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- dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I can't stand articles that make me click through numerous pages. it's so damn annoying. just put all the ***** on the first page.
- dhughes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8 You must really hate magazines, newspapers and books.
- Digital2k6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I argue this article's main claim that HDDs are less reliable then DVDs, etc.
I've had such bad experiences with DVDs 'going bad' and becoming unreadable after only 1 year in (cool/dark & sleeved) storage that I've gone to backing everything up on two identical hard drives because reliability is much better. (and yes I used good media and only burn at 8x on a 16x DVD-R burner to increase the likelyhood of a good burn)
The hard drives are identical copies (1 western digital and 1 Seagate) and are removed from the computer and stored in a firesafe. I trust this more than 80% of my DVDs that seem to rot to crap after 6-18 months. - DuoPros, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Valid point, but the fact is those filesystems are ***** obscure! If you asked me how reiser/ext2/ext3 worked, I'd give you a blank stare, even though I use linux everyday, but ask me about fat32/ntfs, and I could give you a valid-ish answer.
- colklink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6That was an OK guide, but I don't think I would call it "complete". Nice list of software at the end though. It's too bad that a lot of times the disk is simply fried and software recovery is of little use.
- BTime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The 500GB Lacie d2 right?
It's bad for data backup as that big box actually contains two(2x) 250GB drives set up in a RAID configuration. So when your drive crashes, good luck on data recovery. - dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Do magazines make me wait for the server to respond when it is being dugg or slashdotted? Do I have to wait for images to show up in magazines?
- LycoLoco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Definitely. It has saved my drive twice, and two of my friend's drives. There's no question that Spinrite is the best for non-mechanical problems.
- KnightMareInc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7spinrite
- TimboTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Good article, but no, not complete. It does a good job covering FAT and NTFS, but what about other file systems, like ext2/3, reiser, etc? There's more to file systems than what Windows provides...
- n8r0n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I hear of this "CD/DVD rotting" happening alot. I have never experienced it myself. I back up all my digital photos to CD or DVD using Picasa and they remain in storage and I have never had one "rot" on me. I have CD-Rs that are over 6 years old that still work fine.
- BobMysterioso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Take pictures, make a crappy blog and post it to digg. I'd love to see if that worked.
- Hefe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Me too. No DVD "rot" ever. On dozens of discs over 4+ years.
- squiddity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2this article is pretty lame but it wins points for the testdisk utility it highlights, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk. I've been looking for a no-nonsense partition recovery program that can handle ext2 and linux swap partitions for the past couple of days and my google searches just turned up crap shareware. Testdisk is just what I needed... and oh snap it just finished analyzing my disks and there are my two dear lost partitions! I won't have to reinstall ubuntu after all...
- gaspy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Back when DVD drives were still "hot", i bought a Philips DVD+R drive for an an enormous amount of money; it could write at 2.4x. I also bought about 10 Philips DVD+RW discs. I used them for backup, mainly 3d stuff, textures, stock photos, that kind of thing. Since I also had th files on HDD, the DVDs sat largely unused for bout 4 years, properly stored.
When I tried to access an archive, 4 years later, I could BARELY copy the data. I had to try several DVD drives until one (a Sony I think) managed to read the DVDs and copy the content to a HDD. The whole read process was very slow as the unit retried to read the same piece several times. I'm not exagerating by saying that it took 1.5 hours to read just one disc.
In the end, I was able to make new backups using the old DVDs and the existing HDD data, but it was a very unpleasant experience. Since then, I'm not trusting DVDs anymore. - emrikol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would NOT do that! Unless the drive has only one platter, you can't (humanly) realign the platters. Your best bet is to take the logic boards and switch them.
If you take the platters out, a lot of recovery companies won't even TOUCH the drive afterwards (and I speak from experience...I knew better, but my boss made me do it (he does pay me)) - Hardcase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, I rebuild my car engine every year. What sane person doesn't?
- DontSayFanboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here's another rule for you: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. You should have used that spare maxtor on your shelf for backups.
$100 to repair a mechanical failure in a hard drive is simply not reasonable. Imagine how many hours it would take someone to disassemble the hard drive, determine the root of the failure, find parts, replace them if necessary, put the drive back together and properly test the unit? Multiply that number by the hourly rate of a technician who has the proper training to work inside the delicate environment of a hard drive that has spinning parts that need to rotate at 10,000 RPM efficiently without generating excess heat.
Data recovery firms get most of their work from law enforcement or companies whose bottom line is at risk and who didn't have the foresight to take proper backups. They're trained to recover data from all kinds of failures, including fires and floods. In many cases that's worth every penny. - LycoLoco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It doesn't do specific data recovery, but if your drive has issues with it, it'll just repair what's there automatically. You can't tell it "whoops, I deleted this mp3, go find it", but if your drive came close to a magnet, it'll fix that right (like it did mine).
- cabazorro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What bogs me down it's the outrageous prices that data recovery companies charge. Most places will not disclose their prices on line and when you call them the prices ranges go between 500 to the thousands of dollars. I lost a 30 Gig Maxtor HDD ext2 (head stuck, loud clicking noise) and when I was getting quotes from several companies the techies talked to my as if I was trying to recover the payroll of my company or the death sea scrolls. I just wanted to get my crappy home files back. I would pay $50, may be a $100, but not freaking $1k!!!
Rule x from the book of acquisitions: A friend in need is twice the profit.
I have a spare Maxtor of the same model on the shelf. I think all I need to do is open them both, switch the platters put the screws back and presto (sigh). I know, I'm hosed. - DuoPros, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anytime I ***** up, I use this; http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
Its saved my ass so many times, its not funny. Most bootup problems can be fixed by a simple 'fdisk /mbr'. - StudsTurkel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We backed up company data to CD-R a few years back. We burned about 200 CD-Rs, about 25-50 of them have gone bad so far. They have been stored in CD Cases in a cool dry location. Some of the discs are not readable, but more interestingly ~15 discs are able to crash computers simply on being spun up by the CD drive (not by trying to access them or auto-play them.) They will crash our 98, 2000 and XP desktops, xp and debian laptops. It is very odd.
(Note: We used 4 different name brand CD-Rs and 4 CD burners (two the same make/model and two different ones.) - dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1that's my point idiot
- ptaylor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2A week ago, I used Ubuntu's Live CD to try to take Vista off of my physical HD and make it all for media (I created an extra partition with Par. Magic 8 out of the free space on the 250GB HD.) I'll never do that again. My drive became unreadable to Windows and the Live CD. Over 100GB of my beloved mp3s and ISOs unreachable. This article gives me...(gasp)...hope. (tear in the eye).
Don't ask me what I was thinking. I've been doing mucho overtime lately and I was trying to triple boot my PC (XP, Vista, Ubuntu). I should have just erased Vista's partition instead of trying to merge it with my media partition. I hope this is a lesson to anyone thinking of doing this. Funny thing is, I was about to order an external drive/server to back my media up to.
I'm so hurting now! My mp3's. Oh, my mp3's..... - V1ncent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Unfortunately it didn't cover how to get data off a failing drive, but it was a decent intro for a beginner that messed somethign up on his hard drive.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Guide is not bad but the first 3 page doublespeak. To avoid any partition crash make a backup from the mbr.
dd if=/dev/sdX of=partbackup-sdX bs=512 count=1
That's it. You wont partition your disk every day, put this small file to somewhere else.
For that matter I did reiserfs recovery and thats not complicated than this procedure but the success most unlikely. - cybertron3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have never experienced the rot factor either. If I had to guess, I would say that CDs are more reliable in general, but the fact that they are removable discounts that. If they were locked in a box like a HD, I think they would probably do better. Then again, I have had a fairly good success rate with HDs (knocks on wood) with only two HD deaths. (One was a Western Digital that windows tried to fix when it wasn't broken, the other was a Maxtor that exploded [I guess I shouldn't have taken it apart while it was on- that may have been my fault]) Either way, I now keep a fire extinguisher by my desk.
- JuyLe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My Lacie d2 crashed 1 month ago, and my macbook internal hdd crashed 1 week ago. Maybe it's Murphy's Law, but it also put on relief the lake of reliability of mecanic things. I'm really looking forward for a general democratisation of Flash-based drives.
BTW, what about mac softwares ? - therebbe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't think there will be any improvement in using Flash drives. My sister has 3 friends whose camera memory cards suddenly stopped being recognised by the camera and I had to Recover their photos.
What's to stop that happening when flash is used as a hard drive? - Hardcase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You would use the Testdisk utility on the other filesystems.
- dmclone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I know this isn't a Q&A forum but here it goes....
I have 2 Hard Drives in my PC. I have an old 80gb with 1 partition and a 250gb with 2 partitions. Is there software out there that will automatically backup certain folders from HD A to HD B on a regular basis? - nonokiaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have no idea how to use spinright, i mean, i do a long ass scan for data recovery... and it just shows me the results... no time did it ever search for files or ask me to restore data (if it found anything at all)
any help? my poor 320gig.. : - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 i have a colonics cleansing at least once a month. what kind of insane person wouldn't?
- Hardcase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1F:>dd if=/dev/sdX of=partbackup-sdX bs=512 count=1
'dd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
F:>
Rats. - scroundy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This article saved my life! Thanks.
- sniffer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The article is not mentioning the very best of the recovery software's. Easy Recovery Pro. It may be extremely expensive but after 7 years in the IT recovering hundreds of Hd's i found this to be the best of the kind.
Be assured, it will take it's time, but it work's 90% of the times. - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nice typo on Symantec. :P
- dhughes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 The ones I read don't.
- dhughes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 Sarcasm. Look it up.
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Flight Attendant - http://www.sristysaviation.com/main.html - BDSeo, on 12/22/2008, -0/+0very good article. Here is a complete data recovery guide http://www.a2zdatarecovery.com with a directory , http://dir.a2zdatarecovery.com, data recovery resources
- sabotank, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3so what sane luser doesn't back up data? i personally like to format/reinstall at least 2x a year.
- intense321, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I use acronis trueimage for my OS drive and AllwaySync for my other drives to accomplish this.
- MoPo299, on 02/20/2008, -0/+0Don't use any of these companies if you have a Mac HDD that needs to be opened! The only authorized data recovery company in the world that has offices outside the US is Ontrack Data Recovery.
- Grinning, on 08/18/2009, -0/+0Frankly, i've read better recovery guides here
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