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- Andy.D, on 10/12/2007, -3/+60It's a release candidate of a release candidate.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17stevetures, there actually ARE memory leaks. However,m ost of them are either directly or indirectly caused by extensions.
And yes, Beta 2 and RC1 RC both have improved regarding memory usage. - clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16@ilyag
In the begining there were lots of leaks. Granted it was still a new program.
Most of them have been fixed. The team has done a wonderful job of fixing major problems.
HOWEVER, since the "memory leaks" got so much press, when common users started hearing about it, it was mostly fixed by then. But these people that were just coming into this info checked their memory useage and saw it was high and just immediatly assumed it was a "memory leak". Thus creating more negative but ultimatly wrong, press. But what most people are actually seeing is Firefox caching webpages in ram, before the hard drive, for quick retrevial. Not memory leaks.
The major memory leaks have been fixed. But by the time the majority of users heard about memory leaks in Firefox, they were wrong in assuming that page cacheing was part of the memory leaks. With the page cacheing you can limit or disable.
So for the most part, yes the large memory useage is a feature, not a bug. You can get off the bandwagon now. - strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17People, in titles "the" and "of" are not capitalized. It looks stupid to do so.
- stevetures, on 10/12/2007, -14/+26not a memory leak... just cached webpages in memory intentionally.
I bet you like saying memory leak though. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13First of all, that second picture is not the Firefox 2 theme. Secondly, IE7 came out after Firefox, so blame Microsoft.
- dbug, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Damn. Looks like I have missed the last Release Candidate of this first Release Candidate of the RC1 of Firefox 2.
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10For those with Beta2, I installed over the top and it worked fine though I had to force my extensions to be compatible again.
The new icons + new look of the tabs (Though very Vista-esque) are nice.
Is it just me, or when you hit Ctrl+Tab it goes the opposite way now ?! - superheroboy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13I don't think he was. Again, the article says:
"Technically I should say Firefox 2 RC1 RC1 but I guess it would make more sense if I refer to it as the first Release Candidate of Firefox RC1. "
Did you bother to read the article? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Yes, I read the article. It's funny how people blur the lines of what a release candidate is. The Firefox team having a release candidate for a release candidate is hilarious - why not call it RC1, and if it's not up to snuff, have an RC2?
MS did something similar when it released RC1 of Vista. They basically said they know it's not finished yet, so expect things to change. Odd, I thought a release candidate meant they it's your first "try" at releasing a final version and, barring any issues, it will be. - superheroboy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16Did you bother to read the article?
- afx1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2.0rc1-candidates/rc1/
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14The first release candidate of RC1. Is that like RC1 RC1?
- clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I read the article and haveing a Release Cantidate of an RC1 is redundant. RC1 IS a release cantidate. So having a release cantidate of release cantidate 1 is redundant and confusing.
- danieldaniel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I like the new icons, but someone really needs to fix the Windows 98ish looking forms on OS X.
- MikeKnoop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Firefox is one piece of software I am reluctant to download the betas, RCs of, etc. This is not because I don't have faith in the non-final releases, but because the betas tend to break compatability with extensions. And even if they don't -- you still have to wait for the extension author to release an update.
-Mike - usherzx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9what is the difference in this and Beta 2 ?
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5So, infinitely "caching" useless data long after the source page was closed is a "feature"? Yeah right. What purpose does it serve?
This is not the same as the page-caching feature! It's obvious what that does, the "memory leak" is lost data that Firefox can't even seem to address.
I turned off ALL page and history caching, but when browsing graphics-intensive sites Firefox will retain useless data, with memory usage climbing infinitely, until the browser has to be restarted. This can be duplicated every time, do you need this demonstrated to you personally?!
Firefox is my primary browser, I LIKE Firefox, you fanboys need to stop denyingt the existence memory leak because you're not helping anything. The Firefox devs should be held accountable just like any other dev. Fix the memory leak! - Araxen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Just download the Nightly Tester Tools Extension and you'll never have to worry about it.
http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/buildid/index.html - mmortal03, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Is it just me, or when you hit Ctrl+Tab it goes the opposite way now ?!"
I think it is just you, because this would be a massive change, and would have already been implemented in the nightlies for days, and I have not experienced it. - actionsketch, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10He was obviously joking. It's a mockery of the grammar used, RC1 is obviously the first release candidate... so saying the first release candidate of RC1 is redundant.
- theMurdocVolta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Its just you.
- toekneebullard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is the first time I've used FF2 in any shape or form, and I like it alot. Now I just gotta figure out how to adjust my extensions...
- n1ckel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Are you sure someone hasn't installed "Office Poltergiest"?
http://officepoltergeist.com/mozilla.html - glasgowm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I've managed to download a German version somehow.
heh - lazypeon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not to derail the article, but this is a prime example of how ridiculous versioning systems have gotten. A release candidate of a release candidate? Is there any particular reason why they can't just use the build number, seeing as to how it's really no different than any other build leading up to the actual release candidate? (Other than drumming up press coverage, of course.) This reminds me of the creation of additional decimal places -- i.e v.1.01.00 -- as if they had enough releases to fill in the first pair of decimals, which typically don't go past the 1.1x mark. Why are people so shy of using numbers past 1? I mean, just because the machine language is binary doesn't mean you have to imitate it with your versioning system.
While it might not have any impact on project management, it is starting to get really annoying. - TrevorBradley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Warning! AdBlock isn't compatible with this version of Firefox. That alone was enough to make me turn around and downgrade back to 1.5.0.7.
The good thing: After an uninstall and reinstall, everything was still there. Adblock settings, home page, etc. - evolseven, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4to OBKenobi:
Accountable to who? the millions of paying customers that they have?? oh thats right firefox is FREE.. if you really want this problem fixed so badly.. which is sounds like if it is a problem than maybe you should volunteer some of your own time to track down the offending code and fix the problem,,
I'm sorry but I hate people who demand things from free software (as in beer), even though most of the firefox dev's are paid.. mozilla has absolutely no responsibility to fix any problems for you. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Are you using Tor? A number of the Tor servers are German so they may have assigned you a German copy based on your Tor IP.
- clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Works for me. Try the extensive forums dedicated to Firefox.
- kris33, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3But FF 2 has a new extension-code, so that should be fixed
- Zero456, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Is it me, or is this whole conversation getting redundant?
- ngmcs8203, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Looks a bit better than 2.0b2 with the tan/brown scheme.
- b.m.a.n, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I just installed it, and every page I load, they jump up and down. they wont stop??
Anyone else getting this? (portable version) - argblat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is there a way to install this seperate from whatever stable version you run normally, or does it replace that? (Windows Environment)
- Mandeep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1does the program start any faster than 1.5.0.7?
- gts1983, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i like it
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Which begs the question how does Opera (and other browsers!) manage to not have these problems, and still yeild better back/forward page rendering speed (among many other benchmarks)? I'm not going to sit here and go on about how the Mozilla dev team needs to be held accountable... I'm simply not going to use Firefox anymore.
Easy. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3AdBlock Plus is working fine with it. Not sure why you'd still want to use AdBlock though :)
- dbug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I also find it very irresponsible to release a release candidate of a release candidate without releasing a release candidate for it first.
- Jammerdelray, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Firefox Extension developers please update your Extensions
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Bloody edit button.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Free Software,
Mozilla made millions of dollars by putting that little Google search box out there.
If Firefox has to survive it should stop competing with semantic. For now opera seams to be viable alternative for me. - clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1RC of an RC1 of FF2 is confusing. I agree.
- PsychTouch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1main extensions have been ported?
- laserdisc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I second that motion, it is truly a well put together browser. I prefer it over other browsers for obvious reasons but also it's on all the platforms I use on a daily basis (Mac, Linux & Windows). Which is great for me so I don't have to hunt for options or features I need to access, I know where everything is.
Simply brilliant. - Youssif, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm using it , and it's cool
Thanks a lot Mozilla, Mozilla Devz and around the Firfox world fans !
Keep the good work up ! - theflavor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1In Beta 2 CTRL + TAB goes to the previously 'selected' tab
- schapel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There was supposed to be a link there:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=468525
I've also found that the problem with "browsing graphics-intensive sites" was fixed months ago in Firefox 2 in Bugzilla bug 326611 - ethicalbypass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just check your Bookmarks Toolbar folder. If thats empty, it is known for the web pages to jump a bit.
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