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- banmaster, on 02/20/2008, -3/+72"The software automatically plays the song files in the background (sans volume) and re-records them as MP3 files so they can be transferred to any device."
So basically it uses the analogue hole to make inferior quality replications of content. Sorry, but thats just a ***** way to get around the DMCA and NO DIFFERENT tyo similar things already available now! - bryano, on 02/20/2008, -10/+67erm, ***** the RIAA ?
- Focher, on 02/20/2008, -6/+40Already checked it out. Pretty much worthless.
- synagence, on 02/20/2008, -0/+28Can't believe DVDJon would put his name to something like this .... its complete and utter fail
- stephenhacking, on 02/20/2008, -6/+32My eyes are open for what doubletwist is offering..
- kleverness, on 02/20/2008, -5/+28I thought DVD Jon was a respectable guru/hacker... No *nix version, closed source and using MS .NET :(
- roomforpanic, on 02/20/2008, -4/+23Wow. Epic Fail.
- CarzorStelatis, on 02/20/2008, -1/+20'Slight loss of sound quality' - the BBC quoting Jon
From that statement (and the time conversion takes) this seems to be just exploiting the analog hole. Sorry Jon but if I want quality-reducing analog conversion I've got Audacity already. - epyon8282, on 02/20/2008, -3/+22***** the RIAA indeed my friend....
- Kelmon, on 02/20/2008, -1/+19I'm digging you down because I don't think the comment is relevant. DoubleTwist only allows you to remove the DRM from tracks that you already own so it does not aid you in illegally obtaining music. However, if you subsequently take the MP3 files generated and upload them then that's your choice, albeit a bad one.
It should also be noted that DoubleTwist doesn't really do anything more than what iTunes allows you to do already since it is effectively "burning" a virtual CD and re-importing it. In this respect the application isn't exactly a Holy Grail since you still lose quality in the music due to compressed music being re-compressed, although it does make the process easier. - SecretAvenue, on 02/20/2008, -6/+241) Hire somebody notorious for his work
2) Have him make something mundane
3) ?????
4) Profit! - dpratt, on 02/20/2008, -3/+19It gets around DRM by transcoding? Downloaded songs are already of almost abysmal quality - re-encoding them will only make it worse. No thanks, I'll pass until they figure out a solution that will do something besides make my media sound like it's playing back in a tin can at the bottom of the ocean.
- LoganT, on 02/20/2008, -2/+14"And no major label ***** on there either."
Most people don't consider that a good thing. - m00nmaster, on 02/20/2008, -1/+12Always in good taste.
- CiXeL, on 02/20/2008, -2/+13i already paid for a bunch of itunes songs. i just wanted to be able to put them on another mp3 player i have or burn them to cds because my builtin car mp3 stereo doesnt support AAC. this extends my ability to use my music.
i buy songs on itunes because its convenient and i dont have to deal with spyware riddled limewire and the quality is always good. itunes is like the 99 cent store of music. - Cerialthriller, on 02/20/2008, -0/+10yeah but DRM doesnt hurt the pirates, it hurts us people who BUY music. If DRM worked piracy wouldnt be possible anymore
- drouk1556, on 02/20/2008, -0/+9I agree it's not the greatest encoding format, but aren't portable music players (for the most part) universally mp3-compliant?
- Canute, on 02/20/2008, -0/+9Nah, if you read into what he actually did. GUI Jon would have been more appropriate.
- johngarcia, on 02/20/2008, -0/+8How does this make him any less respectable? It's not like he closed everything he's ever done and decided *nix sucks. He simply wrote a Windows app. Wow! He must be a real douchebag now! *sarcasm* Now if you said this application is pointless and you are shocked that this work came from him, I might agree with you.
- Audacitor, on 02/20/2008, -9/+17Your first problem is Vista. Upgrade to XP.
- beerhuffer, on 02/20/2008, -1/+7sucks.
- weeFred, on 02/20/2008, -0/+6Thats fine if you want to go through all that hassle and aren't bothered about the reduction of quality. It would be far easier if apple just dropped the DRM, if play and amazon can do it then they should be able to aswell.
- Kelmon, on 02/20/2008, -0/+4Well, you could try to pass it off as your own work...
- dojonz, on 02/20/2008, -2/+6And thus, I am not interested.
- 3vno, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3You guys are against DRM? Stop buying stuff off of itunes!!! Force apple to add more DRM-free songs, or quit DRM all together. Consumers hold all the power. You can effect a companies bottom line, and force them to change or die.
- javaroast, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3MacParrot, I can't go along with you on this one. Apple, Amazon and everyone else has chosen to sell with DRM. They wanted to get into the market with the biggest possible variety of offerings and accepted the terms of the music industry on top of it FairPlay is Apple's baby and they've chosen to keep it all to themselves making a bad situation worse. The music sellers such as the ones you mentioned get no get out of jail free card from me. They've chosen to cooperate with the copyright holders instead of the consumer.
- MisterNetHead, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3Put in a Co$ phone number.
- kurttrail, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3MS & Apple developed their own DRM They can share in the blame.
- oldhick, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3I can verify that its a noticeable sound quality difference. Stay away.
- inactive, on 02/20/2008, -1/+4Dear DVDJon how about break the time limit drm on apple itunes movie rentals so we can keep them forever. thanks...
- Kelmon, on 02/20/2008, -1/+4Correct - you can achieve the same result in iTunes using a blank CD. There's nothing illegal here but it's annoying that the MP3 file's audio quality will be worse than the original protected AAC file. Given that some people already complain that the audio quality of protected AAC files from the iTunes Store isn't good enough, I can't see this impressing them (I'm not one of them since I know I'm tone deaf).
- Linkin4, on 02/20/2008, -2/+5Sometimes I put on an eye patch and talk to a parrot when I steal music, ***** awesome *****.
- deepmenace, on 02/20/2008, -1/+3seems a shame that a such a user friendly looking idea will be saddled with the fact that big video conversion will still take tens of minutes rather than seconds.
who said computers were fast enough now? - wowrob, on 02/20/2008, -1/+3Ok /b/!
- DetpackJump, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2Tried it on 64bit XP. The itunes song conversion crashes, luckily I've been buying from Amazon anyway. I also get errors when clicking other parts of the application, not that there is anything else interesting to use. It also gets a big fail for making me create an online account to run a desktop app.
- coheedcollapse, on 02/20/2008, -3/+5Starting with a clean install, Vista has been my least troublesome OS so far. People blow Vista problems far out of proportion. Also, you guys are so god-damn predictable it hurts. Figures the most commented subject is a guy having problems with a program on Vista.
- sx66gns, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2is this safe? damn thing asks for real name , email AND cell phone number that and being named "double twist" seems kinda shady.
- MrViklund, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2I'm not too excited about this. I don't like DRM at all but it might be against the end user license to do it. I don't know. If you bought a song with DRM you agreed to certain terms. We have to see how this plays out. But, I'm not too excited.
- aceuk, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2Definitely agree it's a bit rubbish. I thought it was going to be like QTFairUse but sadly I was wrong. :(
- forgeflow, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2tried installing it on two different systems. same result both times - install aborted about halfway through.
- MacParrot, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2@javaroast
No, I understand what it is you're saying to some extent I agree with you. Apple and Microsoft each developed DRM to work within their own technologies. Since the iPod/iTunes combination is the number one seller, Apple has decided not to share FairPlay with any other competing players (if the player market wasn't so decisively in Apple's favor, I wonder if they would have considered it). Microsoft in order to compete against Apple and not having a player of their own (at the time) gave Plays4Sure licenses to every download music store out there and it wasn't until they came out with the Zune (with another different Microsoft DRM) that the market as far as DRM goes had any major changes.
Now take your argument that each store wanted to reach the highest number of people to get them to buy their players (where the real money is) and therefore caved to the demands of the content copyright holders. My answer is what choice did they have once the market reached a certain number? With Apple having the biggest share and the perception of having the best user experience, what headway would competitors have with a smaller selection of music? IMO...none.
Apple COULD have demanded that DRM be dropped by the majors and possibly it might eventually have happened but at what cost to Apple's bottom line? Apple is in the business to make money and the perception among most iPod users I've talked to is that DRM doesn't really seem to matter and as long as they keep buying iPods it's irrelevant. It's only when they choose a different model that the question even arises. So again, it was not in Apple's best interests to fight the studios over DRM.
Now we have the major studios fighting Apple's dominance by offering DRM-free songs at a slightly cheaper price through Amazon, but not allowing Apple to sell those same songs DRM-free and if their REALLY trying to hurt Apple, they've made a major mistake. If all the songs were DRM-free from whatever store you purchased them from, then maybe the next time the average person was considering a new player they might choose something other than an iPod as long as their library of content could easily move with it. THAT would hurt Apple more than what they're doing and I'm amazed they haven't figured this out. By forcing Apple to continue to use DRM for their content, they keep locking in iTunes/iPod customers to continue to buy iPods. Apple laughs all the way to the bank. - MSP1, on 02/20/2008, -0/+1If it had useful functionality I could forgive the user interface but you shouldn't get sad arty farties to do screen design. It's just a mess.
- dadofbrook, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1The re-recording method is slower than the Virtual CD burning one which can convert any DRM protected music to plain MP3. NoteBurner from http://www.noteburner.com is an example and its conversion speed is super fast.
- effedup, on 02/20/2008, -0/+1 I missed something obviously.. I thought this product would allow me to drag a song from a CD (i purchased) onto my mobile phone and set it as a ring tone.. or something like drag a video i recorded on my camcorder into my facebook profile. That would be interesting. I don't really do any of that actually, but I'm sure someone would benefit from it.. would make it pretty easy to do..
- dbr_onix, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Yes, you could convert to FLAC or Ogg, but then loads of people wouldn't know how to open them, or their MP3 Player wouldn't play them.
Sometimes the better formats are not used because the others are more widely used, and nothing more.. - SpookyApplePie, on 02/20/2008, -0/+1***** THE RIAA!!!
- 3vno, on 02/20/2008, -0/+1no i think it just rerecords an audio file into a crappy mp3 file and let you stick it on your phone.
- supermario44, on 02/20/2008, -1/+2call me the cheap bastard thank you and god bless
- TheXeno, on 02/20/2008, -0/+1So, uh. would it be possible for say, a Zune Pass subscriber, to transfer DRM protected WMA songs to a iTouch with this?
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