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- Xiata, on 10/12/2007, -23/+53Oh shut up linux dork. *NO ONE* cares about your uptime.
21 days isn't much, I had Vista running 8 weeks without a single reboot before I decided to remove my XP partition (thus forcing me to reboot as I had to merge a few partitions that were in use).
This version of windows is far more stable than XP despite its numerous not-fixed-in-beta bugs (referring to general codec badness, and other random application crashes). Nothing that has taken my system down or caused significant annoyance.
Seriously, troll elsewhere. - Doghound, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24No, Xiata got it right... but he went about saying it wrong. Screw uptime in general. Who cares about how long you can keep your PC on. If you aren't running critical applications on it (ie web, ftp, etc.), then it shouldn't even be on that long; you are just waisting energy!
I wonder wormhole, Xiata, and baalzebub, how many of those 278, 8 weeks, and 21 (or however long your top time is) days was your computer actually being used? - MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19And most of them are 'Manual' by default, only being activated as needed....
- saska, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Exercise great caution when fiddling with services in a new operating system. If you insist on screwing around with them, I recommend that you use msconfig (start > search > msconfig > enter) to use selective startup to disable them for your next startup. Reboot, leave the msconfig dialog that runs at startup in the background, and try to work with your system. If it's unstable, just tell msconfig to boot normally next time and you won't be any worse for the wear.
As an alternative to the shotgun approach of just disabling services, I'd recommend using Group Policy (start > search > gpedit.msc > enter) to fine-tune how these different services are used. If you're joined to a domain, your domain Group Policies may override some of your local GP settings. There is often much greater detail in the descriptions for services in GP, so you have a much better idea of whether you want to disable them from within that interface. - Xiata, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19@Doghound
Everyday, quite extensively. I've been testing applications with Vista for quite some time now. However, as you said, uptime is unimportant, as it is very unimportant outside of the server scene. Vista has not asked me very often to restart after updates were applied which is an improvement over XP (which asked for a reboot almost every patch tuesday).
One thing I have to laugh about is people who compare uptime like it was an e-penis measurement tool: all it means is you are probably easier to exploit than someone who actually keeps the kernel up to date. And don't even give me the KEXEC argument, how many of you actually use it? Very few I am expecting.
However, this is digg. Linux fanboys are all going to call me a microsoft shill, which I am very much not. I just use what works for me. Linux works as my server- NOT my desktop.
Also-- Vista is only 14 weeks old, linux fanboy arguments about uptime is quite frankly stupid.
edit: 14 weeks acording to CD image. - vistaguru, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19Come on now, this ins't BV... but it does appear to have some useful information. i'll check it out later.
- NateB2, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20Really, there is no need to "tweak" these settings. Most of them are set to manual, only being activated as needed. The performance gains are probably minimal at most. Some of them, like the backup service, the app compatibility service, and the computer browser could cause problems if disabled. Also, if using Vista Ultimate, Vista Business, or Vista Enterprise *do not* disable the volume shadow copy service. That service is responsible for the "Restore Previous Versions" capability in Vista.
This is a good site for learning what the services do in Vista, but my recommendation is to leave them alone. - wormhole, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12eh, not all of them, for sure.
but it does run my mpi programming environment for classwork, a web server, mysql, and a forum or two when I'm not actively working on it.
I get what you're saying, I guess I just tried to point out the absurdity in an uptime contest and ended up making it look like I was flexing my epeen, heh. - dissident, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12be advised that the "workstation" service can cause 30-60 second lags during startup. The internet still works with it disabled, but the system is faster.
- Doghound, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@mleh
I think someone failed to read the rest of the string of posts. ;) - NateB2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@Ultima
No, it is different. With the "Restore Previous Versions" capability, you can right-click any file, and see previous versions of the file; for example, lets say you wrote a Word document on Tuesday, revised it on Wednesday, and finished it on Thursday. When you open the "Restore Previous Versions" dialog, it will show you your document that you wrote on Tuesday, and another on Wednesday. You can copy the previous version of the file to a specified location or restore the current version of the file to the previous version. This is great if you accidentally saved over a document you want to keep, or accidentally deleted a file. The best part of this is that the restore functionality does not take up any space on your HD, the previous versions are stored in the free space on your HD, and are removed when you use the space. - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11The funny thing with lists like these is that "tweaked settings" is according to one guy's OS usage patterns. Keep in mind that these lists can render parts of your system unusable and cause some unpredictable problems if you don't share his exact usage patterns.
The list would only be safe in case Microsoft had some of those services be completely useless, and although that's what Vista opponents usually claim, the truth just isn't that simple.
While it's good he has commentary for the services, I have to laugh at his "tweaked setting" for "DNS client" is "disable"... :-p - Xiata, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Uhhh. No. Can't be any worse off.
The io scheduler for Vista has been greatly improved, improving system performance between apps (no one application can hijack the entire hard drive). Further, it usually doesn't allow IO to make video playback impossible (yes, there is some frame drops, but it is not as bad as XP when copying the same crap back and forth off the drive that has the video).
Applications draw faster/generally run faster on the desktop: benefit of compositing, even compiz/beryl fans can recognize this.
Hard drive NCQ actually works improving hard drive access. - fiver22, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12If this were BV I might give it more creedence -even though BV has been wrong on a couple of his "safe" calls.
- max420, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7This isn't blackviper.... he sort of vanished from the internet...
does anyone know what ever happened to him... and his cats? - Kwipper, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Dude! Get the ***** out of here! ***** Linux Trolls! I swear to god they piss me off!
Keep your ***** OS out of our threads! Thank you. - jwaters, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I would give more credence to this site if there were associated benchmarks for pre and post tweaking. Without that, it's terribly subjective.
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Btw, for those who didn't get the example above (one out of many), 100% uncached DNS queries will actually slow down your overall browsing experience, and hardly a "tweak". Sure, if that's your intentions, it is excellent advice.
- bias, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9But if your OS blow your mind every time you minimize/maximize, move your wiggly windows or in every other ways, I'm sure you mind will get really damn tired after working all day long. Something nice to look at but not overly fancy is pretty enough.
- xdjyoshx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This guide is basically one person reciting the description of the service and giving their thought of it. If he REALLY doesn't know how remote registry is useful he shouldn't be using windows, let alone writing a "services" guide to pretend he knows what he's talking about.
- mrhoaf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I have found over the years that following these "tweak" guides usually results in a less-stable system... I gave up on them a couple years ago and my systems have run better ever since.
- UltimaNut, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8"Also, if using Vista Ultimate, Vista Business, or Vista Enterprise *do not* disable the volume shadow copy service. That service is responsible for the "Restore Previous Versions" capability in Vista."
If I dont want to use this why cant I disable it? Isnt this just a different name for System Resore in XP, which I shut off the first chance I get. - subgeniusd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Check out MajorGeeks. They retain a cache of his original website. Cool *****.
- EGOvoruhk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4baalzebub: was i trolling? nope
Ummmm, how about yes? You're posting about Linux when the subject is about Windows. You didn't ask a question, so you probably just came here in attempts to brag - Kwipper, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Yes, but linux can't run Direct X 10 games, now can it? In fact, the only games I see for Linux are games that came out 2 to 3 years before the PC had it.
When your Linux community can think of a way to resolve this issue, I might switch. Until that happens, stay the ***** out of our threads and keep your "pro-linux" comments off of here. - TomP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3mirror please :(
http://www.speedyvista.com/reg/VistaTweaked.reg - subgeniusd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I patiently worked through the ElderGeek XP service mods and noticed a marked improvement with no stability issues of any kind. More stable in fact. Nearly as stable as my Linux boxes. (OS agnostic here).
- ShiggyPop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Dunno what happened to him. Here is a link if you want, or if anyone else wants, of his page for XP Services:
http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm - brandonhines, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Does anyone know what happened to BlkViper? Did the Jack in the Box burger thing become too much to deal with? :-P
Thanks for the link. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Any tweakers using Vista mind giving the rest of us an idea of the resource usage difference from a standard service configuration compared to the "Safe" configuration?
- mrrockford, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1blackviper is back online - www.blackviper.com
- sid0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Another one is SuperFetch. SuperFetch is solely responsible for the 0-10 meg RAM free on all Vista computers.
- gadlaw, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Dugg on account of the BlackViper reference. I lost that link or he lost his site. Great site, great info. Is he anywhere around any longer?
- bmartin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'll happily stay the hell out of your "threads" when Digg puts a category in for Windows ***** so I don't have to see it anymore. Seriously, we've got a category for Apple and one for *nix. I don't consider anything MS does to be innovative or breaking. There's nothing in Aero that should be in tech news or any other category; people that don't want to read about ***** software shouldn't have to deal with it right in their face.
- BigT4187, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@coasters2K .......... noob
- Larke2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1what, no UPS? or at the very least something with a hand crank?
slacker. - tsbardella, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have had mine up with a licence server error box - the serial is not good any more -for the last two months
- roflwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Meh... if you click the service name link, it shows all like 100 services its needed for... lol
- JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I have an OpenBSD machine serving smtp-auth pops http silc and ssh that's been up for over a year... OH!
- code_of_life, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7http://duggmirror.com/software/BlackViper_returns_Windows_Vista_Services_breakdown/
- mattmcm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@sailor:
Read the rest of the comments to discover why no-one gives a damn about what you said. - Ramtech, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1one more for the bookmarks :)
i may need it later.. - streaky, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Vista could have 130 thousand services and it'd make no difference, so what's with the description?
- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@Phocion55 and @akira117
Amen brother! - rmcc8, on 09/21/2008, -0/+0That's why you need registry cleaner on your computer. I use registry cleaners to all my computers.
http://registry-cleaners-soft.com/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm sorry but this services 'breakdown' is lame. Most of the descriptions are mostly inaccurate, vague or naive. For example "COM+ - this is used by BITS". Yeah and a few other thousand parts of Windows.
Dugg down. - Robozilla, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Not that this is the place to ask...
But, I kind of hate Vista. I have to use Internet Explorer becuase Firefox is running reeeeaaally slowly on my Vista machine. Has anyone else had this problem? - Sonic_Molson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2146 days uptime. Used about 15 hours every day. Web server. Gaming. Developing. Surfing. WinXP.
- jreno3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I would be happy if there was a "tweak" for vista to support LEAP and CHAPv1 VPN. I'm dead in the water at work without it.
- philipz78, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Is there a missing column? Home Premium doesn't seem to be listed.
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