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- dyvbond, on 10/12/2007, -1/+117Site is really slow, but here's the contents of the site-
Packet Garden captures information about how you use the internet and uses this stored information to grow a private world you can later explore.
To do this, Packet Garden takes note of all the servers you visit, their geographical location and the kinds of data you access. Uploads make hills and downloads valleys, their location determined by numbers taken from internet address itself. The size of each hill or valley is based on how much data is sent or received. Plants are also grown for each protocol detected by the software; if you visit a website, an 'HTTP plant' is grown. If you share some files via eMule, a 'Peer to Peer plant' is grown, and so on.
None of this information is made public or shared in any way, instead it's used to grow a personal landscape, a kind of 'walk-in graph' uniquely shaped by the way you use the internet. With each day of network activity a new world can be generated, each of which are stored as tiny files for you to browse, compare and visit as time goes by. You can think of packet gardens as pages from a network diary.
Packet Garden is an artwork commissioned by Arnolfini. It is developed using open source software components and can be freely downloaded. You can read more about Packet Garden here ( http://www.selectparks.net/~julian/pg/pmwiki.php?n=Main.About )
Download URL- http://www.selectparks.net/~julian/pg/pmwiki.php?n=PG.Install
*sorry for comment hijacking* - aRgusChung, on 10/12/2007, -21/+125You know you're running Linux when an application running properly out of the box is a pleasant surprise.
*braces for digg down* - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -2/+79I'm sorry, but there's no reason to act like this person is mad -
people should always check the source, and they should ask developers if they can't understand the source.
If you're not aware that anyone credible has checked the program, then it's a security risk until someone has.
Creating a culture where people assume open source code is OK without checking it, is creating **an attack path beyond the dreams
of windows worm and malware writers**.
With a bad program nobody checked, you could root *MILLIONS* of linux machines in 24 hours, before it was realised. PEOPLE MUST CHECK.
If you guys ridiculing the question are programmers, shame on you.
@RyomaNagare:
You are 100% right to raise concerns if you can't check the source yourself. You keep doing that. - paulmdx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+65"just what the title says"
Nice, the site goes down and people are lefting guessing/Googling about what the hell the page is about. Here's an example of why people should write decent descriptions. - BionicBeefpile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+59Mountains are uploads, valleys are downloads. I'm betting it's more like a porn Grand Canyon, bringing new meaning to the phrase
- macneib, on 10/12/2007, -1/+56Ummm great... can you say porn mountain?
- RyomaNagare, on 10/12/2007, -4/+55This sounds really cool, but i ahve some privacy worries, can anyone confirm the software does not call home, with all the data it indexes?
- pufuwozu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+50Ubuntu 6.10
http://selectparks.net/~julian/pg/dists/linux/ubuntu/edgy/packetgarden_1.0pre5.deb
Debian
http://selectparks.net/~julian/pg/dists/linux/debian/unstable/packetgarden_1.0pre5.deb
Linux
http://selectparks.net/~julian/pg/dists/packetgarden_pre5_all.tar.gz
Windows XP/2000
http://selectparks.net/~julian/pg/dists/win32/packetgarden_pre5_win32.zip
Mac OS X
http://selectparks.net/~julian/pg/dists/osx/packetgarden_pre5_osx.mpkg.zip - Rooster99, on 10/12/2007, -8/+40WTF? All I said was that this sounded cool and that I was going to try it out! Jesus Christ! Some people around here are ***** *****!
And by the way, I was reffering to the actual program, not the title - But you obviously need that to spelled out to you cause you seem to me like a dribbling retard. Have a nice day - daboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31which means that it does, in fact, blend!
- Claymore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27too bad their isn't a way to digg up the article but digg down the submitter. Not sure what that would accomplish but it would be satisfying to me...
- jotux, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18This looks so much like darwinia!
- Pepper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16And finally, Debian!
http://www.peppery9.net/packetgarden/packetgarden_1.0pre5.debian.deb
I don't know what the difference between the Ubuntu and Debian packages is. If theres any more you want me to try and get, reply ;)
In all:
Windows: http://www.peppery9.net/packetgarden/packetgarden_pre5_win32.zip
Linux: http://www.peppery9.net/packetgarden/packetgarden_pre5_all.tar.gz
OS X: http://www.peppery9.net/packetgarden/packetgarden_pre5_osx.mpkg.zip (Warning: 45mb)
Ubuntu: http://www.peppery9.net/packetgarden/packetgarden_1.0pre5.deb
Debian: http://www.peppery9.net/packetgarden/packetgarden_1.0pre5.debian.deb - SoundJudgment, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21Gives new meaning to the phrase, "Mountain of p0rn."
- Pepper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Ubuntu: http://www.peppery9.net/packetgarden/packetgarden_1.0pre5.deb
- cinnix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15@drybond - Thanks for that, sounds very interesting... I'll try it out once the server revives.
I guess a lot of people are going to have gargantuous "Digg Mountains" :) - Pepper, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16OS X: http://www.peppery9.net/packetgarden/packetgarden_pre5_osx.mpkg.zip
(Warning: 44mb! Shouldn't be slow though) - Battlecry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Hmm.. Can't get it to capture packets on my windows system. Anyone else having that problem?
- Pepper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13^ Windows
Linux: http://www.peppery9.net/packetgarden/packetgarden_pre5_all.tar.gz
Working on getting the rest, hopefully should be up soon :) - jotux, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14I grabbed the windows client before the site went down.
http://www.box.net/public/ps4ylm3b0z - hellotyler, on 10/12/2007, -14/+25now thats awesome
- Pepper, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12http://www.peppery9.net/packetgarden/packetgarden_pre5_win32.zip
- rompom7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10This has to be the most ambiguous 'title says it all' stories that has ever been on digg.
How hard is it to copy and paste the first few lines from that site? It would give a better idea on what the hell you're on about. - Lodarage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Hmm, doesn't working here (WinXP SP2). Once I press the start capture button, the following info appears on the text console. Any ideas?
GeoIP module not found. there will be no country codes generated for captured IP's
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "pg_packet.py", line 229, in ?
File "pg_packet.py", line 146, in capture
File "pcap.pyx", line 171, in pcap.pcap.__init__
OSError - gommle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I guess Wireshark and Ettercap are trojans too.
- richbradshaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7yep... Doesn't work does it....
- liquidcoooled, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7BlackAdder,
I couldn't have put it better myself :)
As for privacy concerns, if this program is converting IP addresses to physical locations then the cleanest accurate implementation needs to contact a central server (phone home). This is called Geolocation (ask google or wikipedia for more information on how this works).
However, in this case looking at the code it uses a less accurate *local* version of this geolocation database.
This means that the addresses may not be totally accurately located, but gives enough information without giving your privacy away :)
It does *NOT* contact the internet to ask where an IP address is located, and simply watches your home connections.
Hope this helps. - directedition, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I've been using L/*nix for seven years and I'm still surprised when I come across a package that doesn't require an all-night-long dependency hunt.
- Grimdotdotdot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Jotux has mirrored a copy, although his mirror is running pretty slow now as well =]
http://www.box.net/public/ps4ylm3b0z - trylleklovn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Just install Python.. >_>
Anyway, won't work on intel macs, the website says so :/ And I tried it. - deathw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6yep same here, can't get it to capture also
- BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9....pop goes the website.
catch:
http://www.duggmirror.com - jstohler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Maybe release as a firefox addon?
- lowerlogic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Sweet! finally my own personal internets!
- Jjcd7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yeah, you did.
- tont0r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"just what the title says"
Please learn to write a description. - zaren, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Install dies on osx:
"You cannot install Packet Garden on this volume. pyobjc requires System Python 2.5 to install."
Since I just found out my kids have the day off from school, I'm not going to troubleshoot this error - I'm going back to bed :p Probably just have to grab Python and install it...
"Python 2.5 for Macintosh OS X -- this is a universal installer that runs native on both PPC and Intel Macs."
Okay, so I lied - downloading, and *then* I'm going back to bed, since this'll probably mean a reboot after install. Nice logo for python, btw...
Okay, so I lied again... didn't need a reboot, and Packet Garden is installing.
Aaaaaand it's running and capturing packets.
So, there you go, osx kids. Download python 2.5 and this should install for ya. - deathw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@ordminute
Worked perfect, thank you for that link!!!! now I just have one more problem! lol
"GeoIP module not found. there will be no country codes generated for captured IP's"
I'm gonna start doin a search on the GeoIP.... see what I can turn up.. - Hydraulix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Ah, I thought this was a program that sits on a web server, and builds a "world" from the different IP addresses that access your site.
Hmm, maybe I should get working on that. - BryanJK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3...does the same for me, at least I'm not alone:(
time to boot into Fedora! - MtnXfreerider, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Mirror to Windows XP 32bit Download: the sites is going ~50kbs for me.. so this should be faster.
http://freeridevideo.com/x/packetgarden_pre5_win32.zip
might be nice to have since the site seems to go in and out.. - pamphile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The mirror is online... http://www.acmetutorials.com/download-packet-garden
- ordminute, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3People that can't capture traffic on Windows (OSError) should install WinPcap first. worked here!
http://www.winpcap.org/
Also 64bit Windows won't work at all. Says so on the install page. - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Opening the source, one of the first things you notice is that this program issues SIGKILLs by *process name* from an external shell to clean up its own capture processes. On the face of it this looks very like a Bad Thing.
This does not elicit great confidence - I wonder why the programmer would do this? - mcraigw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3
Coral Cache of it seems to work: http://packetgarden.com.nyud.net:8080/ - haooken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah, I'm getting the same thing.
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3you should
- Wireddd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4anyone grab the linux tar.gz?
- leftfield, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thanks a ton for mentioning winpcap. I tried for a while this morning to get it working but gave up, now it's doing it's thing :)
Looks like the GeoIP thing may be only for *nix,
"Known bugs:
Geographical location code doesn't work (compile) on a non UNIX system. No fix forseen
Needs a general speedup.
Shadow mode causes crash on NVIDIA cards. No fix forseen yet. " - spvaland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Digg should allow people to write alternative descriptions for the stories, and let users vote on those alternate descriptions. And there should be some formula so that if the current description is dugg down by a certain margin, as this story's description should be, a new description would take its place. Alternative descriptions could be another tab just like "comments" and "who dugg or blogged this?". It would give users a chance to spend even more time on here and rack up some great ad revenue from added digg surfing.
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