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- Ignignokt01, on 10/12/2007, -22/+221I heard a lot of BS like you couldn't play torrented music files or some ***** like that, total *****! Who the hell is spreading this crap? If microsoft did that NOBODY would buy their ***** except for businesses.
- gronne, on 10/12/2007, -38/+182The Steve Jobs cabal?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -19/+128Embrace,
"Fact 3 where are these statistics from?"
He took it from his ass. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -56/+135"Fact #1: The only reason people still use Windows is that it has the majority of the highest quality applications.
Fact #2: Windows puts out new versions of its operating system so it can discontinue support on older versions requiring companies to pay billions to upgrade.
Fact #3: Most companies can't wait to leave Windows if given the opportunity (i.e. Linux produces higher quality software)."
Hm...
Fact 1 is correct keyword there is "highest quality"
Fact 2 is false, if that was the case they would have ended XP's support
Fact 3 where are these statistics from? If this was true than people would not take the MSC couses so they could get well paying jobs at these companies. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+65have you even tried it? I'm an OS X user, but I'm not anti-Windows by any means. "Don't knock it until you try it"--the same saying applies in this situation.
- doubleblack, on 10/12/2007, -7/+64I'm glad someone finally wrote something like this, Vista is perfectly stable and fine - and is a significant improvement over XP!
- fuzzmeister, on 10/12/2007, -3/+53NVidia has released very subpar Vista drivers. That is their fault, not Microsoft's. Hopefully, they will get out quality drivers soon.
- Stevethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+48Maybe he was talking for something like this ?
http://shopping.redorbit.com/product.php?productid=8130064&MMCF_froogle_feed&utm_id=1&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Froogle+Feed - MrSarcasm, on 10/12/2007, -8/+54A story about Windows, and not written by a FOSS zealot and doesn't have much fud?
+digg! - Bartboy919, on 10/12/2007, -6/+47@flag
If you have listened to any RECENT podasts from leo, you would know he loves vista and has installed them on all his machines and recommends it over XP, He says he has one XP machine because Audition is dog slow in Vista, but he believes that is an Adobe problem. If you listened to any recent twit episodes, all the mac people seem to like Vista. - geoken, on 10/12/2007, -8/+46Myth #12: A human can't survive with out a brain (as disproven by you)
- Crass22, on 10/12/2007, -5/+43My brother runs the PCI 5200.
***** and Uninformed diggers like you really need to quit writing comments for technical-anything articles. - KingAdrock, on 10/12/2007, -4/+39Myth #7: Most old applications and peripherals won't work with Vista
lol, i was playing Fallout 2 on my 800mhz tabletPC /w Vista ultimate 30 minutes ago. - orangenormal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31As a programmer, I think the most important feature in Vista is the deprecation of the Win32 API. Vista is the first OS to include .NET and an all-new OO API. While the back of the Vista box probably touts things like Aero Glass and the great new search features, that is by no means the only changes in Vista. The bottom line, I think, is that higher quality applications will be emerging from developers thanks to a sorely needed API update.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31@joe90210: Way to show a complete ignorance of economics.
- mobilehavoc, on 10/12/2007, -8/+37Wow, what a week - first the "I Hate Macs" article showed up on Digg and now this one....how many NON Anti-Microsoft/Vista and FUD articles can Digg support beefore it crumbles under the pressure of the thousands of upset Apple fanboys???
- rlombardo, on 11/05/2008, -11/+38and the iPhone is what $500 - $600? Buy Vista OEM and quit whining! I'm sick of this double standard. Vista is overpriced by Steve Jobs introduces a $600 cell phone and everyone is like hurrah. I'm not saying the iPhone isn't really cool but can we please stop the fanboy Microsoft bashing and instead have an honest discussion about Vista?
- shosterman, on 10/12/2007, -10/+34To the OP, it's called FUD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear%2C_uncertainty_and_doubt - MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26You've found no way to make it get your entire drive? Then you must not have a clue what you're doing.
If you even make an attempt to search any non-indexed location, Windows gives you a nice IE-style top of the window yellow bar popup thing:
"Searches might be slow in non-indexed locations: C:. Click to add to index..."
Or, you could just type 'index' into the control panel's search, you get a nice list of indexing options, performance stuff that deals with indexing, folder options that deal with searching/indexing, etc.
Vista makes all of this rather obvious. - TheCount, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24"OK, I was mistaken. My quick search didn't turn that one up. Digg that first comment on down.
I do stand by my last inflammatory statement though :-)"
It's okay, as soon as I read "To the author, no you are not. The 5200, unless I am greatly mistaken, was sold only as AGP and PCIe.", I quit reading. You insult the credibility of an article because you thought he got his own video card wrong, then expect your own argument to have any validity. - joe90210, on 10/12/2007, -9/+32uhh vista is built on top of windows server 2003, a system that's had less vulnerabilities discovered than the equivalent red hat system..
- tont0r, on 10/12/2007, -13/+35@taylorhayward
Fact #4: You pulled all those statistics out of your ass. - obeseotron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20The video driver structure for Vista is totally different than XP, so the drivers are not quite up to XP quality. This also happened when Win2k came out, and I'm sure it will be addressed. I don't think they'll ever hit 100% of XP performance on older games, but may actually exceed XP in games designed with Vista in mind. XP was pretty smooth for drivers because they reused the 2K drive model.
- w00ters, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23Are you kidding? Vista adds security with User Accounts Control (UAC) along with security improvements across the board, added functionality in virtually every aspect (search, explorer interface, etc) ... Aero is merely one small drop in the bucket compared to the vast improvements Vista offers over XP. Did you even read the article?
This article reminds me of the exact same FUD that had to be dispelled around the same time Windows XP launched and users were unwilling to upgrade from 9x/2k to XP for the exact same reasons. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18I, as an average American, am insulted that you would even begin to suggest that the average American would fall victim to such an infantile form of adverti... ooooooooooooohhh, shiiiiiny!
- omatsei, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23Fact 4: The previous 3 facts were false.
- PaperMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17That is the worst false logic I have seen on Digg all day! A pound works out to roughly $2.... they are paying TWICE as much for the same product. The fact that a pound is their equivalent unit to a dollar doesn't mean it is spent that way.... If it was then there is no way in hell I would live in Italy... I mean who the hell would want to pay $300 for a cup of coffee!?!? 300 Lire, sure but $300 (US) every morning for a coffee is a bit excessive no?
- ubuwalker31, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Myth #5: You can't dual boot Vista with another operating system
Thankfully, this is a myth, sort-of. Apparently Vista doesn't play well with grub and lilo, and will overwrite the linux bootloaders in the MBR. So, you have to do some command line work to get dual boot up and running. - goat2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17***** you ***** idiot, xp IS a secure OS, the only thing that makes it insecure is people's *****
- tfinniga, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17You might have meant the deprecation of MFC.. Win32 is still there, but MFC is being phased out in favor of a much better UI library. For example, the free version of Visual Studio comes with Win32 and .Net libraries, but no way to develop MFC apps.
Good riddance, too. - fuzzmeister, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Windows (or even OSX) on voting machines? God that is scary.
- benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18fratm, vista doesnt cause ANY problems with lower framerates in games, its ATI and NVIDIAS half assed drivers that cause the problems of lower framerates. once those beta drivers have been ironed out into decent quality drivers THEN you can start throwing blame at vista for any loss of performance.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17New networking/audio stacks? Plethora of security enhancements? Vastly superior shell (explorer, start menu, searching features, etc.)?
There's a whole lot more to Vista than just the shiny new interface. - TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Her statement, "Some programs made for XP, especially those that hook into the kernel, like antivirus programs and some system utilities, won't work with Vista", is innacurate. Kernel Patch Protection is only enabled on 64-bit Vista
- dvdcpu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13What? A gfx card as old as that sold only as agp and pci-e? How could you even make that presumption?
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Well mcfriendly, can you tell us what exactly is in Leopard that is such a great improvement over what is in OSX now? Since you guys have set the standard of what constitutes a worth upgrade with all the bashing of Vista, what is so special about Leopard?
- Bartboy919, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14@choopie
Maybe you should "think different" for a change and stop shooting down things you have never used, just because they were made by a company that you dislike. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+23Hate Vista all you want, you'll be buying it within the next 5 years anyway..
- EntropyFan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15@leereeves
You do realize, of course, that your Mac, your set-top box, and anything that can legally play hi-def content can also
" at least degrade the quality" or prevent you from playing it if the content producers request it?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=232
MS doesn't decide, the movie makers do - Anpheus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Oh, and to get it to scan other folders, change your Indexing options.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Yes!
.NET 3.0 FTW!
Hopefully we'll soon see a lot of visually stunning WPF applications (Fortunately, they run on XP, though I doubt they'll look as good) - MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I'm calling BS on that. You don't know how to type grub (enter) root hd0 (enter) setup hd0 (enter) ? That would obliterate any trace of Vista's boot manager in seconds, and have grub back up and running.
- PlaidPhantom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10"She tries to debunk this one but at the end proves it to be true."
No...she said that if you install Vista on a *multiprocessor* machine, it will only use one physical processor. It will still use however many *cores* that processor has. - jfowler27, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14I agree. I have a P4 3.2GHz HT with 2GB of RAM and a Radeon x850 XT PE and most of the games that I could get to work ran quite slower with Vista. I tweaked Vista around a bunch and could not get the same level of performance as with XP. I like a lot of the new features that Vista has to offer, but I like my OS to be as barebones as possible when I'm gaming to get the best performance out of it, and right now I can do that easily with XP.
- sk83k, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Actually the price in the UK is still an issue. The rule seems to be whatever the price in dollars is, is the price in pounds. A home premium upgrade is £140, and ultimate is £320!
- goat2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10and you're dugg down for obvious dumbassedness
- nights0223, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9spidoman - you can install Vista on bootcamp with no problem right now.
- TravisG5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8You are correct... but as a Mac user I do have to add that Vista is a great improvement over XP. If I have to use a Windows machine in the future, it would be okay now that Vista is out.
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"@joe90210: Way to show a complete ignorance of economics."
Actually companies in America just stick a pound sign in front and sell it anyway, welcome to rip-off Britain. - Altotus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9The old chestnut that hackers don't hack a system because it's not dominant on the network is a bit of a red herring. Hackers with malicious intent would break into systems that contain valuable information, or whose disruption has the highest impact. Those are invariably corporate servers and the fact of the matter is that's a much more heterogeneous pool and one where Microsoft is far from the dominant player.
Desktop systems are targeted because the hacker wanting bots wants quantity. With Windows, not only are there many Windows systems, but there's a pretty consistent pattern to flaws that make finding exploits pretty simple and easily scripted. The vectors for transmission are in place, so no heavy-handed dictionary attacks, no IDS to contend with, and very little chance that the user is an expert user in any sense of the word (from a security standpoint, one of Windows' biggest weaknesses isn't the OS so much as that it's prevalence means that a disproportionate number of Windows systems are operated by novices). -
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