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- userundefine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31P1 -- Mandatory, Item will not ship without these : improve memory usage
- NinjaNoodles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Yeah, no kidding ^ that memory usage thing has got to be addressed properly this time around.
As for the spell-as-you-type, yeah that is a handy feature, particularly in light of a previous Digg story "AOL has destroyed the English language with chat speak" I know I need it sometimes, I'm ashamed to admit. :o( - dgritsko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13i believe that "tear off tabs" means adding the ability to move a tab that you're currently browsing to its own separate window.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9that's just theme polishing.. windows and osx users (should) care more about looks than substance than linux people do. :)
- phpirate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11spell-as-you-type sounds awesome.... I can't wait to try out all these new features.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Don't be ashamed to admit your faults... most people should be ashamed that they don't even acknowledge them privately, never mind in public.
- comrade693, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is outdated and inaccurate since places will not be a part of it.
Sources:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/ben/archives/010109.html
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/4b8e7bafecccbc10/ - michaelstone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I've had some problems and I don't use any extensions. (Ooh, bad me!) I still find that it uses more memory than IE on Windows and Safari on Mac. Still, even with the memory problem, I'd take it over IE anyday.
- JaytB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have to say that most of the features sound pretty exciting (to me at least).
Personally, since I'm a heavy 'tab-user', I'm looking forward for functions like 'add visual animation enhancements for tab re-ordering, preview, etc' or 'add ability to tear off tabs' (whatever that could mean)
All in all I wonder how much of these enhancements going to 'magically' appear in IE7 - Rigbymatt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3:content sniffing to detect when content served as XML or text is actually a feed
yay! - thirdtenor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4woah - a site design that doesnt break when zooming (CTRL " ") in firefox, ill digg just for that
i do hope the memory usage is adressed as well - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2you can also set an option to start searching like that as soon as you start typing, or you can hit the "/" key and bring it up as well.. very handy.
- Jammerdelray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I just found out if you hit ctrl f a apple like search box pops up on the bottom of the browser window
- kramer3d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2that is the beauty of open-source
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3 P2 -- All other Linux variants
Make that a P1 please. - Razerious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ screen:
... and in firefox through extensions - soogy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3That's what I said when I first read it. Spell-as-you-type is going to be awesome.
Some other notable features:
P1 B1 improve memory usage
P1 A2 UI for managing search plugins
P1 A2 heuristic in-browser phishing protection that provides warnings (protect the morons, like those "do not eat" labels)
P2 A2 improve extension management experience to simplify tasks of adding, removing, updating, disabling and configuring extensions
P1 A2 restore session after an application forced restart
P2 A2 restore session after a crash (that avoids a crash-restart-crash loop)
And all of the "Visual Refresh" updates. - Psykus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I've never had an issue with Firefox taking up a bunch of memory. It may just be the extensions I use...all you people complaining about memory usage, what extensions do you have installed? Any at all?
There was an article featured on Digg a while back showing that a lot of the most popular extensions had extensive (no pun intended) memory leaks. I personally just use Adblock Plus, the Filterset.G updater for Adblock, and Bugmenot. - quanticle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2While it has become better, Firefox's memory usage is still far too high. Why should my browser be consuming 80+ MB of RAM when I'm only looking at plain text and images?
Yeah, 80 MB is better than 128 MB, but its still far too high in my book, especially when Opera delivers the same content at a comparable speed while using about 1/2 the memory. - TigerX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This move should be rather unsurprising if you've followed Firefox's development in the past... (FeedViewer anyone?)
I remember people in the MozillaZine forums guessing that Places would eventually be removed from the 2.0 Branch (and I actually believed the blogs at the time and disagreed -- stupid me). - fa_pa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4People please before complaining about the memory usage and claiming that IE is better do the comparison right. If you have (like me) 25 tabs open the memory useage WILL be high but I guess all the people saying IE is better there never opened 25 IE's at the same time. Try to do that and you will be amazed by how less Firefox really takes.
- thirdtenor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1At this point would consider 80mb to be good... I think extensions are the main problem, but what would FF be without the extensions?
I guess it would just be not IE - jabo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2yes, but its more sad than funny-- why has it taken them so long to begin to address the memory problem? for people on older machines who open lots of windows this bug has made firefox practically unusable. i switched my parents computer to opera because of this, and it seems much faster in all respects
- greenknight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Since only 2 votes for this bug have been cast in 2 years, it doesn't appear that many users are concerned about it. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this to be fixed...
- phileplanet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Someone ran off with the Bookmark History section.
- jo42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They completely missed:
#1 - must not crash at least once an hour - crackSquirrel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1From what I heard about memory issues and usage, is that alot of the issues are from the current Gecko engine, and that as they move up to the newer Gecko, the memory bugs will go away.
If I remember right:
Firefox 1.5 = Gecko 1.8
Firefox 2.0 = Gecko 1.8.1
Firefox 3.0 = Gecko 1.9 (FULL Gecko 1.9, not just some backported features) - Rmplstltskn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Everyone sounds pretty excited about the spellcheck thing but I would rather not have it at all. I hope there's an option to uninstall it. I hate having "features" I never use take up resources.
Also, this struck me as kinda cool:
P1 A1 mozilla.com server-side resources for hosting the blocklist - williamkusumo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Before anything, they should really fix this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229089
A simple bug but more than 2 years have passed and it's still a bug! Sorry, just ranting because one of my project requires this recently and I have to do ugly hacks! So if anyone could accelerate this bug fix, please do, I thank you from the bottom of my heart :) - Ourasi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I tested with (maddox.xmission.com) open, just under 30 MB with 24 extensions. Some 5 - 6 extensions worked without any modifications. Others made compatible with Mr. Tech Local Install. Spell-as-you-type works fine (in Finnish also) with Spellbound extension.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8)
Gecko/20060424 BonEcho/2.0a1 - Build ID: 2006042417 - michaelstone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I admit, I haven't done the IE test it a while, but if I remember correctly, I used one page on both. It was much larger memory usage on Firefox. However, I just redid the Safari v. Firefox test, and well, see for yourself:
-Firefox: 51.55 MB of memory
-Safari: 35.92 MB of memory
Both had a single website (maddox.xmission.com) open. Oh, and Firefox had NO extensions at all. - Devz0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0that's a load of crap. opera is a modern browser. don't compare it with firefox 1.0. just because it is more efficient doesn't mean it's not modern. stop trying to defend your precious firefox with garbage.
- evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wtf? Can we decrease the priority on *icons* and increase them on something worthwhile?
P1 A2 new icons for new features
P1 B1 new icons for all themes - IncognitoCraven, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah, woohoo! Meanwhile, where the hell is roaming?! Mozilla through away the one feature that got lots of multi-system and enterprise users to switch from Netscape 3 to Netscape 4 and they
*still* haven't fixed it. Apparently some SeaMonkey beta has it, but not quite up to snuff? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2lol @ memory leaks finally being a priority. Just a few more months before you'll be disappointed again because only 5 out of xxx memory leaks were fixed.
- person, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Opera rarely has issues with zooming. I don't know why all the other browsers aren't capable of doing as well...
- affanjam, on 10/12/2007, -4/+298% of my extensions don't work with Bon Echo.
- argon25, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1firefox is designed to be a modern browser for modern computers. If you are using an older computer with not much memory, you may be better off using version Firefox 1.0x or opera
- accidental, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Yay another Firefox 2 article making the digg front page. Havent seen one of these in AGES!
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2thats true, but firefox doesnt function very well on linux either...
- screen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Sounds like most of the tab features outlined are exactly what exists today in Opera....
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Linux polish is priority 3, behind vista and osx. Thats pretty lame. IMO, it should be at least at p2 like osx is.
I think ill stick to konqueror. It already has spell-as-you-type and i dont have to bother with firefox, which really isnt all that great under both gnome and kde. I was hoping this release would fix that, but apparently not. - MyBotPiko, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6I've got that in Safari right now using the built in spell checker in OS X.
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