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- Asianwaste, on 09/29/2008, -11/+152f me? No, f you submitter!
- MrViklund, on 09/29/2008, -7/+104Everyone is arguing that they have the fastest java script engine. I don't really care as long as I don't notice a big difference like the one when I upgraded from version 2.x to version 3 of Firefox. Lets face it. They are all fast, except IE.
- GamingForever, on 09/28/2008, -11/+70I would use it more if I could use my extensions on it.
- somestranger26, on 09/29/2008, -0/+43about:config
right-click, add new boolean
extensions.checkCompatibility (FALSE) - outofbeta, on 09/29/2008, -5/+45Can someone help me out here? I do this at the risk of getting furiously dugg down... I'm all for getting things faster. but how much of a difference does it actually make to get these rendering engines faster than they are now? I mean I load up a site and I don't think three to six seconds is bad. And I think it's mostly because I haven't downloaded all the data yet. Is java rendering really that slow? Will this help my phone's browser be as fast as my computer one day?
- cloudberries, on 09/29/2008, -1/+32It's more to do with the execution speed once a site has loaded too. Especially with things like GMail, and even Digg, which make heavy use of AJAX stuff, for more complicated operations once the site has loaded
I dugg you up for asking a decent question :) - HarryRag, on 09/29/2008, -0/+27Gotta love competition.
- mnortei, on 09/29/2008, -1/+23See this is why we love browser competition. The user wins.
- cheaptricks, on 09/29/2008, -5/+25*cue epic fight between Mozilla and Google, with dramatic John Williams choir music playing in the background*
Mozilla: It's over, Google... I have the higher userbase.
Google: You underestimate my browser...
Mozilla: Don't try it, Google.
*Google releases Chrome, Mozilla counters by releasing Firefox Minefield. Google is temporarily crippled and hindered*
Mozilla: YOU WERE MY BROTHER! - MrViklund, on 09/29/2008, -1/+21Maybe it's complicated work duuu? :P
- PeanutCheeseBar, on 09/29/2008, -0/+18I don't know outofbeta, but we're releasing on time.
- lithera, on 09/29/2008, -0/+16It makes a lot of difference.
If you look at a pages like digg's topics or gmail. There is very little actual content. As in stuff to read and buttons to click. Yet it can take up to seconds to render the whole thing. If you would write such a page in flat html it would take only a fraction of a second to render it.
In my browsing experience it makes a world of difference. I want to see a page near instant as soon as my browser found the server. Another factor is that slow rendering pages drives users away which is bad for a site-owners income.
So yes, faster javascript is important, better user experience and more room for dev's to make neat things to attract said user. - darkened, on 09/29/2008, -1/+16Actually you will notice a huge difference from firefox 3.0.x to the one with the new javascript engine although I'm confused as I thought the 3.1 alpha was Shiretoko not minefield.
- Colindean, on 09/29/2008, -0/+15Keep complaining to Adobe and hopefully they'll eventually do it.
- swern425, on 09/29/2008, -3/+17I don't know why this is being buried. I completely agree. I just can't get used to being without mouse gestures, WebMail notifier, or the download statusbar extensions (among a few others).
Only Adblock Plus was compatible when I downloaded the latest nightly of Minefield last week.
I do find Minefield to be much faster though. - JazminMillion, on 09/29/2008, -0/+12Make me wonder if my computer is as fast as all these new web browsers? Fire Fox is always been the best browser in my opinion.
- dfunct, on 09/29/2008, -1/+13Why does nobody seem to use the webkit nightly in their comparisons?
- Thue, on 09/29/2008, -3/+14Chrome still wins in my book, because it runs each tab in its own process. So if I have a heavy javascript app in one tab, I will not feel it while using another tab (until the point where it saturates all my processor's 4 cores).
- swern425, on 09/29/2008, -0/+113.1 is Shiretoko. Minefield is for nightly builds and is the codename for the testing browser (since they admit it may be buggy--hence "walking through a minefield.")
- sexybobo, on 09/29/2008, -0/+10Mean while google is making large sums of money off of both browsers.
- arunforce, on 09/29/2008, -0/+10:'(
- MacHarborGuy, on 09/29/2008, -0/+9especially since no one would have been talking about this if Google hadn't have put out Chrome. :D Gotta get the ball rolling
- cloudberries, on 09/29/2008, -0/+9I'm glad I got burned, think of all the things we learned for the people who are still alive.
- K4emic, on 09/29/2008, -3/+1211 Nazis.
- ramsinks.com, on 09/29/2008, -0/+9I'm glad that now the browsers are fighting for "fastest". = win for us.
Go go! - somestranger26, on 09/29/2008, -0/+9That's probably the codename for it, but all of the nightly builds of Firefox use the name "Minefield", like the early FF3 alphas and all the nightlies were called Minefield.
- SovereignGFC, on 09/29/2008, -1/+9Too bad the x64 Minefield builds don't have Flash. That's the ONLY problem I ran into with an x64 build of Minefield for Windows...
- muff7, on 09/29/2008, -1/+9Faster than WebKit?
- gritta, on 09/29/2008, -0/+8Dugg for:
Looking at the benchmarks on Andreas Gal’s blog, it’s good to see that in Andreas’ own words: “No matter which metric you choose to apply, Firefox now has the [most] fastest[er] javascript engine in the world [evar]”. - drgruney, on 09/29/2008, -0/+7Um... they haven't countered with Minefield.
Minefield has been out forever... it's a testbed. - elementop, on 09/29/2008, -0/+7It was a joke, which I, at least, found somewhat amusing. Don't be so retentive.
- Ragzouken, on 09/29/2008, -0/+7Really? I thought he was genuinely saying f you and this guy was genuinely insulted. Thanks for clearing this up, I fear I may have made a fool out of myself otherwise.
- webcrumb, on 09/29/2008, -1/+7Not long. They bought it.
- renegadeafk, on 09/29/2008, -1/+7because with nightly tester tools all those extensions work fine. if you are using an alpha you should know how to use tester tools or force compatibility.
- infinitexx, on 09/29/2008, -3/+9Not good enough for use now, but I'll keep an eye on this as it develops
- iofthestorm, on 09/29/2008, -0/+5that's Adobe's fault. they've been slacking on 64 bit Flash for two years.
- webcrumb, on 09/29/2008, -0/+5That's the idea. If you enjoy minefields you'll enjoy alphas.
You'll be even less likely to install the Thunderbird alpha nightly:
Shredder - Ericdigital, on 09/29/2008, -0/+5shiretoko is build 3.1 and minefield is a code name they used for there nightly alpha builds. Like someone mentioned when firefox 3 was in alpha it was called minefield. It's simply a code name they use for early builds of new products =]. They call it minefield because it's usually buggy as it is early in dev.
- sexybobo, on 09/29/2008, -0/+4if it wasn't for gmail we would all still have 10 or 15 meg inbox instead of 10 meg attachments.
- darkened, on 09/29/2008, -0/+4It's good to hear you submitted a valid bug that led to it being resolved!
- iericg, on 09/29/2008, -1/+5I just downloaded Minefield for OSX and I think Chrome is faster. Two reason..
1. The auto completion function in the Nav Bar is better in Chrome. For example if I type "d" then it immediately auto completes to digg.com.
2. Pages load faster - zwaldowski, on 09/29/2008, -0/+4Same with IE, too.
- ssulrey, on 09/29/2008, -0/+4Since most browsers interpret Javascript at runtime, it it much slower then compiled languages. You are right, in many cases this doesn't matter, but as web applications get more complex and do more things, it makes a huge difference. Take for example an ajax operation that uses js to render a (really) large chunk of xml. On IE6, it max'es out your cpu and locks up your browser for ~2 minutes. On Chrome, it takes 6s.
- neonfunk, on 09/29/2008, -0/+4faster than squirrelfish extreme? that's the real question
- DomZy, on 09/29/2008, -0/+4I've been using the nightly's for a few weeks now, and it is definitely an improvement over previous firefox versions. I am loving in particular the faster cold starts.
The new javascript engine is a bit buggy. I had to disable it for a week or so because netvibes.com was crashing, and it's my homepage. But I went onto the relevant IRC channel and everyone was very helpful, so I submitted the bug and there was a patch within about 30 hours, which was pretty cool. - comrade693, on 09/29/2008, -1/+5They've only been working on Tracemonkey for about two months. Do you know how long google spent on V8?
- Tobey, on 09/29/2008, -0/+3There's a fix for that..
Install Nightly Tester Tools https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/654 ...
Click "Make All Compatible"
Done. - SSUK, on 09/29/2008, -0/+3Just a word of caution, however, you are using software which hasn't undergone an awful lot of testing. Some of your extensions may crash or corrupt Minefield, so you're best to pick and choose only the essentials you require. Just beware and be careful, you should be fine.
- kjubik, on 09/29/2008, -0/+3That's a feature.
- arrenlex, on 09/29/2008, -0/+3Firefox 3.0 does that already. Try it -- go open two Firefox windows and drag a tab from one to the other.
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