll. Every time there's a story about browser market share some troll from Refsnes Data pops up to push their own site. It is inevitable: you can literally look at EVERY browser story on slashdot and the w3schools troll pops up.

    I would have expected Digg readers to be smarter than to exptrapolate from such an obvious troll.
  • apantomimehorse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1>I don't know what all of the fuss is about with tab browsing though, i dont even use the tabs.

    Weirdo.
  • manonmars, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I will not be surpised if firefox actually starts to loose what ever it has gained so far. Firefox 2.0 feature set is a big disappointment.
  • milkandcookies, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Bigger then apple share of the computer market stay storng firefox you are #1.
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