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Copy music from iPod to your computer [freeware]

ouriel.typepad.com — YamiPod will let you finally get rid of iTunes. The KILLER feature. You can copy music from iPod to your computer, bye bye stupid DRM rules that do not let me copy music i bought from my iPod to another computer (at work for example) Works on mac/linux/windows

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  • sdrawkcaB, on 10/12/2007, -4/+106Forget the blog - go straight here:
    http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/home/
  • jgrgg, on 10/12/2007, -20/+0does it convert ur music to play on ipod... thats what pisses me off about itunes i have thousands of songs on my computer that i ripped from cd's using wmp and its taking weeks to convert them to mp3
    • abid786, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15You can rip to mp3 from WMP can't you? (Sorry I haven't used that crappy piece of software in a LONG time)...
    • BlackSheepx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7...What are you using that takes weeks to rip "ur" CDs?
    • mywhitenoise, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8What a ***** format to rip in, and a ***** player. WMA, and WMP of course.
    • lament, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15"i have thousands of songs on my computer that i ripped from cd's using wmp and its taking weeks to convert them to mp3"

      EAC + LAME is your friend.

      http://www.exactaudiocopy.org
    • daza, on 10/12/2007, -17/+10WMP *****? WMP 11 is absolutely beautiful. Go head and try it before you knock it.
    • aahpandasrun, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13WMP 11 is fine as a video player, but it lacks the customizability and filetype support to be a decent music player
    • Archon810, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'll take my MPC any day over WMP 11 (and I have both btw). And thumbs up for EAC reference. Best ripper. Ever.
    • crazybrit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Beautiful maybe, but it still sucks in functionality.
    • MacSuxWindozSux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2On the flip side... its Quicktime Alternative for me.

      Having to pay just to get full screen video is a frak'n insult.
  • windwaker, on 10/12/2007, -16/+16I used (don't anymore) YamiPod for many months, but when iTunes 7 came out, it started erasing my gapless playback data on the iPod. The developer is a huge jerk who REFUSES to make it open source so that other people can help him (he doesn't own an iTunes 7 compatible iPod, so instead of putting the source code on his site and asking another developer to check part of it with their iPod, he petitioned and got about $75 of donations for him to buy an iPod).

    But this was a while ago; maybe he got a new iPod and fixed the bugs.
    • deathray, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19You cannot force someone to Open Source an application, he spent his own time and its his own wish what he wants to do with it. If that is your point why not force Apple to make iTunes open source.
    • windwaker, on 10/12/2007, -15/+7So? I didn't say that he was doing something illegal, but if he really cared about the people who use his program, he would post the source so others could help him, rather than having a half-working iPod mutilating program.
    • nogami, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6There are lots of other (free) alternatives to this program... Just use something else instead.
    • superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have a first gen iPod - it works just fine with iTunes 7. There is no iPod that is "not compatible with iTunes 7". More likley what he really wants to do is keep using Hymn to striip DRM from AAC files, which is fine - but he really shouldn't lie as to the reasons behind his actions.
    • windwaker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Digg users are morons. What I'm saying is this guy only wants your money, this started out as a project for one of his college classes anyway. He doesn't care about the user base.
    • windwaker, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1And yes, there is an iPod that is not compatible with the iTunes 7 iPod update. You know, the one that allowed for gapless playback.

      It's called "any iPod that isn't a fifth generation/video".
  • Zivko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30How does this effect DRM? There is no Digital Rights Management on songs you put on the iPod unless you purchased them from iTMS. It's a Copyright thing, not DRM.

    And even then, it doesn't REMOVE the DRM from iTMS purchased songs.

    Handy, but inaccurate. The submitter obviously doesn't know what DRM is.
  • uziemac, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0PodUtil has also let you take music from iPod to Computer... its shareware, but works for 50 songs a time, with a please donate pop-ip in between each set.
  • MLyzz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Yeah this is REAL new news. There are tons of apps that do this.

    Im not crapping on this digg but REALLY?? just try a google search for this kids.

    On the other hand, I AM really glad that people know another way to steal music, it makes me feel good.
    • ReinMasamuri, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6It's narrow thinking like yours that makes the headaches of DRM a fact of life.
      The ability to backup the songs you PURCHASE is NOT stealing. It's your right to backup the songs your purchase.
      Oh, and despite what the RIAA says, every person who purchases songs is NOT a potential thief.
    • g3r4, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Actually, everyone is. Because everyone can potentially help someone steal that music. Now, statistically, probably not... Well, then again...
    • Tippis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@ ReinMasamuri
      "The ability to backup the songs you PURCHASE is NOT stealing."

      And, incidentally, "backing up" songs you HAVEN'T purchased isn't stealing either...
  • lozaning, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6why cant you just do it the old fashion way and plug your ipod in and move the files manually. its not that hard i can back up my entire 40gb ipod in like 5 minutes
  • somnambulist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Music on your iPod is stored in a hidden directory with obfuscated filenames. (I'm guessing there is a good technical reason for this --- it's probably quicker for the iPod to deal with finding 'F00/AJOZ.m4a' than it is to parse through a human readable directory.) The only tracks with DRM would be anything purchased from the iTunes music store or through Audible. Anything your rip or import is going to come into iTunes as an un-DRM'd AAC or MP3 and get transferred to your iPod as un-DRM'd AAC or MP3.

    To 'extract' your music, just drop it back into iTunes or pretty much any other MP3 playing program which can read ID3 tags.
    • DuFace, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Why did you digg him down? Everything he said is true. You can get the music off your iPod in the hidden folder and then let itunes rename it based in the tags.
  • nato64, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1iTunes 7 introdced this feature...

    http://www.apple.com/itunes/sync/transfer.html

    Unless iTunes 7 only allows you to do this via purchased music. I'm not sure.
    • evilspoons, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Purchased only, yes.
    • akjay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0From your link, "Music and media not purchased from the iTunes store only syncs one way, from your computer to your iPod. To transfer non-purchased music from computer-to-computer," Though if you own the other non purchased stuff you most likely have backup DVD's you can use to transfer them to your work pc.
    • Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Music and media not purchased from the iTunes store only syncs one way, from your computer to your iPod. To transfer non-purchased music from computer-to-comput
      should have read the blue print dude
      litterally
  • deetank, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah, I missed the part where programs like this became new.
  • utcursch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Blogspam + Duplicate:
    http://digg.com/software/YamiPod_0.83_is_available_for_Mac,_Linux_and_Windows.
  • kdmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14say NO to blogspam
  • ArchAngel21x, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2I don't understand what your beef with iTunes is. It is the only product with DRM that has not got in the way of me being able to enjoy my music. No digg.
  • Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6or you could just buy an MP3 player that will let you use it how you want, and let your wallet be $200 thicker
  • colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Ummmm. iTunes lets you copy your music off to multiple computers. I actually use that feature in often to keep my two Macs in sync with my iPod.

    Did the blogger do any fact checking?
  • genrik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Too bad "DRM" still applies to music purchased through iTunes, lame.
  • BryanTheCrow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1grep ftw
  • Trizzle74, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3this is old.
  • misteroo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i did and i can tell you this is not the easiest thing although possible. I don t find it normal i can t reload my music on any computer with no tricky manipulation
  • Raider2044, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Personally, I like this app I just found via http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/01/9283/
  • GerryDaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ephpod...it's the real deal baby.
  • inkhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There has been PLENTY OF FREE tools that already allowed for this. Why is this news? Geeze, did the person who posted this story every hear of a search engine?
    • BIGmog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah and lots of those free programs are terrible, nagware, or both. If you have suggestions, let's hear em.
    • MidoriKid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Amarok is iPod compatible and is superior to iTunes in many ways (not all). http://amarok.kde.org/
      Unfortunately, one of those ways it is not superior is that it is not cross platform. Linux only.
  • NeoTSN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You don't need an app to get your songs from the iPod. Plug in your iPod, let's say it becomes drive "F" on Windows ...Windows Explorer > Tools > Folder Options > View tab > Show Hidden Files and Folders....navigate to F:/iPod_Control/Music (I can't use backslash here) ....note the F## folders. Your music is stored in there, in .mp3 or whatever extension your original song was.
    • BIGmog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The filenames are all cryptic though. You'll need an app to rename them from the ID3 tags.
    • hoboshaveknives, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0iTunes will rename your files using the ID3 tags ;)
  • queraxus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2This topic is both inaccurate and simply Apple bashing. Lame.
  • ataylor32, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sure this program will let you copy music from your iPod to your computer, but will it let you do it with 42 STOLEN iPods... at the same time?!
  • koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Mac users, don't waste your time with YamiPod. I use an excellent Open Source Mac app called Senuti (iTunes backwards) that not only copies music off your iPod, it also imports it into iTunes for you, and has a great UI to boot. This doesn't help if, like Ouriel, you don't want to use iTunes anymore. What other good music management apps are there for the Mac? Songbird? Too buggy.

    http://fadingred.org/senuti/
  • skeletron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The intertubes must really be getting tangled lately. I haven't used iTunes since I bought my first iPod in 2003.
  • ratporchrico, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Or try Senuti for Macs - saved my ass twice!
    http://www.fadingred.org/senuti/
    • portoLYON, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Yeap, old news... been using senuti for ages....
  • orangekid13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1in windows... go to your ipod drive and search for *.* and copy all the non system files to your itunes folder on your computer and let your itunes library organize it... easiest ***** you can pull off...

    freeware... psh
  • Faiakes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As nixonrichard said above, if you are a windows user you don't need an additional piece of software. WInAmp will see, download or upload any (non-drm) song to iPod.

    The only reason to have yamipod, sharepod, etc., is that they reside in the iPod so you can still share music with those friends of yours who do not have (but should have) WinAmp.
  • Aquashark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2iTunes sucks ass from a straw.. it's in my top list of overrated crappy software
    luckily i'm not forced to used because i would've returned it (i use a Windows Explorer shell integrated software that allows copy/pasting and organizing files directly on the iPod drive without having to use intermediary programs)
    • Elric1977, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Not sure of the iTunes you are using, but I think it's the best audio video software managment program out there. There is nothing finer than getting ***** done with one click, two tops!
      Maybe you haven't used it in a few years, but you should really check it out now, it's clean, and incredibly easy to use, yet very versatile.
  • krunk4ever, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This has nothing to do with DRM. All your songs are located inside a hidden folder which you can easily see if you enable viewing of hidden folder and files. They even have the exact same filename as your original computer.

    If you want to remove the DRM from songs you purchased from iTunes, try QTFairUse,
  • over900, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use the ml_ipod plugin for winamp.
  • Elric1977, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use a little script in iTunes called "Import iPod audio files" it takes about 6 minutes to take from an 6Gig Nano. Certainly not new, and it doesn't take up any hard drive space. It's not even a program, just a very small script that adds the option to itunes.
  • beaner2011, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Old news as it's been out for ages, but dugg because it's an awesome tool which runs straight off an iPod.
  • HsoKinees, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I see... personally, i think WinDIRstat is a great piece of software, using it to display hidden folders and which folders contain lots of data, i could easily track down where every music file on my old ipod was kept! from there, it was as simple as ctrl+x and ctrl+v :D
  • MrLint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0GAH! My eyes are bleeding reading this post...

    You can copy music from iPod to your computer
    [Ok this is an actual issue people might want to address.]

    , bye bye stupid DRM rules that do not let me copy music i bought from my iPod to another computer (at work for example)

    DRM is not preventing this, in fact nothing really is. At most its obfuscation. Secondly, you can't buy music from your iPod, you buy it with iTunes, which then stores it on your computer in a nicely named folder by the band name. If you cant figure out how to copy a file.. well it might lead you to this misleading post.
  • JurneyAhed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1is there an app that can create a detailed list of all music on your iPod (eg say create an Excel spreadsheet that features title, album, genre etc.)?
    • netferret, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1depends what you are looking for exactly, if its just a file list your after then you can do start -> run -> cmd -> dir *.mp3 /s > mylist.txt otherwise you will need something a bit fancier.
  • RickyBennett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1why not just unhide the folder that the music is in on the ipod and drag and drop to the computer
  • BadassCheese, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why not enable disk use on your iPod, then search it with explorer for "*.mp3" (or other file types) then ctrl+a. then copy and paste them?
  • timtimes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1About Apple's 'reverse' syncing (from the link the fanboys keep posting)

    Music and media not purchased from the iTunes store only syncs one way, from your computer to your iPod. To transfer non-purchased music from computer-to-computer,

    So it will transfer the songs YOU BOUGHT. You have to go thru an Apple video tutorial to get info on moving the rest. That is not very
    convenient IMHO. I own a Macmini and a 60 gig Ipod video. Also use Itunes. Love it. I do miss some windows apps (picassa, winamp etc.)
    but certainly DON'T MISS WINDOWS !!!!!!! Not a MS hater (own a 360), but their O/S BITES.

    Apple should be writing and providing the COMPLETE application to it's userbase. Don't know the specifics on the many aforementioned
    freeware apps that attempt to do this, but I am glad to see somebody address the issue.

    Enjoy.
  • Snarfy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I had an iPod mini, back when iTunes was at version 6. You did not need iTunes to use it. You could simply copy files to the iPod from windows explorer.

    I recently received an iPod Nano for Christmas. iTunes is now at version 7, and low and behold, I cannot even copy music to the iPod anymore. Apparently all music is stored on a separate partition these days. You HAVE to use iTunes (or an app like the one in this article) if you want to use your iPod. Also, it would frequently lock up completely when I would hit shuffle songs. You could not even turn the thing off when it was locked up, even the secret key combinations would not turn it off. Plugging it in to a PC is the only thing that would bring it out of that frozen state as it would say "connected to PC; do not disconnect" or something like that. If you weren't around a PC, or didn't have the cable, you were screwed until you were around one.

    I found an easy fix. I took the iPod back to the store and got a SanDisk Sansa. Same price, twice the features, non of the broken issues. When the rechargeable batteries in your iPod eventually die and need replaced, you have to send it back to Apple. There is no way to change the battery. How lame is that? You can change the rechargeable batteries in the Sansa.

    It's just like Apple. They'll make something really really cool, then totally screw it up because of a couple poorly designed primary features, like the soft-power button. I thought Macs might be cool until I had to eject a CD. Can somebody explain to me how throwing something in the trashcan is analogous to ejecting it from the computer? A little guy in an fighter plane with a big ***** 'eject' button would have been more intuitive.

    The only compelling thing about the iPod is the iTunes music store, and even then I would rather go to the artist's website and buy the CD directly than to buy it through iTunes. You usually can.
    • 35263526, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Are you sure? Admittedly you're probably talking about the 2nd Gen, Nano and I've only got a 1st, but for every iPod I've ever used the music has always been on the FAT partition in a hidden folder. Programs like this may well be useful if they rename the files themselves, but ultimately for me and probably many other people, the name stored in the tag data is all that's necessary.
    • Snarfy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The mini I had was what they called 4th gen in the linux4ipod sites. I'm not sure what generation they are up to now but the Nano I had was a brand new 8GB model. There were no hidden folders I could find. On the mini, it could be done, but it wasn't very intuitive for the non technical. On the Nano, with latest iTunes 7 updates, you have to use special software. There are a ton of 3rd party apps that do it, but it's not natively supported anymore. It's a bunch of proprietary ***** that I just didn't want to deal with. I just wanted an mp3 player that I could turn on/off without needing a software update from Apple.

  • crazybrit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why would I want to get rid of iTunes?
    • Phoenixfury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Crazybrit, I can not fathom this either. I can understand that not everyone likes it and would rather use a different media player. I just don't understand the fanboyism for other players and the absolute hatred towards any other media player but the one they like. From my perspective, having someone poo poo iTunes and praise what looks to me a very basic clone of iTunes doesn't make it look or sound any better to me. Granted Yamipod does have many features that iTunes doesn't, but there's plenty of great software out there that make up for those features that iTunes is lacking.
  • Phoenixfury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What does Webtech's comment saying "bye bye stupid DRM rules" mean? Granted Yamipod likely can copy music you bought from iTunes, but he makes it sound like Yamipod strips the DRM in the process. If Yamipod doesn't actually strip the DRM from your purchased music, than his comment is pointless and misleading.
  • hallofriend, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Yamipod is yummy!
    And no, his comment is not pointless and misleading, Phoenixfury...
    • Phoenixfury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why didn't you just hit reply on my comment to tell me that? How could Webtech's comment about copying DRM files from the iPod not be pointless and misleading. Sure Yamipod can do it the same as any other ipod specific copy software which can copy protected music from the iPod. However Webtech makes it sound like this is the end all solution for dealing with Apple's DRM. If you are going to use Yamipod as an iTunes alternative, what would be the point of copying your protected purchased music if you can't even play it through Yamipod. The only way this could work is if Yamipod actually strips the DRM from your purchased music which I doubt that it is doing. I didn't see anything on the Yamipod website that states that it can play iTunes protected files, so how is Webtech's statement not misleading?

      In hind site I realize he made a typo and meant brought, not bought. However his DRM comment has nothing to do with the ability to copy music from the iPod to a PC. DRM only prevents you from just giving away music you purchased to everyone else amongst other annoyances, but nothing more. Otherwise Yamipod is only doing what other iTunes alternatives are doing, and that's making file transfers between media player and the iPod bi-directional.
  • osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1or you can just have it mount as a disk and copy it that way. iTunes will organize your music so it doesn't matter that it's split up into random directories.
  • twoblackeyes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah, I must say that this set of apple scripts is far better for doing this than any thing else I've seen. Adds a little script menu to iTunes and you can copy files from your iPod to wherever you want (Mac OS X only though).

    http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/15951
  • NubSlayer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The program Senuti is like ten times better
  • rajaal1977, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Attn: Mac Users

    Bar none, hands down the indisputable choice for freeware iPod disk management is "iPoddisk" (http://ipoddisk.ourbiti.com/). I loaded "Yamipod," was asked what gen ipod I owned, received numerous script errors and finally I zapped it with Appzapper. With ipoddisk, it took me about 10 sec. from launch to dragging and dropping in no time.

    • frickindeal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1replied to the wrong post...oops
  • gogog0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1sharepod is 20x better, ive been using it for years.
    http://www.sturm.net.nz/website.php?Section=iPod+Programs&Page=SharePod
    • frickindeal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love sharepod too. It's simple, complete and runs from the iPod itself, meaning you don't have to have anything installed on the host computer to use it. If you've got an iPod cable, you can transfer your (non-DRM'd) songs to any computer with Artist/Album/Title naming intact.

      However, read the news on his site:
      "Some bad news today - SharePod's editing functionality (add/remove songs from iPod) is not supported anymore, and should be considered as 'use at your own risk'."
      "The reason I can no longer support the edit functionality is basically time and effort! It has become almost impossible for me to

      1. Support new iPod features (photos/videos anyone?!) without buying a new iPod every few months
      2. Find the time to reverse engineer each little change Apple makes to the iPod database to ensure sharepod doesnt corrupt it

      So, if you want to use iTunes with your iPod, I have to recommend not to use SharePod's add/remove feature"

      That's from the author of sharepod, and it scared me enough to stop using it.
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