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Complete Opera 9 Review

gomeler.com — This review of Opera 9 covers nearly every feature included in Opera including BitTorrent and IRC. Opera is put up against Firefox and uTorrent with very interesting results. Includes screenshots of Opera in action.

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  • treycopeland, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18very very very nice writeup about opera.
    • IntelMac, on 10/12/2007, -60/+3Great review gomeler
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    • jrkagan, on 10/12/2007, -9/+27I really wish people would stop using Digg comments to push their blogs and websites. The "signatures" people create are really annoying, and they're also a pretty sure-fire way to get dugg down.
    • optimus008, on 10/12/2007, -29/+5[Qoute]I really wish people would stop using Digg comments to push their blogs and websites. The "signatures" people create are really annoying, and they're also a pretty sure-fire way to get dugg down.[Quote/]

      Then stop using Digg, god I hate people.

      Opera is really nice, I'm glad they are finally free.
    • coonzel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22its funny though, when they get modded down with mass numbers, its an incentive for people to open it up :P
    • politech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Very good review. Opera 9 improves on more than just added features, they have improved performance (which suffered in version 8 - version 7 was quicker and more efficient).

      Then there are the little things...like "paste and go" (right click context menu). When I use FireFox or IE I really notice it's absence.
    • flyinglikeakite, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2It It isnt a complete review by any measure. It misses out on a heck of a lot of kewl features.
      http://digg.com/software/Opera_v9_:_Excellent_but_not_Perfect
  • gomeler, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21Thanks for the digg, I know I didn't cover everything in Opera but I tried to point out everything that really made it unique. While Opera isn't the most beautiful browser out there it does have some potential to be decent.
    • SpookyET, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15There are skins. There are also native skins (they only contain icons; Opera uses the OS to render the controls). You can make it pretty.
    • Yogurth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Nice review man, but You could add a feature or two more ^^.
      M2 client comes in mind, aswell as CTRL+Tab, which gives You thumbnail preview/cycle of opened tabs(quite nice actually). You shouldn't have excluded Content Blocker either, which is not only very powerful but also very elegant in the way it works.
  • CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21Opera 9 owns. I switched back to it. Noticed it's faster than my firefox (which is now uninstalled) and the bittorent implementation is great.

    Can't complain, really.
  • RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13When I browse the web, I really crush browsers. I usually have about five or ten windows opened - each with about seven or eight tabs. Safari will grind to a halt - and firefox isn't much better... but Opera is still zippity fast.

    The speed - plus the mouse gestures makes me like it. I still don't use it as my default browser. I keep it open, and when Safari grinds to a halt I jump over and start using Opera.

    The one thing that bugs me is that the Mac OS X version doesn't have an easy way for you to have it open the folder that you download files into... Unlike Safari - you can't just click on a spotlight next to the file name to have it open in the finder... This is probably the main reason it's not my main browser yet.
    • bosewicht, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4You look at way too much pr0n !!! :)
  • gomeler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I really noticed that the memory management abilities within Opera are so much better than with Firefox. I also beat on browsers very heavily and I require crisp service with no memory hits and Opera offers this. If Opera looked just a little bit better than I'd probably use it over Flock. I just love the blogging feature within Flock, add that to Opera and you are set.
    • Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Tools -> Appearance -> Windows Native

      I don't know why they stikc to that ***** theme of theirs when the windows native one is so much better (and uses less ram).
  • intricate, on 10/12/2007, -36/+4It still won't fully compete with Firefox until it's open source.
    • Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Why? Because you edit the source code of every open-source project before you use it?
    • ocram, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6If you use Firefox on Windows then that's the least of your problems.
    • flyinglikeakite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4How does open source affect an end user?
  • GeneHACKman, on 10/12/2007, -17/+6My Opera crashes every time I try to go to a reasonably-sized site. Sometimes it just crashes for the hell of it.
    • dirtyfratboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7The keywords are "My Opera." It's probably your comp. I haven't had many problems, I've actually seen many of my pet peeves with Opera disappear. Did anyone else get that weird link jumping effect on Digg when you moused over the link to see which of your friends dugg it? (This happened before 9). Thank god that's gone.
    • Yogurth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Don't digg down a man that has a problem. This site should be about helping eachoter not just bitching(though that helps too sometimes :) )
    • Neolit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Gene, if you had any previous Opera versions installed you might want to un-install every Opera browser that had been installed on your comp. Clean the thing up, then restart Windows and try again with a fresh install of Opera 9.
  • SuperNick, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4Meh Opera doesn't excite me like it used to. Firefox (with my extensions) > any browser ever... I don't know if I'll ever change from Firefox. Though I do admit Opera is faster than Firefox and to an extent more beautiful (and it does have more features out of the box).
  • unsympathetic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I'm switching just for the IRC ;)
  • VoxMagis, on 10/12/2007, -9/+8I love(d) Opera.

    However, the extensions and themes of Firefox, as well as it's general 'comfort' level for me finally drew me back.
  • mattus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+8Opera has been better out-of-the-box for some time but Fx is more extensible.

    I'm not sure I see the importance of RAM usage. I bet everyone on this page has at least 512MB and most 1024+. I have 1024 and am not really concerned whether my browser uses 25 or 35.

    • bobinator, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Unless you're multitasking or playing a game at the same time.
    • gomeler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7What happens when your browser is using 180 MB though? Routinely when I am writing articles I can have as many as 30 to 40 tabs open in multiple windows. Yes I have 1 gig of ram, but I also run a distributed computing client that can use as much free ram as possible. Just because you have the memory there is no excuse for a browser to use it all. Do you mind that Windows is also bloated and loves to eat memory? Some people notice the memory hits, I happen to be one of them.
    • rizzo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6while I have beefy 2gig machines, right now I'm running on an old pentium 2 with 128MB or ram, the only browsers that ever get a go on this machine are opera and K-Meleon for the sake of performance
    • Squinky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If you're working in photoshop (or other similar memory hungry application) a low browser overhead is absolutely essential.
  • radu79, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Opera has so many other cool sruff.
    Ctrl+b for example to go to the URL in the clipboard. (no more paste it into the addrss bar, hit enter).
    You can clone a tab, so if you want to go back in the history without leaving the current page, just hit "clone" and then in the new tab you can go back in the history.
    There are so many other features, and it's such a fast and clean browser, that I can't understand why not everyone is using it. I would even pay for it, and I do that for very few programs (like TextPad, Trillian Pro,..)
    • nonhuman, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0How is cloning a tab then using the second tab to go back in the history different from just creating a new tab and using the second one to go back in the history?
    • radu79, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Because the new tab won't have the history.
      You'd have to create a new tab, copy the url from the first in the second, press enter, go back to the first tab, and check the history. And what if you need two histories? Or 3?
  • atdigg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Opera HAS extensions http://userjs.org/ and widgets.
    • Ancestor, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Come on, userjs scripts and widgets are cool but anyone will tell that they can't compare with Firefox's extensions in terms of capabilities.
    • nonhuman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ancestor

      That's because the user base is smaller so there aren't as many people developing extensions for it.... Arguing that people shouldn't use it because the extensions aren't as good is a self fulfilling prophesy.
    • Ancestor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No, it's not the smaller user base, at least not only. Userjs and widgets are fundamentally less capable as technologies. Firefox is built using XUL, JavaScript, XPCOM components etc. which is the same that you use when writing an extension. What it means is that there's virtually no limit as to as far you can go, how much can you modify the app. Widgets and Userjs just don't have the technology to allow it.
  • Quactaur, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I'd love to use opera's engine, having followed the weekly builds from TP2 onwards, but i'm completely addicted to Flock, so there's no going back now.
  • Ilyanep, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I've been using Opera 9 weeklies since it has been in TP1, and I just love it.

    The only thing I don't like is the BitTorrent support. I'd much rather just use Azureus.
    • LucasVB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Well, do it then. Go to preferences and disable native bittorrent support.
    • Devz0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i think it's more for the less advanced users to just download it when they see it without confusion
    • kortiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yeah I dont like the bit torrent support either, just go to opera:config and its at the top of the page, and just untick it
  • kowcop, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3I like Opera for what it is, and I usually try each version as it comes out, but I just can't justify having 3 different browsers installed. I can't get rid of IE, there is certain functionality in Firefox I can't do without.. I just feel sorry for opera because they make a good product, they are just fighting an uphill battle
  • nrbelex, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3The author specifically says it's not a "complete" review and I'd just like to remind users that Firefox can have all of the features listed and hundreds more with extensions.
    • NoMoreNicksLeft, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6No bittorrent extension last I checked. It was in perpetual alpha testing, no availability.

      Also, the author missed out on Opera 9's superior SVG support.
  • Fab1anFab1an, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I'm using Opera because its fast and stays responsive even with many tabs open. What I also like is how Opera uses windows inside a window (I believe it's called MDI) and really just uses 1 main window whereas Firefox always somehow finds a way to keep poping up extra unecesarry windows on the taskbar.

    Only one thing is really annoying and that is that you can't drag and drop the items on the toolbars (bookmarks etc).
    • LucasVB, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Huh? I drag and drop bookmarks all the time under Opera. What are you talking about?
    • Fab1anFab1an, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Try dragging a link from a website into a folder on the toolbar. you can't. and even when it's already on the toolbar you still can't drag it into a folder, and also not to the bookmarks menu. You always have to open "Manage bookmarks..." first. In firefox/IE you can just drag wherever you want.
  • CornStarch, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Looks good but I'm still waiting for user extension.
  • mendicant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Other mentionables for opera:

    They finally added authentication that works with windows integrated authentication. Try logging into a sharepoint site with opera 8. You can't do it. But you can now.

    Also, If you close a tab and you didn't want to.... just click on the little garbage can next to the tabs and bam... back where you were. This is probably part of the reason why the reviewer didn't see a total drop in ram when closing all the tabs. They were still semi-there in the recycle bin (for lack of a better term).

    Normally I'd go on all day, but I don't have the time. I love it. Keep up the good work guys.
  • ScottMaximus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Firefox can have all those features, With Extensions that can(and frequently do) leak memory and make your Firefox client more unstable. These Features are built into Opera rather than Plug-ins and added layers of code. To which his own, If you want to use Firefox with an Extension Cocktail, then go right ahead.
    • mendicant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Not to mention, I haven't found a single mouse gesture extension for firefox that is as slick and smooth as the mouse gestures in opera.

      Please, if anyone can fill me in on one, let me know. As for right now though, every mouse gesture package that I've used for FF is slow, clumsy and feels like I've got a 5lb weight tied to my wrist.
    • alspar, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1On the other hand, plugins allow people to choose exactly what goes into their browser. If I don't want IRC and bittorrent built in then I don't have to have it. I have tried Opera and its a great product. However the sacrifice in flexibility simply isn't worth the small speed boost for me.
  • lampshade, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Fails for not letting me delete more than one of their built in search engines I don't want at once... I had to go hand delete each. I hate crap like that because I just expect to be able to shift click, delete and wipe out a bunch

    was there a better way that I missed
  • meefman, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2I downloaded it last night. Went onto myspace - the first flash advertisement i encountered stalled it to a crawl with my 1.9 Ghz computer going into a nosedive. NEXT!
    • Stormwysper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Odd. I installed it on an old P3 450 running Win 98 and 256mb of ram and it instaled fine.
  • missrose, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4Sweet!
  • mutejute, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5downloaded and installed it. problem is, it wont connect. error is "Could not connect to remote server". tried changing the network settings, with or without proxies, still it doesnt work.
    • Yogurth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If Your computer connects through SOCKS 4 or 5, You won't be able to connect at all without some 3rd party proxy manager. Unfortunately Opera still does not support SOCKS.
    • alspar, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Opera Zealots: Please explain why you're digging someone down for having a problem with the browser.
    • atdigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Beacause that's not relevant. It might be an invented problem since it's not something that you see often (or at all) on Opera forum and it's not something that happens to everyone who tries Opera. Most likely there's a problem with the computer not with Opera.
  • wolkengrau, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Some words to the Firefox fighters in here:

    I've used Firefox for a long, long time and I really came to like Firefox. There were some things about it, that annoyed me, though. As using too much RAM or just being too slow (http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html). I kept Firefox, because I liked the extensions and thought there was no replacement for them in Opera.
    I was wrong. During the beta phase I switched to Opera. For every crucial extension I used, there was an adequate counterpart in Opera. They were all already built-in. Just try it once, it's free. ;-)
  • kbeeveer46, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5Until there is a decent ad block for Opera I won't be touching it. I've tried a few of them and they don't compete at all with Adblock Plus for FF.
    • Yogurth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7You do know that Opera comes with adBlocker Built in? It works just as well as FF blockers? but it's called Content Blocker and by default it's available on right click menu as item "Block Content". Once You click it Opera will go into "dim mode" showing You what content can be blocked directly from there. You just need to click the content You want blocked and its off for good, till You decide to bring it back(unblock it) with same action used for blocking.
      You can also add wildcards for domains or sites or keywords inside Content Blocker Preferences.
    • kbeeveer46, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3@Yugurth

      You think I want to waste my time trying to block every ad on every single webpage that I visit? Adblock Plus + Filterset.G Updater automatically block ads on any site that I visit. List of blockable items are automatically updated so the latest advertisements are blocked. The content blocker in Opera is not a true ad blocker. The point of getting rid of flash and ads is so the they don't have to be loaded with the webpage. What's the point of the content blocker in Opera if the ads are already loaded and then I have to go block them one-by-one?
    • Stormwysper, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3"Until there is a decent ad block for Opera I won't be touching it. I've tried a few of them and they don't compete at all with Adblock Plus for FF. "


      I agree. Main reason I use FF most of the time. That and the "remove this" extension make it really nice for us people who only have dial up.
    • Yogurth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8You are not correct kbeeveer46, If You actually tried to block anything You would have seen that everything that has same characteristics gets blocked on chosen page. This rule will be automatically applied on other pages You visit that have content conforming with that particular rule. As for autoupdatable block list, there is still no such thing but If You browse through Opera forums You will find complete urlfilter.ini sets that will block everything that FF blocks with G filterset. Only difference is that You need to do copy/paste it manually. I wish there was autoupdate feature but in the end it makes no difference since content is blocked anyway.

      It took me 2 days of normal browsing and using Content Blocker, to block absolutely every commercial flash or no flash there is. I also added few wildcard rules manually and my surfing is completely ad free. No Adsense, No those annoying inline ads very popular now called intellitxt, no flash commercials, no banners.....etc

      here a sample of my urlfilter.ini:

      http://*.ads.*
      http://*.burstnet.com/*
      http://*.click.adbrite.com/*
      http://*.doubleclick.net/*
      http://*.eshop.msn.com/*
      http://*.fastclick.net/*
      http://*.googlesyndication.com/pagead/*
      http://*.hitbox.net/*
      http://*.intellitxt.com/*
      http://*.ivwbox.de/*
      http://*.kontera.com/*
      http://*.tradedoubler.*
      http://*.us.intellitxt.com/*
      http://*/ads/*
      http://*ad.doubleclick.net/*
      http://*layer-ads.de/*
      http://*linkexchange*
    • kbeeveer46, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0@Yogurth

      It still doesn't come close to the amount of blocking options and ease of use compared to Adblock for FF. Opera still allows ads to be rendered and then I have to block individual ads (most of the time it only allows me to block pictures mind you). FF allows me to block entire frames that contain ads. This is the main reason I use FF and since Opera's adblock isn't any better or easier to use then it's not worth switching to it.
  • OficerMantimber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Good to see my favorite browser get a good review. Opera is the fastest browser I have ever used and it includes a multitude of features in it. Essentially, as I have heard before, Opera is the "OSX of browsers". And yes, Opera has a great ad blocker. Installing extensions and new skins is incredibly easy.I still prefer utorrent to the built in bittorrent tracker, but even in beta it crushes the competition.
  • JambaDude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2oh and don't forget the customized searches on the address bar. you can type "g term here" and it will search term here in google. not only that, you can make your own search letters by using "%s" as the variable. for example, i have letter y as yahoo search and http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=FP-pull-web-t&ei=UTF-8&p=%s as the search url. if i type in "y asdf" in the address bar, it will search for asdf in yahoo. if you're good, you can code it for wikipedia, like i have, and other forums or websites as well. this is the thing that will keep me hooked to opera forever.
    • benthere, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You can do the same in Firefox. Right-click search field on a site, like say Wikipedia, click Add a Keyword for this Search. Enter w or g or y or whatever for Keyword.
    • kennyvader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Reasonably trivial to do this in IE too with a reg hack - just add reg entries like
      [HKEY_CURRENT_USER|Software|Microsoft|Internet Explorer|SearchUrl|gmap]
      @="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=%s"

      (change the | for backslashes - Digg doesn't allow backslash in comments)
      where gmap is your search keyword and %s is where the search terms need to go in the resulting URL. Then you can just type "gmap staten island" and get the map right up.

      What I have is a reg file of about 30 of these short codes and I just import it into my user profile on any machine I use.
  • JackSpratts, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1opera users - please visit the forums (toolbar: help>community>forums>opera browser) before installing 9 over 8.

    - js.
  • dragazis, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I don't mean to be a pesimist, but this has to be one of the worst interfaces I have ever enecountered. If they didn't have skins, I don't know how they would have users. As far as features and speed goes, it's the fastest for me out of Camino (pipelining enabled), Firefox (G4 optimized), Safari, and OmniWeb sneaky peak beta (w/ latest webkit). Flock comes second with speed, then Camino. Features, well I don't really need the widgets, or built in Bittorrent client, but I do think the tab implementation was nicely done (with the site preview). I think most of the features are fun and useful. Sure, many of us might not use them all (if you do infact try the browser out) but, I think Opera has something here and it will be interesting to see where it goes.
    • Devz0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4because firefox is absolutely orgasmic looking
  • marysuze, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1The only (huge) problem about Opera is not the interface, that's just stupid because you can customize it highly.

    The big big problem is the way it loads pages. It totally screws up most of the pages. Like designers and developpers didn't have it complicated enough already making sites for firefox and IE, opera insists in seeing them different also.

    That's so moronic.
    • atdigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Opera is standards compliant, it passes ACID2 test thing that you can't say about IE or even Firefox for now although I think 2.0 is supposed to pass the test.
    • geekguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0ACID2 is a bunch of bunk. It's basically a PR front for Opera and everyone knows it. Why? Because firefox and IE representatives don't seem to be involved. Why? Because WaSP isn't interested in them...infact they are rude to them. These people are interested in PR...blah blah web standards blah blah look opera passes our test blah blah how come no one else does? If this work is SOOOO important why isn't it being done through the W3C? This small group of people isn't fooling anyone with enough brains to ask a few questions.

      This guy has experience dealing with these WaSPs:
      http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2005/03/16.html#a9659
    • worbd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm sorry to have to say this, but you are a moron, geekguy. Never mind the fact that Safari passed Acid2 before Opera. Never mind the fact that the test was written by several people, including people from Google. Never mind the fact that the home of the test is an independent organization. Yes, Mozilla is represented in that organization.

      Get a clue. You are even using Scoble's lies to support your nonsense.

      Again, you truly are a moron. A ***** moron.
  • marysuze, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1atdigg:
    Doesn't matter. Standard compliant browsers are not what people use. So obviously designers/developpers will not make standard compliant websites. They'll make websites to be viewed on what people use. Opera makers (or anyone else for that matter) can't expect the world to suddenly change just to be compliant and use their browser. That's insane.

    PS: digg added this reply to general instead of adding to my previous thread. Not my fault. some kind of bug
  • finke67, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0I was wondering how Opera 9 compared with Avant? I use Avant b/c I like the mouse shortcuts (opening links in new tabs with mouse wheel, forward/backward mouse click navigation)... maybe nobody else uses Avant.
  • exclipy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Go Opera! Firefox is where the hype is but Opera is where the real innovation is.

    I've been using Opera for five years, since 5.0. At the time, Opera already had a search bar, multiple document interface and a very good download manager. Since then, I've seen them add mouse gestures, a full featured mail client, IRC client, newsfeed reader, SVG support, BitTorrent support, Widgets, among a slew of other things. Many of these features have since been copied by rivals, but many remain unique. If you want to see the future direction for web browsers, use Opera.

    On top of that, because the entire featureset is implemented by the one company (ie. no extensions), everything works consistently, quickly, and reliably. Also, the toolbars, keyboard shortcuts and mouse gestures can be customised easily to do quite powerful things. If you still think you can't live without extensions, there's UserJS and the Widgets.

    Firefox people say they're glad they don't have features integrated in because they don't want the bloat, but they just haven't tried Opera - the download is smaller, and any feature you don't use is cleverly hidden and doesn't consume any extra resources. Firefox is just like IE but without the security vulnerabilities. Opera is like Firefox, but with a million more features.
  • EdwardsNH, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Tried it... still prefer firefox.

    I like that Opera can open all the tabs that were open on your last session, but that's it.

    Extensions make firefox very well suited for anyones needs.

    Of course, use whatever the hell you like :)
  • sterling1989, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Its no wonder Nintendo went with Opera for the DS and the Wii. Opera like Nintendo is the real innovator in their market. They once again introduce features that all the rest will copy. Not to knock the other guys as I love firefox. But its obvious that Opera is moving the "web browser" forward.
  • CoolWind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Opera is fast and slick with lots of features, but it's still easier to use Firefox....
    One thing I love about Opera is that when you go back to a previous page it doesn't download anything, it just goes back immediately.
    One thing I hate about Firefox is if you want to save a page as ... Firefox will re-download the entire page. How utterly stupid. Everything is right there on the screen, but they don't know where to find everything without going back to the internet. Even if you right-click an image and choose save as, Firefox will re-download the image. Very dumb.
    Other than that, I don't think Opera is any way significantly better than Firefox. It's just more hamstrung by lack of extensions and lack of choices.
  • Sammy20, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1No Stumbleupon=No Opera for me.
  • fatas, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Opera gets bought by Microsoft.

    Owned.
  • elzafir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i have to say, probably all those Firefox users are IE users until a couple of years ago. I used Opera since v3, that's when I needed a faster browser for my dial-up connection. Firefox wasn't even been concieved.

    Opera is the front runners of the browser world, much like Mac OS. Firefox is like Linux.
    Or Opera = Nintendo. Firefox is Sony. LoL.

    too bad browser-sniffings ruined Opera browsing experience. Why can't the dudes in Opera implements the SAME codes or whateva like Firefox did on page renderring? So that Opera wont be blocked by Yahoo.

    And to all Firefox users, where were you 6 years ago? still with the crapola IE?
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