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- inactive, on 01/18/2009, -9/+212My boss at a software company always said "the most pirated software is always the one that is sold the most".
- andarnold, on 01/18/2009, -22/+118No.
- aufte, on 01/18/2009, -12/+105$15 (Canadian) to see a movie at the cinema? Then another $15 for the smallest morsel of food? If that's legal, piracy should be legal under 'leveling the playing field' laws.
- Rikkochet, on 01/18/2009, -0/+82Mine always said "I'd rather someone be pirating our software than buying the competition's"
- superterrorizer, on 01/18/2009, -2/+56agreed, the last date I went on to the movies cost like 44$, 24 for the tickets, another 20 for the food. I could have rented a DVD for 3 and cooked for 5. There's something wrong with that picture.
- savagemutt, on 01/18/2009, -2/+45Mine always said, "Arrr, Jim me lad!".
I don't think I ever truly understood what he meant...until now. - mstachiw, on 01/18/2009, -2/+41Piracy only matters to the Piratee and the Pirater... and THIS family
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBaGI9vJ6d0
(see 10 sec in) - inactive, on 01/18/2009, -7/+40No not really, People pirate in other countries because they can't get content or shows that the US get and vice versa, it's actually just making the industry's content more popular. The more it spreads over the piratebay the more popularity it receives.
- cubicledrone, on 01/18/2009, -11/+43"Piracy" is proportional to price. When games are overpriced, piracy goes up. When games are more reasonably priced, piracy goes down. People will pay for digital content, and they do in amounts measured in the billions. They buy electronic books from Amazon. They buy electronic music from Apple. They buy movies from Netflix.
Price games reasonably, provide a good demo and people will buy them. It's that simple. - nbluth, on 01/18/2009, -1/+31Amen to that, the theater near my house in Hamilton charges $10 at ticket for a ***** screen, no slope to the seats so you can only see people's heads and $8 popcorn ftl.
- grantmoore3d, on 01/18/2009, -2/+32I miss the good old days when it took skill to find pirated copies of things. Now every idiot can P2P or auto-torrent download whatever they want. I want my mIRC queue's back!!
- Slacker1031, on 01/18/2009, -23/+53This article is extremely bogus. The argument of physical media being a hassle is ridiculous, pretty much everything has a digital version up for sale as well. Pirates don't have to enter endless serial numbers and activation codes? what? really? Cause i think it takes just as long to Crack software, or generate the serial numbers and activation codes with a keygen. Games? also digital copies that don't require a physical CD, Steam is really on the front for that.
There is no argument FOR piracy other than "I feel like i should have everything for nothing". If you're going to try and make excuses, at least make excuses about problems that don't have blindingly obvious solutions. - dofe, on 01/18/2009, -6/+34It's about self determination. If someone puts work into a product and wants to give it away, then that's his/her right to do so. Conversely, if that person wants to profit from it, it is their right as well.
Piracy, however its proponents defend it, basically takes away the author's right to do what he wants with it. Whatever shortfalls the gaming industry happens to have (and there are many), the authors put a lot of work and effort into producing software, and pirates are essentially using the product of someone's hard work without fairly compensating them for it. - sloonark, on 01/18/2009, -2/+30Mine always said "I'd rather someone buy our software instead of pirate it so we don't go broke."
- inactive, on 01/18/2009, -3/+29http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xfqkdh5Js4
Don't copy that floppy. - Smeed, on 01/18/2009, -3/+28Except for photoshop. One person buys it to reverse engineer the activation and the rest download the trial and crack.
- Dohko_Xar, on 01/18/2009, -3/+26Who the hell watches CAM releases?! DVDSCR FTW
- gm33, on 01/18/2009, -4/+26"There's something wrong with that picture."
I see what you did there! - Beardcore, on 01/19/2009, -2/+22Mine always said "I'd rather buy a pirate, then he can just kill the competition"
- twiztidsinz, on 01/18/2009, -3/+23No see...
Companies offering their products with stupid security stuff like on Spore is what leads to FURTHER piracy.
Why should I, as a customer, be forced to jump through hoops and be limited to a certain number of installs after I've given my hard earned money.... especially when I can just go out and download a patch/crack?
People, Industries too, always look for someone else to blame for their problems. - N256, on 01/18/2009, -9/+29Gadzooks! What a terribly uninteresting correlation.
- adrenalmedulla9, on 01/18/2009, -4/+22hello, digg.
Digging another piracy article, I see. - Dinsdale77, on 01/18/2009, -2/+19It matters to me!
- IamDexx, on 01/18/2009, -1/+17Living on the other side of the world - New Zealand, Without Piracy I can't watch alot of my favourite shows. So Piracy Does Matter - it helps those without traditional forms of access to at least be able to watch what we want.
- ZubZerp, on 01/18/2009, -11/+26Honestly though, DRM is not going away if people keep pirating. The real reason most people pirate isn't because they hate DRM or they want to "protest", but instead that it's a game for free. It's really as simple as that. Stop making up all of these excuses. Honestly though, why would a company want to spend lots of money and time making a great game if it's going to be pirated anyway?
- jammyfred, on 01/18/2009, -3/+17I only ever pirate stuff that if it was impossible to pirate I wouldn't have bought anyway. Noone ever loses a penny off my pirating apart from the bandwidth of people I download it from, but I always have their permission. If I download some music that I end up liking or a game that I play a lot I will then buy the CD or gamedisc. So while technically, I am breaking the law, I would find it hard to say that I am acting morally wrong.
- LonelyTylenoL, on 01/18/2009, -3/+15About 99.9% of all open source I've ever seen is free...
It's a sad day in the world of computers when you seen open source that isn't freeware... - nbluth, on 01/18/2009, -4/+16You're missing the point of the article - first off he does say that steam has it right and that more companies should follow. What he's saying is this: When I bought generals and I wanted to play with my brother over LAN I had to buy another full copy of the game just to install it on another one of MY computers, whereas when I pirate I can get it on all MY computers for free.
When I went back to generals a few weeks ago I went home to get the disks but found the my brother had lost the cd key, so even though I bought the software and had rights to use it EA would have made me buy another full game just to play it again.
When I pirate my software I can do more with it and I get it for free, if there was a way to do everything that I stated above and pay for it, I would pay for it, and I back that up with the fact that I have bought all my steam games, and none of my other games. - fracai, on 01/18/2009, -9/+21Mine always said "I'd rather someone pirate our software and give the money they save to our competitor". We went bankrupt and shut down 5 years ago.
- gm33, on 01/18/2009, -1/+13Maybe because of inflation and that prices are higher each year?
- Khast, on 01/18/2009, -0/+11What game/music/movie companies should do regarding sales. Rather than copy protection and other things which don't seem to work anyways. Put something in the retail box that means something to the person who purchases the media. Make it something which can't be copied easily, and can be part of the game. (I don't mean like the old manual copy protection.) I mean stuff like the old Ultima cloth maps, coins, ect. Stuff that goes with the game, and actually adds worth to the game.
Oh, it wouldn't hurt to actually make the game good either....I've seen a lot of crap on the shelves lately. - dofe, on 01/18/2009, -1/+11There's a difference between people not buying your work product and people using it without paying for it. The first example is called the free market; the second one is called piracy and it's unfair.
Of course you have no right to expect to make money out of your work and efforts, but you have a right to expect people to compensate you when they make use of your work. - addiktion, on 01/19/2009, -0/+10In the end it doesn't really matter. Because a pirate has multiple reasons why he won't buy the software and it most likely won't change unless drastic action is taken to help sway the pirate over.
Here's a few reasons why people pirate:
1. DRM up the wang. Spore for example. Just ridiculous and treats the customer like a criminal.
2. The pricing is to high for the software/music/etc. I'll leave that to what Hoobastank said at a concert, "Dudes go pirate our music if you have too! We don't care because we don't make ***** on our cds anyways!"
3. Revenge against RIAA and all the other organizations that stiff the average customer. Again overpriced for the content.
4. Availability. Australia and other countries often get screwed with long wait lists or don't get the opportunity to even play the game at all so they end up pirating the game so they can play it.
5. Trials. Some games and other things don't have trials. This one is slowly fading as tracks or previews become more available but no one wants to drop $50 on a video game/$20 cd/$60 console game that sucks ass. It's a waste of money and the good developers like Valve, Blizzard, etc. do get supported for their hard effort and awesome game play.
6. Money. This plays a key role in it somewhat too. I highly doubt most people making over 6 figures really need to pirate as much as those who are on the other end of the scale. I mean if you can afford to pay $2,000+ dollars for the Adobe Suite it's not that big of a deal. But as the bell curve puts it most American's probably make around $46,000 or less on average. Which doesn't amount to much when you have kids, family, or if you don't have that kind of salary and have house debt, car payment, food, and a student loan, etc. Hence the reason most college kids I've met pirate, and yes they don't feel bad about it.
7. Culture/Area. I'm sure there aren't to many pirates in undeveloped countries that don't even have an internet line. However the undeveloped areas that do have internet tend to be the most successful at distributing pirated copies because of the relaxed laws.
8. Content sucks these days... 10 song's to a cd, 2/3 minute tracks? Come on now. I'm guessing many of you can maybe find one or two good songs on a lot of cd's these days.
These are just a few of the reasons of the secret but obvious ways of a pirate and well I don't think they all can be solved today or tomorrow. Generally if you treat a pirate badly he will harbor your ships and steal your women and goods. If you treat a pirate as a trustworthy individual, give him a good price with great games/cds/movies, he'll be your customer for life with fun tales to tell. - FreddieD, on 01/18/2009, -2/+12It's not a real wife swap show until the husbands are allowed to ***** their new wives.
- dofe, on 01/18/2009, -2/+12Have you heard of intangible property? I'm not sure where you get the idea that we haven't figured out what it means. We place lots of importance to intangible property because it has value. A person who invents a new invention is granted a patent by the government exactly because it took work on his part to invent it and because it has value, even though you can't hold it in your hands (the patent protects the idea).
The same applies with software, the contents of a book, music, etc (these are all copyrightable under the Copyright Act). Just because you can't physically hold it doesn't mean you don't own it. If you write a book, the contents are copyrightable because it has value to you and you own it -- meaning you have the right to do whatever you want with it, including charging people money to use it. - MtheoryX, on 01/18/2009, -0/+10So? I don't have the money for a lambo...does that mean I should have one?
- AzureRise, on 01/18/2009, -2/+12I actually do hate DRM and so do a bunch of other people I know. There have actually been many games that I would have bought if it weren't for the DRM. If people get a better product without the hassles by pirating than if they actually legally bought it, I don't blame them. If a game has DRM, I simply won't buy it.
EA is the biggest offender when it comes to this, especially with their new limited installs. Only being able to install a game 5 times is ridiculous. You're paying full price for a rental. There should be absolutely no limits on how many times you can install something you paid for. That's why I boycott their games. If a game has DRM or the EA logo, I simply won't buy it. - inactive, on 01/18/2009, -5/+14Arrrrrrr!
- ModeSeven, on 01/18/2009, -0/+9I remember those days, it was almost less hassle to earn the money to buy the game than it was to pirate it. I remember sitting up all night this one time waiting for some guy's FTP server to come online so I could get me some Carmageddon. ***** thing never did come online.
- meruru, on 01/18/2009, -1/+10That's sort of what steam does but even that poses a problem. I shouldn't need to always have an internet connection to play a game that I own.
- piratearggghhh, on 01/18/2009, -3/+11Here's the dilemma: people like getting stuff for free (pirates) but don't like to work for free (game developers). For big budget games with fancy graphics, no one is going to spend the time and money to give it away especially since their motivation for making the game in the first place is for money. What's the solution? *shrug*
- Super6, on 01/18/2009, -1/+9I buy products worth buying because I want to see more. I'm alright with letting Rockstar have my $50 because I want tot see GTA continue to be ported to PC. I give Valve my money because I've never felt like I wasted my money after buying their games.
- inactive, on 01/19/2009, -0/+8You're ***** retarded.
***** I HATE MAKING THINGS EASY ON MYSELF.
I miss the good old days when hot water wasn't around, now any idiot can go turn a knob and have a hot shower. - MtheoryX, on 01/18/2009, -0/+8If it can take place in my living room, IRL, I'd pay a bit.
- Kytro, on 01/18/2009, -1/+9DRM offers no benefits to the consumer, and still does nothing to prevent pirates, it is basically useless.
- inactive, on 01/18/2009, -4/+12In my eyes, the problem with piracy is that it gives industries an excuse to shovel out garbage. The music industry and the movie industry put out utter crap, and when it fails to make any money, they turn around and blame pirates, rather than taking responsibility for putting out garbage. Then I get treated like a criminal simply because I have no interest in watching/listening to the garbage they put out.
- Matri, on 01/19/2009, -0/+7*sigh* Back when buying a boxed game meant you got a lot of cool stuff: posters, mini-figures, lots of other cool stuff.
These days, those are called "Collector's Editions", which are nearly double the price. - Gizza, on 01/19/2009, -0/+7And the lead actor gets paid $20million for doing the movie. I can't help but think that if he got paid $2million he could still live pretty damn comfortably and we could see a movie for $2.
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