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- pupa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14What kind of response is that? The communists are the government, and the government is oppressing the people. The people may or may not be communist, and I'm a large portion of the population certainly does not appreciate their own government, especially when it does things like this.
I hate the "communists" as much as the next guy, but you are an idiot. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Jeez, how did this get modded down? Since when is the digg crowd so pro-monopolistic telecom? What parent said was sad but true. The differences between what China is doing and what stupid ISPs are doing are indistinguishable except for who's doing it. Oh well, a tiered, censored, no-VoIP internet is the future, right? And from what I've seen thus far it'll happen with little protest from us, the so-called tech-savvy.
- TimeForGuinness, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Don't give AT&T any ideas...
- ANorton, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10The rank of who diggs the story is part of the whole grand algorithm I have noticed.
- erudite, on 10/12/2007, -12/+16At least they won't have to put up with their ISPs sneakily making VoIP crap to ptrotect their own interests!
- mpeters13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4LOL. Skype just went from 3 million users to 100. I can't believe I called this just last week. This is unfortunate though. Skype was an excellent means of meeting many nice people in China and Taiwan. =/
- meihan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I am in China talking on Skype now.
- ShadowRider, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Try typing "how to build a pipe bomb" in Google in good old America. FBI WATCH!
- cmer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10China is officially a crappy place to live in.
- glacierx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Are you using SkypeOut? The article mentioned only 'pc-to-phone' service will be blocked.
- dustonio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've been living in China for past year and have no real problems with Vonage. As a matter of fact I used it just an hour ago to call back to the States this morning so maybe the VOIP censorship would only affect Skype Out users.
I've grown used to not having access to some sites, but it is a pain when you really want to access something. I missed not having direct access to Wikipedia, which became blocked last fall, but then I found Gollum. http://gollum.easycp.de/en/
Sometimes a Corel Cache is able to get me access to blocked sites, but not always. And to date I haven't been able to access anything from some blogs like Blogspot. - ShadowRider, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just like Iraq!
- matthamilton23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I wonder what they classify as voip?
is it only services like vonage and skype or is it like voice communications on battlefield 2 - leonbev, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3They're not the only ones doing this. They've already outlawed Skype where I work, citing "privacy concerns". I just think that IT guys are annoyed that folks like Skype better than the in-house VOIP software they're working on.
- gflammer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11.6 million hits, in good old America.
- leonbev, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Heh... That comment is funny, considering that I'm one of the IT guys working on the VOIP project :)
- Claw787, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm Not surprised. Skype is banned in Dubai.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Portuguese / Brazilian : http://www.htk.com.br/noticia.php?noticia=317
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http://www.htk.com.br/ - xinul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1don't think for a second that will stop them... they have lobbyist right now trying to "influence$" a few key politicians to piggy back measures like this though on the backs of an unrelated bills. It's the American way
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Just use a VPN between yourself and someone who lives where they can do whatever you want.
Apps like Hamachi are free and work really well for that sort of thing. - cyrus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Yes... to maintain business. And not, for example, to maintain control of communications by keeping it all in an easily monitorable medium.
- DenZ88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Blocking VOIP can't be good for a developing China, but then again 2008 is only two years away... right?
From what I've seen, the mobile telecom networks are spreading like a wildfire in China. Anyone who would touch VOIP would probably already have a cell phone, so its not likely that the majority of the population would be concerned over the inability to communiciate computer->landline/cellular.
As long as China doesn't block skype/IM-based voice chat, it's not that big of a deal (yet) - st1gm4, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3This will not be the first time we see VOIP being blocked. ISP's want this service blocked...so will the major wireless providers since they will not want people using VOIP on their network as an alternative to using their services.
- liddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2To hell with choice and competition; its obvious it doesn't work.
- bluesapphire, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Man VoIP is one of the best things in telecommunications. It has helped so many individual owners, small and large businesses to implement affordable VoIP phone services. This has helped so many call centers reduce costs. I hope they recognize VoIP's ability to reduce costs. As long as Skype is there, that will be great!
http://www.ez-voip-phone-service.com/ - CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm sure it has nothing to do with security or SOX concerns. Nah. It's because they're jealous. No wonder you don't work in the IT department.
- jupo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How many western telcos are wishing they operated in China right now?
- BleedingHollow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Skype anyone?
- mcpaige, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1China has an "Internet Police" of ~~ 50,000 they are (trying to) controling it.
- B0jangles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Personally I found it funny that the Chinese "government" was allowing someone called 'Mr Wang' to make a statement to a newspaper.
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And of course VPNs add no latency to a call. Especially not one to China.
- mnewhook, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What a bunch of wankers all talking about nothing that most of you know absolutely nothing about.
I live in Shanghai, and skype & skypeout works just fine. In fact, the internet here is in general faster than it was back home in Canada -- and its significantly cheaper (25% of the price for a 2mbit line). - dumb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A side note: Most telephone users in China are using cellular phones (it has the world's largest cell phone market), because landlines are so incredibly expensive and it's too costly to drag copper line to a lot of the rural areas. In Taiwan there are more cell phones than people.
Slightly out of date article here:
http://news.com.com/Cell+phone+use+surges+in+China/2100-1039_3-5227836.html - marcee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I may be wrong, but the news I am reading only say that users of China Telecom Broadband service will find SkypeOut blocked. So it's the ISP who is doing the blocking, not the country (of course, this is hardly better, given that CT is the biggest bradband provider, but still...).
- zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What a cool country! Sewer rats for dinner and old fashioned tech for all!
- cazbar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yay! Now we have means to compare AT&T's activities to communism.
- Spazkake, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I can't imagine living in a place where you can't just type something in on google.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4It's this kind of government intervention in business that will keep China's economy from its full potential.
- florin, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5...and the telecom oligarhy in the US follows suit. ;-)
- itsonlyb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1i think it is specifically aimed at Skype but others may be affected.
- yichen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It is not Chinese government's fault. China Telecom and other big companies want block VOIP since they haven't find a way using it to increase their profit.
In fact, as a Chinese, I believe if Tom.com or Skype put this on China's court, maybe they will win.
And on the recent People's Parliament Meeting, they've already discussed how to control those big companies like United States did to those Trusts before.
So the fact is, it is those big companies kill VOIP, not Chinese Government. Government can't order many things right now as it did before. - meihan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No, I was using regular skype-to-skype.
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1China's government is evil, news at 11.
- longofest, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4thats just the thing though... its not like Kevin, Dan, Alex, or one of those TechTV guys dug this one yet... the algorithm is a mystery...
- redsrule2500, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I can't believe you actually think that way. Freedom =/= No Freedom.
- Lindquist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Articles like this remind me of how wonderful freedom is. You can say what you want about the American government, but that's the beauty of the 1st Amendement, you CAN say what you want about the American government.
- itsonlyb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0but blocked now means they'll be 2 years behind everyone else which makes it much harder to catch up with everyone else.
- elektricki, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Yeah and I'm moving there next month. That's just great.
- dPmunky, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2is anyone really surprised that china is doing this? ...honestly!?
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