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Drupal 5.0 is out - Happy Birthday!

drupal.org — The Drupal open-source project has released version 5 of their content management framework. Major improvements were made in usability, looks, performance and flexibility and this is without question the best Drupal ever. It is also Drupal's 6th birthday, so congratulations to the entire community!

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  • robertDouglass, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Congratulations! Does the release automatically come with birthday cookies? http://buytaert.net/happy-sixth-birthday-drupal
    • TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -18/+2@cocaboy

      I hope you get caught and put into a prison full of gay pedo's who will butt rape you to the point you feel like a 12 year old red headed step child.
    • shyboyswin, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1cacaboy has just made my blocked list.
    • JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Nice cookies.
      cacaboy long ago made my block list and by you guys replying with such fury and idiocy yourselves only makes me want to block you as well. Don't feed the trolls, block them and move on.
    • undoIT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Got a couple sites on RC1 and RC2 to upgrade to Stable :) Let the web development begin!
  • BioALIEN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1After months of hard work the beast is finally out of the closet. Did someone mention cookies? *drool*
  • berkes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Congrats folks. My personal favorite newishness: jQuery. It rules. Big time (/me hopes digg devels will realize jQeury can finally solve the incredible slowness of Diggs JS 'stuff'.)
  • NikLP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Best thing ever - just in time for my first Drupal projects! Like, starting today!
    • berkes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Note that it will take a while, maybe months, for all the contributions, such as themes and modules, to catch up with the new release. Hence the option of using 'proven technology' (4.7) for a new project should never be put aside just like that. Advice: Evaluate properly what it is you really need.
    • guytoronto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I too am about to undertake a new project with a friend. We had tinkered with Drupal a few weeks back, and were just about to settle on it (after comparing to the likes of Typo3, Joomla, and more).

      Since there is no time sensitivity in our project, we're going to jump on the Drupal 5 wagon right now, and see where it goes. Wee doggie!
    • idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This may be great for you guys, but I literally just finished a 4.7 project, and it was about to go online when I saw this in my feed reader. *****.
  • loffeecover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hip, hip... Hooray!

    Videocasts at:
    - http://drupal.org/videocasts
  • bohemicus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is a huge announcement. It's exciting under the hood (jQuery, access arbitration), but what people may not realize that the new default theme is likely to influence the web for a generation (about a year). I've already seen a dozen webs that use it as their default - and strangely enough - unlike most templates - the easy color modification makes them all look just unique enough. Throw in the new automatic installer and module tracking and you got yourself a winner.
  • ekso, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Worray! Long live open software!

    But... why nobody placed an "About" tab on the homepage with a couple of lines resume of what is Drupal for people that never heard about it?

    And... WHAT IS Drupal?? :)
    • ekso, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Btw, I am about to switch to Linux, but that is something I see that plagues open software initiatives: it seems nobody cares much for the noobs. Open software will never get mainstream unless that happens (together with the oh so praised user-friendly interfaces)
    • ekso, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6aha! http://drupal.org/about

      but it could still have a tab or something up there anyway... :]
    • sepeck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3No, as the front page itself had this huge Orange box describing what Drupal is and with a link to About Drupal in it, we thought that was enough.
  • BigApple, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2what?!! I have just yesterday updated to Drupal 5.0 RC2 and today they release final. Any way, updates are goooood. :D
  • squirrelza, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1I know this is off topic, but what would you guys suggest is the best hosted blog? Blog.com, WordPress.com, Blogger.com or whatever else there is. Thanks!
  • Amything, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4What are the major differences of Wordpress and Drupal?
    • benedett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Wordpress is awesome for a blog. Drupal is good if you need lots of users, multiple blogs, multiple group blogs, a more complex category system, and need your site to do anything else non-bloggy.
    • nathandigriz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7It is very hard or nearly impossible to build a community in Wordpress. You need a lot of third party software and plugins. Drupal can be a minimalistic CMS like Wordpress but also bounce to the other end and be an out of the box community site. So if it is just you and always will be you just blogging then Wordpress is fine. But if its you and you might expect to have to handle other users or a group then go with Drupal.
    • xamox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Imagine for a moment that wordpress decided it would be a good idea to start doing steroids........that is drupal.
    • afreytes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wordpress is like a lake. If you like skinny dipping, I mean blogging, then go for it on Wordpress.

      Drupal is just like the name says, a drop of water. But put in some modules... and then you got the f&^%ing ocean ready for some power surfing...

      Like someone here on digg explained quite insightfully... Drupal is a CMS construction kit...
  • Maggoo, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Drupal 5 = teh sex.

    no honestly, it does.
  • ucg1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Cool, though I have to wait until the spam module gets updated for 5.0 before I can upgrade.
  • chadu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Where are the "WTF is Drupal?" comments? They are usually a fixture in posts about everyone's favorite opensource content management system.

    Congratulations Drupal team. 5.0 came out quickly and has a lot of great features that will only cement your place as the #1 open source php content management system.
    • cvweiss, on 10/15/2007, -0/+6That was my first thought. But instead of posting "WTF is Drupal?" I did something unbelievable... I went and looked it up and found out for myself!
  • ImTheDarkcyde, on 10/15/2007, -13/+2why do you all think being open source makes it so special? how many of you have actually looked at the source code.

    whatever happened to "free"- was it not buzzwordy enough?
    • Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Something can be free (as in beer) without being open source. However being open source implies being free (as in beer). So saying "open source" conveys more information than just saying "free".

      Of course, I haven't bothered to look at what license it uses, so it could well be Free, as well as just being free.

      Hope that helps
    • robertDouglass, on 10/15/2007, -0/+8Drupal is 100% GPL code. Only GPL code can be hosted in Drupal's CVS repositories. We care about free (as in speech).
    • ImTheDarkcyde, on 10/15/2007, -6/+1you're so full of *****.
    • analytik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2ImTheDarkcyde, are you really brainwashed, or are you just roleplaying?

      Being a developer, I know that open source matters. Even if you necessarily don't have to understand it, open source products influence our everyday lives, even if we don't use them.

      And yeah, I've looked at the source code of Drupal. It's not a miracle that will solve all your problem, but it's one of the most flexible CMS I've seen (and I've seen dozens of them). So shut up or bring up some facts that it's not you who's "so full of *****".
  • Rickard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I've been curious about Drupal for some time now. Maybe this new release will finally make me download and install it.

    I'm not sure how capable it is though. I've been working with Typo3 for some time now (which is ridiculously capable, but has a very steep learning curve), but I don't particularly like the Typo3 backend interface. Question is, can Drupal do this?

    - Work "backwards" from a fixed (X)HTML page template? Essentially, what I want is to take a static HTML page that contains markers such as TITLE, LAST_UPDATED and MAIN_CONTENT and replace these markers with the actual content.

    - Support deep menu structures (4 levels) where the top menu level resides in tabs at the top of the page and the other three levels in a tree somewhere else on the page?

    - Support custom plugins. For example, I need to have certain pages on my site where I present data from a Microsoft SQL Server. On other pages, I need to consume external XML web services.
    • robertDouglass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Drupal can do just about anything. It is especially capable for those who like to customize (with PHP/JS/CSS or whatnot). The biggest hurdle for moving from the Typo3 world into the Drupal world is the absolutely different ways of thinking about websites that the two foster. Getting Drupal to behave like Typo3 (or the reverse) will not be easy.

      Good luck trying Drupal, and please write "Typo3 eye for the Drupal guy" about your experience so we can all learn from it.
    • fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3IOW, unless you're willing to do a lot of customization and coding, no.

      Drupal can do that stuff if you want to code it, but it can't do any of that stuff out of the box.
    • skor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1MS SQL is not supported ... yet. But they're working on it: http://drupal.org/node/74308
      I'm sure they'd appreciate any testing support you could provide.
    • BioALIEN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Do your research before you dive in. Drupal has an equally steep learning curve. So try it out and choose what you feel most comfortable with. Also it doesn't hurt to try out alternatives too.
  • theotherlight, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Last time I tried to use Drupal it just came off as bloatware. At the time I certainly didn't feel like going through miles of documentation and thousands of forum posts and how-to's just do a few things at a slightly more advanced level. For most people doing simple blogs, it's an easy setup, but there still seemed like a LOT of unnecessary features. If you wanted to take a few steps further, then you had to drudge through the bloat.

    I'm really hoping that this new version fixed up a lot of that, which seemed like a major issue to me. I always jumped the bandwagon to Wordpress because the code was simple, very little bloat, and it was easy to take a base install and turn it into whatever I wanted.

    I'm willing to give the new one a try, because it definitely seems like they put a lot of effort into a stable, more sensible release that would be great for very long term websites.
    • GerryBot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Drupal certainly seems overcomplicated the first time you look at it, but with a bit of poking at the various features, it's actually a pretty good CMS. I like the fact that it does blogs and forums as part of the main package.
    • vertice, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Drupal core is actually fairly light. But even in there will be lots of features you just dont need (like forums etc.).

      Drupal is basically like a set of lego blocks, that you can build almost any website out of. It is ridiculously modular, so if you don't need a feature, just turn off the module and it won't bother you.
    • texpundit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"For most people doing simple blogs, it's an easy setup, but there still seemed like a LOT of unnecessary features. If you wanted to take a few steps further, then you had to drudge through the bloat."

      If you're only doing a simple blog, why in God's name are you using Drupal? Wordpress is better suited for that.
    • analytik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Drupal isn't actually aimed at lonely bloggers, although it does provide platform for them without much hassle (but I blog on WP). Drupal is aimed mostly at online communities (and Drupal.org is nice example). But it has so much to offer - I know for some people (esp. those not skilled in using powerful CMS) Drupal may offer too many options, but still most of the functionality is modular, so I sure wouldn't consider it a bloatware.
    • dmitriyvoz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0The author has mentioned very much a vital topic today. It seems to me that the problematics of this clause enables to reflect and draw conclusions. You can as to look sites in Russian which mention this theme: http://www.rolid.org http://www.se-ua.com
  • TeraForce, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3Last time I tried Drupal, I found there extensions were ridiculously hard to install, especially for windows users because you had to compile the code. And if you can have success with Typo3, you can do anything. I really liked the concept but could never get past noob stage with it. I found E107 to be the easiest full-featured OpenSourceCMS out there, and plugins are very easy to install. They also have a great support community.
    • frando, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8You must have gotten something wrong here. Drupal and all drupal modules are written in PHP, which is a scripting language so you will never have to compile anything. Actually, module install is ridiculously easy with Drupal: Just download it (from http://drupal.org/project/Modules), unzip it, drop it in your modules folder and activate it on the module administration page. That's all, everything else is done automatically!
    • Rosamunda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When was your "last time"?
      Because installing Drupal is a piece of cake!
      You should give it another shot.
      I´ve tried E107 and didn´t liked it at all.
      BTW, I don´t think this comment from Teraforce (http://digg.com/software/Drupal_5_0_is_out_Happy_Birthday#c4748009?cshow=c4748009) should get all these thumbs-down... this guy doesn´t know what he´s mising.
      DRUPAL ROCKS!
  • Blabster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Now if it only had good theme choice like wordpress i would switch!

    Lets wait and see...
  • toggo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Some screen shots here http://drupal.org/image
  • orangery, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2WTF is Drupal?
  • NanoStuff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Drupal + Ruby, some day?
    • antinomia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1RoR for Drupal you ask, NanoStuff? http://groups.drupal.org/node/1460
    • beforeIforget, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2There's Radiant CMS out there which uses RoR as the core language. I like it for simple websites since it's got a nice layout and is relatively painless on the end user with some slight modifications. It's really lacking some key features which hopefully will come in future versions. I like the roadmap: the core will be kept simple and all features will be plugins. If you like simple, it's the way to go. If you want everything and the kitchen sink, Drupal is the way to go. http://www.radiantcms.org
  • CalebG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Take Drupal 5 for a spin.

    http://drupal5-0.highervisibilitywebsites.com/

    Admin username/password: demo

    Have fun. :)
  • gmurran, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Excellent
  • kasa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Great ! This announcement made my day!!
  • starkos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Wow, what an amazing update this is. The last version was already pretty good, but this is - wow.
  • binodc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Drupal Must be the benchmark for other CMS Developers!!
  • godie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3LOL. I just installed RC2 from scratch about 3 hours ago and there it is on the front page already.. Drupal 5.0 is out! ** bangs head on the wall **
  • andre75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow. Cool. Time for updates again.
    4.7 defenitely had problems with performance. The abstraction layer caused it to be flagged by some webhosts for good reason (Some pages on my sites would generate 300 or more MySQL queries -- mainly those are third party modules though). Seems 5 has some performance tweaks that hopefully will handle this better.
  • robmilne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Great sw that keeps getting better. I don't think it will be too long before it becomes a buzz word for non-techies.
  • clo75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Congratulation to the team, Drupal is such a great work
  • saso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thank you Dries and the team. This is truly a remarkable achievement.
    We recently released a drupal 4.7 site and I cant wait to upgrade it to 5.
    Take a well deserved break!

    Also thanks to Lullabot team, and the Drupal Dojo for sharing the knowledge.
  • speechpoet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Best news I've had all week!
  • king1337, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Been looking forward to this for quite some time. Good work Drupal Community!!
  • ishmal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is Image handling built in yet? I tried installing a few weeks ago, but the lack of image support turned me off. But I read that it was "any day now," so I have had a lot of anticipation for the release.
    • cbrumelle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just use the image module (http://drupal.org/project/image).
    • ishmal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@cbrumelle

      I knew that somebody would mention installing a module. Heh. Done that. I like Drupal a lot, but images on a site are something too organic to be decoupled like that. I'll wait until it's part of the "core" package.
    • rickvug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ishmal

      Don't let installing a module turn you off. Modularity is the whole point of a system such as Drupal! Don't expect the next release to include MORE stuff either. If anything, I suspect Drupal 6 will have LESS modules than Drupal 5.

      Don't worry about conflicts or overlap between different modules. Drupal contributers often work together on important modules rather than forking at every opportunity. Generally, there is a "star" module for each type of functionality. The Image module is one such star.

      I hope this helped.
  • bpocanada, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It won't be too long before Drupal 5.0 becomes the tool that Marketing Department of every Fortune 500 company will be using.
    • rickvug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well I'd love to see this happen I think it is the medium and small size companies that will adopt Drupal. Fortune 500 companies have the resources to maintain their own code-bases or buy systems that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

      Who Drupal really benefits is small and medium sized companies ("The fortune 5 million" to quote 37signals). Open source development means that small companies can collaborate to create a product that can compete with the expensive proprietary systems out there. Open source levels the playing field.

      That isn't to say that smart Fortune 500 companies wont take advantage of Drupal. Just look at Yahoo!, MTV and IBM's recent use of the system. I'm sure that there will be a few more cases by the end of the year.
  • drupaldesigns, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0Lovely.. we will love to work on Migration opportunities from others who want to move from Drupal prior version to 5.0 or from other CMS to Drupal.

    Drupal Designs
    http://www.DrupalDesigns.com
  • jharris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How did you know it was my birthday?
  • nhurtley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I can't wait to give this a run. It's been a long-time-coming.
  • rousehouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+33 flawless site upgrades to the new Drupal version 5 so far. You can't beat that. Congrats to Drupal on this milestone!
  • RobLoach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Great work! I love the new features.
  • friendhpk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Drupal rules. It be great! Thanks for the drupal community for such an awsome release. However, it will still be a couple of months before existing sites would be able to upgrade... hope that will be easy enought.
  • noidph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1From the Philippines, Happy Birthday, and Congratulations to Drupal and its developers! Can't wait to test this latest version. :)
  • Vyoma, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I am just waiting for some of the plugins to be ported to be compatible with 5.0.

    >< Can hardly wait to begin the upgrade.
  • olav, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yes! http://drupalsite.org
  • lepton, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I'm delighted Drupal 5 is out, I'll be updating my drupal-based site to it. Myallo.com is the first real discovery engine site that uses neural network techniques to find interesting web articles for you, without you having to look for them. Currently, it is using drupal 4.7, and that's been working out well! Mike from http://www.myallo.com
  • discursives, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Drupal 5.0 ... the perfect storm! I love the Drupal community and I love what it's all about and I love Drupal! Drupal rocks!
    Alex from http://peerproducers.com
  • huyashamasha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0HB2u! Great product, I run 6 sites on it!
  • ponosocheg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I loooove drupal!!!
  • abalith, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Wow! I didn't even guess it's an old CMS...
  • tuaregorama, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Wonderful! Rubbish.
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