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- violentvinyl, on 10/12/2007, -5/+52"with the word "terrorist" rearing its ugly head."
Becasue if I was going to blow up a plane, I'd want to make sure I got a good seat first. - josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29With my luck I would do something this cool and then find myself in the customs breifing room getting someones latex'd hand up my fudge tunnel.
- thefish2010, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31Apparently, joel2600 does not fly southwest. You don't pay extra for an "A" - it just means that you checked in, whether online or in person, in the first 40 or so people. They get to board first, and since southwest has open seating, it's important.
- phreel0aderr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21I, for one, would not like to be the first one to find out when they change this system. If you really want to be in group A just check in online the day before. Its not that hard.
- Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Not that I condone this, but how is it STEALING?
What are you taking? a seat? that you will leave behind when the flight is done? - empeethree, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16someone is going to feel like a dumbass when they aren't allowed to board the plane cause they changed their ticket information.
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20aparently you've never flown southwest.
- Pile, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18#1 This is probably a capital crime under the USA Patriot Act.
#2 Dumbasses since the dawn of commercial aviation, have always jumped the line regardless of boarding order and there are numerous inconsiderate and underhanded methods of getting onto that flying tin can a little sooner.
Congrats!
http://BSAlert.com/ - kavery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Whoever wants to be in the guinea pigs for this little experiment raise their hands?
Have fun. The last thing I need on my summer vacation is to be escorted by TSA and FBI agents from the terminal while everyone wonders what that crazy American was up to. I'd just assume relax on the beach then in an interrogation room.
The A, B, C system works, it's just that humans, by nature, have to screw one another and claw each other to get to the top. - Qenton, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Well it is line cutting. So I guess you are stealing time and happiness from someone else.
But I got tired of the cattle call system anyway, so I usually don't fly Southwest. - crawf061, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1124 hours ahead of time online checkin becomes available. Most people completely disregard this information. I usually check in about 6 hours before hand and _almost_ always get in the "A" group
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Yeah, but I have to wonder if SWA is going to start getting a little suspicious when EVERYONE lines up when group "A" is called...
- neverender, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10From Southwest's site:
" Any change made to this reservation by you or any other person will void this boarding pass."
http://www.southwest.com/help/online_checkin.html - mernest, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Obviously you don't like to know what you are talking about when you post a reply joel. There is no price difference between groups.
- JoeLeo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14It's still fraud - there's clearly an intention to deceive.
- athlonmj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11This is great except:
if you're printing out your boarding pass online, chances are you checked-in early enough to get an A pass.
With most flights, most people check in at the airport, so you're usually guaranteed an A if you check-in before you go.
Also, all boarding passes have a number on the bottom corner showing what number you were when you checked-in. You would need to somehow doctor that too. - Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I wondered if this would be possible since I recently flew on SWA.
I'll bet that SWA will soon discover this happening and incorporate the "A" "B" or "C" into the bar-code somehow. They announce the fact that if you are in the wrong line you will be made to go to the end of the correct line you are to be in.
It amazed me that people would actually stand in line for over an hour and a half just to be the first "B" or "C" person. It makes me want to fly on another airline but maybe that's just me. - wirah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I've never flown southwest. This is certainly a sexy little trick though. But hmm what happens if 'A' gets too crowded and becomes the new 'B'.
- ElectricGrandpa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10It sounds like if you're booking online(in order to do this trick) you're probably going to be in the A group anyway...
- duke, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I bet within 72 hours of it hitting digg's front page.
- TehDoctor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Sit by the emergency exit on the left side.... plenty of legroom there
- Pattyo13, on 05/14/2009, -4/+11it's called southwest. take a look at their business model. they offer cheap fares - take it or leave it, they don't care. if you want leg room and customer service, yadda yadda, go fly elsewhere
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9how long until that info IS barcoded along with everything else?
- uptown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Digg needs a new bury option ... "Do not pass go, do not collect $200"
- btdgreg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"If you're flying Southwest, the order on which you board the plane is the least of your problems.
A friend of mine who is a commercial pilot said he will never fly Southwest. Their standards for hiring pilots are apparently really bad ..."
And yet, they have the best safety record of any major carrier. Go figure.
(I think your friend's data is biased and probably flawed. I seriously doubt they hire pilots over the phone. I have a friend who's a graduate of the Air Force Academy and a pilot at Southwest.) - mexter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Whoever does this is a snake... on a plane.
- stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7> "I hate flying southwest ..."
Then don't fly Southwest. Nobody is forcing you to. Sheesh, must everyone rush to play the victim card? Why not just go all the way and sue them? - AdamWeeden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why do some people seem to always go by the mantra "cheat, and if you get caught, lie." Why can't some people do the moral thing and just make due with what you have. A crappy seat on a plane is not the end of the world.
- tsunamisteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Cool, but the time you spend changing the HTML is about how long you'll spend waiting if you're a B Group.
- Archimboldo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Sadly, you are not atypical in wanting to cheat the system, but this still sucks.
- enclave2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is just like cutting in line. And cutting is a dick move.
I fly southwest all the time. Southwest makes flying so easy. You can print out your ticket, at home, 24 hours before your flight. The sooner you print out your ticket, the more likely you will be in group A. If you take to long to print it, and get group b, or c (though I've never been on a flight that even included a group c), then just get in line and sit down.
For those that don't know groups a,b,c and just the order in which you are seated. Southwest doesn't assign seats. So you show up with a bording pass that says group a, for example, and you get to stand in the line that goes on the place first. Then you sit any where you want on that plane. The process repeats for b and c.
What I never understood about flying is that people always want to be the first on so they can get that perfect seat up front. I've seen people waiting in the group a line, before the check-in people even showed up. Who cares where you sit?! The plane is going to the same spot for everyone and eventually, you'll all get off.
I usually sit in the back and just watch every one stand and try to rush each other out of the door when we finally land. - theoallardyce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7This is computer hacking and because this involves doing something on or related to the Internet it will be a federal crime involving a computer network. Next is modifying a ticket for personal gain - that's fraud right there. Interfering with a commercial aircraft. Boarding an aircraft without permission. Lying to airport or security staff. Causing disruption to a commercial service. Causing an obstruction and tampering with a security credential. Anything involving a plane will probably come under the PATRIOT act and will of course be a federal crime and since you've tampered with security credentials whats to say you haven't tampered with anything else? Ooops you're now unidentified which makes you a non-uniformed enemy combatant and you are now eligible to wear a bright orange jump suit and get a free flight to Cuba.
How do you like being in the A group now you terrorist scum? - AdamWeeden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@WorldBuilder
while I agree this is a waste of a digg article, you seem to show some ignorance in regards to SouthWest's mode of passenger placement. No assigned seats exist on SW (at least the last time I or anyone I knew flew on it). Boarding group A goes in first and gets whatever seats they want, then B, etc. - crawf061, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6i've never been on a plane that "waited for late people", barring the exception that someone's connecting flight was delayed a couple of minutes, so they still had time to sprint across the terminal to board the next plane. They used to give boarding passes at the terminal but then Al Gore invented the internet and everyone realized it was so much easier.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7By changing it to an A will simply mean that you get to sit by the window. Southwest's new theory for boarding and de-planing is being tested to help with turnaround time. Less time on the ground and more time in the air.
They plan to board all window seats first and then aisle seats last.
Google it or check this one story about it:
http://www.vindy.com/content/business_tech/294364681888453.php - knightcrawler75, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Cool hack. But what is the big deal... Instead of sitting in the terminal your sitting on the plane.
- iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The problem with that is with most families or groups. They sit together, e.g. a b c or whatever.. so are you going to let your kid go board first w/o you because he/she has a window seat and you have an isle? I think not. Like communism, this looks great on paper.
- phatsharpie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"All this boils down to is boarding people who have seats in the BACK first..."
I thought Southwest has open seating. I haven't flown them in years, but has that policy changed? - HabboX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I would not risk this. It could get you up to 5 years in prison. You see, the boarding pass is required at the security checkpoint. This means the boarding pass is a security document. Modifying or forging a boarding pass could be a violation of US CODE TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 > § 1001 which says, ..........(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. - Jeffrey903, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Why doesn't Southwest eliminate the A, B, and C groups by check-in time and whoever gets to the airport first gets to board first (maybe they give out passes at the terminal). That way everybody should want to get there early and Southwest shouldn't even have to think about waiting for late people because most (or at least more) people would probably get there earlier.
- kavery, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Since Southwest is a discount airline, you think you'll get a discount fine as well?
- violentvinyl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4http://www.seatguru.com/
- Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9its just boarding priority, Kinda like giving yourself first boarding privileges, and on an airline that supports the cattle call style of boarding, getting into the A group is preferred...
There are no security implications in this. - bheron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I fly Southwest all the time. Their policy on this is that, if you or someone else modifies your boarding pass in any way, then it's void. This is on the ticket when you print it out, so you have been warned.
I don't know about you, but it seems rather foolish to risk loosing money by being thrown off the flight because of something stupid like this, especially when you can simply check in on-line EARLY and get an "A" placement.
Please don't forge your Southwest airline tickets. It's rude, and it can cost you money. :)
Later, GJC - japostoles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@WorldBuilder,
None of the Southwest flights have assigned seating. I think you are mistaken. San Diego is currently running a test of the assigned seating model, but every other airport is currently using open seating.
More info: http://www.southwest.com/san-boarding/index.html - crash331, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5It's a pretty big deal, especially if you fly with a family. We had C tickets when we went to Vegas, and I got stuck by some fat dude and didn't get a window seat. It was a big deal then because I was 13 and my parents were like a mile away and it was my first time ever flying. That trip sucked.
We got there earlier for the return trip and we all get to sit together and I got a window seat. - kida001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is a great idea, and can save some time. Not sure how the airlines would look at this because you are altering a boarding pass even if it is something as small as a boarding time. Just beware, its not worth missing your flight because your being interrogated ;)
- ilLH, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Armageddon.
- swhitt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4do you have any idea how southwest works? there are no assigned seats. it's first come first serve. so you want to be in the first group so you get to select your seat.
- Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3SWA has NEVER had assigned seats that I know of. I've been flying on them off and on for over 15 years.
I'm just glad they got rid of the plastic numbered boarding pass thingies. -
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