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- MikeonTV, on 10/11/2007, -4/+42I prefer the Socialist Player. Prettier colours
- AlanCayce, on 10/11/2007, -0/+28I was under the impression that democracy player used VLC as its backbone...
- geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+25VLC's playback engine + Gecko (and Firefox's XPCOM) + BitTorrent (python) = Democracy Player.
It's no wonder the thing is a ***** speed-wise, so many different codebases, none of which really mesh together. - nestafett, on 10/11/2007, -5/+28isnt vlc and democracy player kind of like apples and oranges? seems to me they have differant goals
- ravrore, on 10/11/2007, -3/+24This version includes support for Ubuntu feisty.
- eatasandwich, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17Doesn't Democracy integrate VLC anyway? I hope so, because then I have finally been smarter than someone else today.
- hode, on 10/11/2007, -5/+21They received a $100,000 grant from the Mozilla foundation. They're showing support, you should too.
- masial, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18It actually IS vlc... FYI
- velvethead, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15VLC is built into Democracy player, along with BitTorrent functionality, cataloging, and a RSS reader. You don't understand what the project is trying to be.
- rstarr, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18...it's not that funny...
- wwwdot1jesdotus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14I love how they call it the "collectors edition". lol
"You gonna upgrade to Democracy Player 1.0?"
"No way man. I already have the collectors edition." - xspinkickx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14why are people digging down masial he is right democracy player uses vlc to play back video. Democracy player and vlc have two different goals, democracy for internet tv, vlc to play back every format under the sun.
I guess when it comes to technical information people on digg would rather not read actual information as opposed to digging irrelevant statements such as vlc > democracy player, without even realizing that democracy player uses vlc. - Mejogid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Does this mean they've finally updated all the python-dbus stuff? Been out of operation on my Gentoo box for months because of that...
- dubiousmike, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7hows the memory footprint on mac and pc? The program used to become unusable, using up most or all of my ram after a short period of time and I had stopped using it.
- joeroot1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9yes it uses the libvlc library, so it is fundamentally vlc but slower, because of the poor programming behind it.
- raynar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7The last version fixed it.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Have Tried to install video card drivers....you know, that helps with the whole video playback thing
- podgey22, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7*Miro
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I installed it via the Ubuntu repository listed on the site, and for some reason it did not create a menu shortcut.
The interface is somewhat unresponsive. It's using around 100 MB of memory.
More importantly, though, it doesn't seem to be able to play my videos (AVIs that work very well in Totem).
On the positive side, I do like the YouTube and Google Video search and download feature, and it looks like a good program for video podcasts. - yournightmare, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"It's using around 100 MB of memory."
--It's using about the same on WinXP as well. So much for fixing the bloat. - geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"does that mean Democracy player can use just as many formats? "
Yes.
"Or does it just use certain aspects of VLC?"
Yes.
The playback engine was chosen because its portable and very fast. VLC acts much more like a media player, specifically a high-end media player with all kinds of tuning functionalities. Democracy uses some generic default settings and wraps it around a pretty UI (at least if you're on Windows or a Mac, it looks hideous on Linux). - Jonny0stars, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I downloaded Democracy a few weeks ago and to be honest its just been an annoyance, it seems to set its self default for playing 3gp videos which it does splendidly for the first few seconds before it starts "getting feeds", at which point stops playing the video i wanted to watch and starts downloading crap.
Not to mention it looks like some on from apple vomited all over my screen, VLC is still my choice and i doubt this new version of Democracy will change it. - melllvar37, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6mirrors:
MAC: http://rapidshare.com/files/35628373/Democracy.dmg
WIN: http://rapidshare.com/files/35628544/Democracy_Installer.exe - tempestviii, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I installed it, it's really clunky. They need to make it run much MUCH faster
- Phocion55, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I have the same problem.
Here's the Trac entry for it: https://develop.participatoryculture.org/trac/democracy/ticket/7270
I don't see a fix anywhere mentioned. - TheRealTopherG, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3masial is right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player#Applications_which_use_the_VLC_plugin - noseeme, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Now all we need is interesting video feeds. :|
Unfortunately, that is not something the developers of Democracy Player can control. - scottjl, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2well i looked to install the feisty version but it wanted to rip out java and a few other things. i think i'll pass for now.
- doogly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2So if Democracy player uses VLC, does that mean Democracy player can use just as many formats? Or does it just use certain aspects of VLC?
- multitude, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Looks like they provided RPM archives for Fedora 5 and 6. Now that 7 is out that would be nice, too! :)
Cool program, though, I have been enjoying it. However I might wait until this hits the Fedora yum repositories before I upgrade. - stalefries, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Check your repos yet?
- manitoba98xp, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4They're calling it the "Collector's Edition" because the next version—1.0—will be under a different name: Mira.
- dgh1973, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3"""
It actually IS vlc... FYI
"""
Not on a mac it isn't... not yet at least.
But that does bring up a good point. Democracy isn't really a media player like VLC/WMP/QT as much as it is a media organizer. It uses standard media playing engines on the back end to play content.
I think it needs a fair amount of work personally. It's pretty slow on start up and probably gets worse with a whole bunch of subscriptions I imagine. However I'll probably try out this upgrade and see if it's much better. Monitoring local folders for updates is an overdue improvement. - andreo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I installed this on Sunday. I broke my TVersity install. Not sure how but no more sound on Divx files with AAC sound. I spent an hour or so getting everything working again.
I really like the idea behind Democracy player. But TVersity does more work for me at the moment. I'll just use Juice to grab the feeds I need and share them out through TVersity to my other devices for now. - alanic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Could be both, using something doesn't always mean using everything it has to offer.
- markdr123, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I always had that problem with older versions too.
Can anyone give us an insight? - dcmjzero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1anyone have any good rss channels to watch on democracy player?
- boredaghast, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1STILL no OPML support. it's so unreliable and often crashes beyond repair- on reinstall I can't get my channels back no matter what I do - and this is on a Mac. I keep coming back to it because there is nothing that does exactly what Democracy does. The new name sounds dumb too.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The current version of Democracy Player in Fedora 7 won't work with the latest Firefox package (DP uses parts of Fx), so don't hold your breath for the latest version. Whoever is maintaining DP in Fedora is either having a lot of trouble with DP (I know I've had trouble with it before) or is just not bothering with it.
- kenbo11, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Wow! The server must be really busy with the new release. I can't connect to the website right now.
- hiPpymIck, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1..do we comment on stuff we see in Digg podcast section ??
- Comanche, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I hope they fixed the volume control. I hate moving the slider and it jumps to 100% volume.
- markdr123, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Joke has already been made, move along.
- unusualbob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I thought it was a computer savy presidential ad at first
- doogly, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Awwwwww man, no version for openSUSE. I am really disappointed, i was gonna download it :(
- freekycanuck, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Okay. I just installed the DP 0.9.6 with Ubuntu - Can someone please tell me why the hell I needed to install firefox with that? Was that part of the deal with the Mozilla people, that they would bundle Firefox in with Democracy Player, or is it needed somehow? I really don't have anything personal against firefox, an awesome browser, but I recently switched to a KDE desktop and I have been using Konqueror, which runs more quickly than firefox on my machine - so I uninstalled the Fox. And now.... its back! Maybe someone can explain this to me?
- dinki, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I get my ***** tv via vlc from http://www.worldwidemediaproject.com
- freekycanuck, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Well, I'll give it another go - had it installed about a year ago under XP - and it worked well: fast downloads, good playback. I recently switched my OS (that's Kubuntu, with a 'k') - and thought I would give it another try. Well, I can't remember what version, but it was crapping out on me. s-l-o-w dl's, playback variable (it just wasn't playing some formats, wtf?)- and start-up was also really slow. So, deleted that. Hope I get better results this time....
"Now all we need is interesting video feeds. :|"
- "Democracy Now" was my favorite daily news source for a while there. Check it out. - Ming0, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0There are shared pieces of code. Democracy relies on some of the Firefox libraries, so Firefox *must* be installed for Democracy to work.
- twigboy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2@geminitojanus
agreed completely.
and to top that
it looks like a cheap remake of the windows media player 11 -
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