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- ElBeh, on 09/26/2008, -10/+187The speeds of all browsers have progressed so much that they no longer seem to be an issue. They're so close to each other, that it's features that really decides the browser for me. And there Firefox wins (obviously for extensions).
- dumaitbjimmy, on 09/27/2008, -12/+138Ad. Block. Plus.
- jbklego, on 09/27/2008, -3/+65THIS ***** JUST GOT REAL.
- specialK16, on 09/27/2008, -0/+56In my personal experience, Opera and Chrome have the speed that Firefox doesn't have. Chrome cold start is almost instantanteous, and on the Core 2 Duo I have at work it just flies.
Firefox just feels slow compared to it. But still Firefox has the addons. - serenityflexed, on 09/27/2008, -3/+57He never said if he enabled Firefox-3.1's TraceMonkey, as it's off by default.
- inactive, on 09/27/2008, -4/+47Yeah, memory consumed by 8 tabs. That's realistic.
Why don't you open series of 20 tabs with different sites, close them and repeat 10 times?
See how browsers deal with memory fragmentation. - TimmyOToole, on 09/27/2008, -20/+48Nice logos, I like that one with the orange colored fox in it.
- Chazz271, on 09/27/2008, -2/+27What is TraceMonkey? Never heard of it.
- renegadeafk, on 09/27/2008, -3/+28Those cold warm start results look ***** up to me. they all do start up faste to me but chrome is bar far the fastest, it launches instantaneously.
- sinkingshriek, on 09/27/2008, -16/+39of all them..my least fav is Safari..
- inactive, on 09/27/2008, -4/+24bogus test... if you're gonna have a beta browsers in the test, they should have included a pure webkit build...
- jedisushi, on 09/26/2008, -7/+25I'm a big fan of the Webkit nightlies myself. Best browser for me, hands down.
- ZeMeisterstuck, on 09/27/2008, -21/+39Opera has a url list filter! A.k.a. the same thing Ad blocker plus does.
Hell, I copied and pasted adblocker plus lists into Opera.
Add-ons? Opera has EVERYTHING built in.
Torrent downloading
Mouse Gestures
Speed dial
Magic Wand (password storing)
Skins
Panels
Notes
Userjs
Firefox is primitive. - FyberOptic, on 09/27/2008, -2/+20Remember, that's a barebones Firefox. Hardly anyone runs a bare Firefox these days, because pretty much the whole point in having it is extensions. With extensions, its memory usage increases and speed decreases, sometimes dramatically. So I'd consider all the other browsers' results to be accurate except for Firefox, where I'd probably select the runner-up in the categories it was ahead on as the victor.
- dsmx, on 09/27/2008, -0/+18Why is it that all the logo's are round?
- inactive, on 09/27/2008, -0/+17IIRC that's FF's new javascript engine.
- xXMetalJesusXx, on 09/27/2008, -4/+21The windows version is quite the POS.
- Armor1901, on 09/27/2008, -4/+18IE in last place most of the time. Shocking.
/sarcasm
Seriously though, with the developers that MS has access to, you'd think they'd be able to make IE a much better browser than it is. - lilmoder, on 09/27/2008, -3/+17Opera seems VERY good...
- fryguy1013, on 09/27/2008, -0/+12Java shouldn't be sped up by Chrome. What they did was added a JIT to JavaSCRIPT and sped up interactions between the javaSCRIPT and the DOM (visual elements on the web page).
- heavensblade, on 09/27/2008, -1/+13Click F12 in Opera and you can turn off:
Animated images
Sound
Java
Plugins
Javascript
Cookies
Referer info
So the options are there and they're easy to use. - specialK16, on 09/27/2008, -1/+13what?
- inactive, on 09/27/2008, -1/+13Crack kills.
- wastedpanda, on 09/27/2008, -1/+12I think he's talking about drugs. Just back away slowly....
- HonoredMule, on 09/27/2008, -1/+11I really don't have to agree. Extensibility is the perfect accommodation for individuality and uniqueness. We don't need to all fit in the same shape of hole, nor should we have to agree on what constitutes good 'proper' functionality or browser behavior. With extensions, we don't, and instead find a closer fit to our own personal needs. It really has nothing to do with the broader topic of open standards or a 'user friendly' internet.
And that's pretty unfair, equating obscure to 'elite'. Good extensions aren't obscure because of some elitist guarding of information, but simply because they're not popular. That doesn't mean they aren't valuable to the people who know about and use them, and if the usefulness were more universal, popularity arises. What better way could there possibly be to promote broadly-valuable software without screwing over minority interests? - inactive, on 09/27/2008, -2/+11Except if you actually read the article you would see that it wasn't Firefox FTW, nor was it end of story.
Go home troll. - Kenelm, on 09/27/2008, -2/+11I'm surprised to see IE8 doing so well.
- BrendanSheehan, on 09/27/2008, -3/+12I agree, but I'm more of a simplicity and minimal guy so I choose Safari (for Mac). Each to their own.
- radu79, on 09/27/2008, -1/+10Why would someone use the noscript FF extension (unles sif maybe they want to test websites)?
Most pages that have scripts actually require them.
And speaking of, Opera has one of the most useful things ever, the ability to disable scripts on a page after the first JS dialog pops up. So this way you can escape those pages that have an infinite loop of dialogues. In FF, you can't even close the god damn window if you have a dialog present. - mahadiga, on 09/27/2008, -2/+111. Download it from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nig ...
2. about:config
3. set javascript.options.jit.chrome to true
4. set javascript.options.jit.content to true - rkiga, on 09/27/2008, -1/+10opera is much better straight out-of-the-box than any other browser. but opera widgets just plain suck. they don't really integrate into opera, they just kinda sit on top like a separate program. the inability to really customize other browsers is why FF is the most popular non-IE browser. there aren't really many things i would need in opera to switch back to it:
an answers.com-like ability to alt-click on any word anywhere and get a definition of it in a nice little popup that goes away after i click; bookmark syncing (it's coming soon); and a GOOD damn spellcheck like FF has. why does spellchecking in Opera sucks so much?
lots of people use one browser as the workhorse, and FF for webdev, so i wouldn't really care if browsers ever get better webdev tools, as long as firebug still works. - cl2yp71c, on 09/27/2008, -4/+13Give the other browsers all the capability Opera has, THEN test the speeds and see who comes out on top.
- specialK16, on 09/27/2008, -0/+9How do you enable it?
- AirRaven, on 09/28/2008, -0/+8Ah, the "speed" in this case refers to the speed of rendering the page, rather than the speed of data transfer.
That should remain constant no matter what browser you use. - yogiincork, on 09/27/2008, -2/+10Really? Sorry, didn't know that (yet).
- Pixelpaws, on 09/27/2008, -0/+7Thunderbird is the name of their e-mail program. It was never the name of a browser.
- Rudegar, on 09/27/2008, -4/+11safari is not great but it's better the IE
- WiZZLa, on 09/27/2008, -1/+8Right, it's biased towards Opera, which only "won" one of the tests...
- Virgule, on 09/27/2008, -0/+7I believe its the fact the the damn thing invited itself into the people's boxes.
I, for one, think its a sweet piece on Mac OS but is no fit on Windows. A square peg round hole kind of relations..
On my Linux box its Opera from A to Z. On the PC its Firefox forever and on the Mac its Safari. "Period"
I buried my war hammer and have been browsing happily ever since :P - inactive, on 09/28/2008, -0/+7The url filter is not the cool thing, the content blocker which uses the url filter is the real ad-block+ killer...
And if you say "You can't customize Opera" you haven't truely used Opera... as in: you haven't right clicked on the toolbar and clicked "Customize..." or used any of the skins, or added a bookmarklet, a user script or a user style
@rkiga there is an ability to mark a word, right click and click "Dictionary", "Encyclopedia", "Translate", "Search" or "Search with..." (that is, using one of your search engine shortcuts created by right clicking on a search field on a site and selected "create search")
And Opera Link is working fine with Bookmark, Speed Dial, Personal Bar, Notes, Typed History, and search shortcuts syncing.
AAAaaand, Dragonfly (the dev tools), while a bit confusing at first, is more powerful than i have found Firebug to be. Especially if you combine it with the different modes like outline... - radu79, on 09/27/2008, -3/+10Not sure if you realize, but Opera has that functionality built in by default :)
Personally, I never really used many of FFs extenions. I tried them, but I didn't find any extension really useful for web surfing, and Opera has all the things I need, plus you can customize stuff more (such as placing the tab bar on the bottom or sides). - inactive, on 09/27/2008, -0/+7Care to explain that a little more?
- gamepr0, on 09/27/2008, -0/+7somedy who dares to say he was wrong? first person i've seen doing that on the internet for months, thanks for letting me know there's hope.
- t3hmyth, on 09/27/2008, -0/+6Have you ever used Opera?
- ZeMeisterstuck, on 09/27/2008, -6/+12NO need for add-ons in opera.
- gamepr0, on 09/27/2008, -0/+6uhm..safari is great but it just needs good plugins.
extensions are the reason i will stick to firefox even if it underperforms. - scottstevenson, on 09/27/2008, -1/+7It's both. The "WebKit" name comes from the rendering engine, but there's also a "WebKit browser", which is effectively a nightly build of Safari.
- inactive, on 09/27/2008, -2/+8Yeah you'd think they could do the same with their Zune as well. They should have been able to absolutely crush the iPod.
Microsoft is living proof that money isn't always enough to create great products (not that they haven't ever done that, these are just 2 examples). - Kerrigore, on 09/27/2008, -2/+7There's still some websites that don't work properly (or in some cases, at all) with anything but IE... businesses who have remote access functionality for their employees via the web seem to be the worst offenders for this, because they are often still using 10+-year-old software that was made before the FireFox renaissance .
- Louis11, on 09/27/2008, -1/+6Opera looks more like an oval to me.
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