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- dep01, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26It's listed as a "Just Launched" feature here:
http://mail.google.com/mail/help/about_whatsnew.html - fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27I'm going to say this again: Hotmail and Yahoo can only be accessed via POP with paid accounts.
You can digg me down again, but you'll still have to pay if you want POP access.
NOTE: Hotmail paid accounts are technically MSN accounts with a Hotmail address. - uglymike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18@strabes I just tried fetching my other Gmail email... it gave me an error saying you cannot fetch from other Gmail accounts. So it appears it will not work. Forwarding will accomplish the same thing however.
- tfedullo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?&answer=21288
how to set it up - edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Pity it's POP and not IMAP. I'd rather keep my mail on separate accounts on separate servers.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13yes it does apply the spam filter. i'm in the process of importing 2500+ msgs from 10 year old yahoo account. this is what i've learned:
1) all the messages have to be in the yahoo inbox. it won't fetch messages in folders.
2) they have to be marked "unread".
3) it fetches messages from the yahoo spam folder but then puts them into the gmail spam folder and catches the spam that yahoo routinely misses.
4) gmail will only fetch 200 msgs at a time from yahoo, so you have to keep "forcing" it to fetch by clicking "edit info" then "save changes" note: you don't have to make any changes, it just initiates a fetch after you save.
i didn't think we would be able to access yahoo via pop unless you have a paid account, but i have a free yahoo and my mail is importing in fine. the original sent date and headers are preserved for all msgs except just a few. - dep01, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Been tying in my other accounts. I'm curious, does anyone know if Gmail applies its spam filter to the email retrieved from these external accounts? It hasn't appeared to do so in my account...
- aeiou, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I think that is because Yahoo only supports POP access if you pay for it. The free yahoo accounts wont work with this, as far as I know. Same deal for hotmail.
- joewang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Waiting for IMAP now.. ;) -- then will GMail become perfect.
- sctechguy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Yahoo Mail, and Hotmail are IMAP based....that is to say, web-based email services. You're trying to add them to gmail as POP3 email services, which won't work.
- Bewildebeast, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@dep01 - I just hooked it up to a spam-filled account and it stuck it all straight in the spam folder, so it looks like it does.
- aeiou, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11You could just have your other gmail accounts forward the all of their mail to your main account.
- imjustabill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11@sockpuppets: You could already have gmail forward your email to another address, so you basically could before too
- fuzzmeister, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Frankly, if you are putting your mail on servers not completely under your control, you are giving up some degree of privacy, and you have to live with it. Complete information security is impossible.
- strabes, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@sockpuppets: it's POP, so yes.
- IvanB, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12"There was a problem connecting to mail.hotmail.com"
Any ideas why? - aeiou, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Thats why if you have some private information you need to send, use PGP. that goes for ANY email service/server.
- sideshowRAHEEM, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12"Server denied POP3 access for the given username and password."
When trying to add a yahoo account, username and pass are deffentaly correct. - webcrumb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"Hotmail and Yahoo can only be accessed via POP with paid accounts."
Unless you either have a non-US Yahoo! account. yahoo.co.uk addresses, for example, get free POP3 access.
You can also access webmail in Thunderbird with the Webmail extension: http://webmail.mozdev.org/ - fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Well, for starters:
It may not be incriminating to me, but what if it's incriminating to a friend or family member? What if it's a communication with a client that would otherwise be privileged? What if it has sensitive financial info that isn't illegal, but could be embarrassing? What if it's info I don't want other people to know about even if it's not any of the above?
Are you willing to ***** over a friend just so you can store your email forever?
And for the record: I am more afraid of Google abusing the email than the government. At least the government has an excuse. Google's already shown it can't be trusted with private info and it doesn't have any excuse. - klawz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Do you think Google will be the only one subpoenaed if you do something illegal? Any provider you use probably has a tape backup of your email, so don't think you can hide by not using google.
- rauz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Had this for a week or so and it works really well for me, nice feature. Next up is IMAP!
- OUChevelleSS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It's always like that with hotmail, I don't know why. In Outlook, the access site isn't even mail.hotmail.com, so I don't know.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7AOL and AIM mail are also IMAP based, so they won't work either
- phjr, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Sadly I'm unable to properly configure it. Probably they should polish this feature because it's widely usable.
- Eddm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I never use GMail for anything important, private or possibly incriminating. Everybody has a price and Google has shown that themselves many a time when they go shopping for internet fads. Does anyone ever wonder what could happen if Google was made an offer they couldn't refuse? Think of what could happen if the information they have fell into the wrong hands. (I'm not really a nutcase thinking every corporation is evil, but you know... It would be a pretty fun topic to debate)
- aeiou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yeah, and it works great, but this makes it possible to use that without the other end. The thing is, most of the time if your email supports POP, it probably supports forwarding, too, which is actually a bit more convenient, I think.
- ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7It's slow as hell... I've had it for a few weeks, and every time I want to check my mail, I have to tell Google to manually check it.
It's not uncommon for it to go 13+ hours without bothering to check my external POP account... which makes it almost useless. If it wasn't for Google's advance search system, I wouldn't bother at all. - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12Can I access other gmail accounts with it?
- jj2me, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@sctech
Don't know where you got the idea that Yahoo and Hotmail are IMAP. Not listed at imap.org: http://www.imap.org/products/showall.php
Also here: http://email.about.com/cs/freeemailreviews/tp/free_email.htm - Beautyon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I wonder; if millions of people start using gmail only to filter their pop accounts, wether this will this degrade the performance of gmails spam filtering?
When you use a single purpose gmail account to filter your pop email, you don't ever log into your gmail account and mark messages as spam. If gmail relys on individuals hand marking spams to any extent, and no one is looking at their inboxes, this could degrade the performance of the filtering if lots of people are using this feature.
I have thought for ages that there should be a plugin for Thunderbird that allows people to share their junk rules via a central service. This would increase the performance of spam filtering a great deal. - mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Maybe it's active on the US site. On the German googlemail.com, any such option is nowhere to be seen (yet). Oh well, as said above, mail forwarding works fine for me right now.
- NeutrinoQ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3you got your free yahoo account to work? Did you do anything special in the settings of either ur yahoo or gmail account? I tried it several times but no go... :(
- qwerty967, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6It's sad that the false information saying Hotmail and Yahoo are IMAP-based got 13 diggs, and the correct information that says it isn't is getting downvoted.
- rauz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Could it be because not all accounts allow for forwarding?
- Agent_M, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It just imported some of my old Y!Mail emails from way back in March of 2006!
No idea why it didn't go further back though.
EDIT: Whoa, forget that. I refreshed and the "new emails" number has climbed up by 20! It just takes time, apparently!
I LOVE you for this, Gmail! I have long been wanting to import my old emails! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4um, all free email services will store your email indefinitely, won't they?
- mozzep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2it was only enabled on some accounts previously, not every account.
- Sanchez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Worked fine with a squirrel mail account on shared hosting, loading it all now. Gmail, you are something beautiful.
- webcrumb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, I really can't understand why they don't just roll out US-locale stuff right into UK-locale. There's so little difference in language that one or two mistakes would go pretty much unnoticed. I think the biggest difference is the date being displayed the other (more logical ;) way round...
- themoose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It was in mine the other day. UK.
- LoganKriete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sorry, still not "completely active" - not in any of my accounts, even with refreshing my cache.
- Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4(Edit: At the time I read this, he was at +3. I was AFK for a while, though, and after posting I see now that he is at -3. This rant of mine is, therefore, pointless.)
"I have nothing to hide. I don't care if they are subpoenaed and turn over my pointless email conversations and order confirmations.
What are you so worried about?"
Wow! Wtf? Put this post into a submission about, say, NSA wiretapping and and it'd be buried into oblivion. But here, in the context of Google, it gets dugg up?
I like Google as much as the next guy, but... holy *****... how could you people possibly be so hypocritical? - markdr123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Ok, worked it out.
If you're in the UK (or other countries that don't have it enabled I guess), change your display language to English (US) and it'll magically become enabled. - Alfadir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Would be useful, if it worked..
- jayswain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2wezux, ur absolutely right. Labels and filters are more powerful then hotmail or yahoo's sweet "email block feature".
One thing I think it is missing, is being able to change how frequently it checks, when I look at the history, its about every 5 minutes.
Anybody know how to make it check faster? Maybe forwarding from the domain would be quicker? - spiffytech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When will Google propagate features like this to Google Apps for your Domain??? I'd like this, and I'd like to use the Gmail phone program with my GAFYD account...
- jwalk81980, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i get the same thing with the connection timing out with hotmail or aol. they may be getting slammed right now. i'm going to try again tomorrow.
- AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is a "just launched" feature in as much as Gmail is a "just launched" service.
- KHobbits, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1oh btw i managed to get it to check my gmail via pop, it simply took fooling gmails filter, on the first page enter a non gmail email, and then fill in your gmail details on the second page of the form. I find it works better than the forward feature, it seems to label the email better, for example email to a mailing list or bcc on the second email account wouldnt get the correct 'came from this email' label.
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