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- ScytheNoire, on 11/13/2007, -2/+31can't stop the P2P technology evolution. join or face extinction.
- razishaban, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Do they block Canada yet?
- Erazrhead, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10This is good stuff. The more available (and popular) BT becomes, the harder it will be for the "old guard" to eradicate and prop up their dying business model. Embrace the future.
- Ethelstan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9
The problem and sad truth about torrent is that everybody knows to download - but not to upload.
There is a significance ratio drop from people who purely leech -> people who leech but upload downloaded files to certain ratios -> people who leech and upload unique files.
Inevitably, I believe that only less than 30% of true bit-torrent users are uploading unique files and contributing truly to the sharing community. Imagine if we could increase this figure to 70%???..... how vastly absurd it would become to go to a CD store and buy something XD - jackyyll, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Imagine if we didn't have to live in Hong Kong to get good internet speeds for cheap...
- drtyfrnk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7ba dum ching!
- shabumike, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Dugg 'cause you can't stop the future from coming.
- method3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4We're not going to see great uploads until people have access to better broadband (not capped in any way). Where I live the only option is DSL with ***** down speeds and average up speed or Comcast cable which is great for downloading but has ***** capped uploading. I can't wait until fiber comes...
- sloncek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Since this is great news for beginners, I just hope they will realize they still have to leave their clients open in order to seed and not just flood the sites with torrents with 0 seeds.
- meepus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4By getting a *bleeped* job or learning to make money from something art-related other than recordings. Before easier distribution, how EVER did artists survive? *horror* The profession must have just come into existence with the formation of the recording industry. There were never successful artists before that. *eyes roll*
Musicians could really take a cue from painters. Do music shows that cost money to attend (lol). Auction off an original recording of a song to any rich fan who wants it, (along with redistribution rights). Give interviews, do endorsements, teach classes... Wow, there's a hell of a lot more to the profession than meets the two second attention span, isn't there? Sure, it's not all good for the ego of the apathetic superstar, but it's just fine for the career musician.
People aren't stupid. We know that the stuff the RIAA churns out is industrial product and therefore about as valuable as the cost of its production and subsequent distribution. They're going to have to accept that technology is eliminating their distribution costs, lowing their production costs, and turning their product into less of a luxury.
There is absolutely no reason the RIAA should be entitled to as much of our money as they want simply because their product was once a luxury. I am not going to pay a man for a gallon of milk as if he milked, chilled, and hand-delivered it himself if he's only a grocer. The RIAA are now grocers attempting to live off the backs of artists who no longer need their expensive services.
Artists now can start their own labels and grow successful selling directly to fans. Look at Imogen Heap if you don't believe me. Look at Radiohead selling their new album for what fans think its worth. Look at Trent Reznor giving away recordings of his new album at his concerts. Do you think these people can't feed themselves without record sales? Heap almost certainly took a commission for her contribution to the Shrek soundtrack. That made money in theatres, not as much from the soundtrack recordings. Speaking of which, theatres aren't exactly out of business in spite of nearly ubiquitous internet and P2P sharing. Neither is television.
Major label artists' songs appear frequently on television. In order to boost a show's rating with its demographic, it is benefited by musical guests that appeal to the demographic. Licensing these songs for a network television show costs money that can, amazingly, go directly into an artist's pocket.
Have a bit of an economic imagination. - BigBrother87, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Not true. I leave my uploads going 24/7 and cap it at 30K, and my upload ratio is 1.4. It's not hard to do, just inconvenient.
- TomFrost, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"how vastly absurd it would become to go to a CD store and buy something XD"
Actually -- I think that kind of contradicts what you're saying! So many of us don't go to an actual store and buy a real CD or DVD *now*, and that's the problem with having so few people who actually upload unique files. If we evened out that ratio, it would be MORE likely for people to pick up an honest-to-goodness CD or DVD, just so they can share! - sloncek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Isn't that what they said when BetaMax came out?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Sometimes, I can't upload. My Nat and ***** are open, but there are no peers and ONLY seeds. But when I can, I go to 2.0 or even 3.0. BTW, I use the latest Transmission. Help?
- badave, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2If we can't stop from coming, the artists will be able to feed on our coming.
Now I feel dirty. I'm going to go take a shower. - Genma, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2no I believe we can sue technology out of existence, so I refuse.
- Shinnokxz, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Sounds like it's going to form into its own Limewire/Morpheous/KaZaa sesspool here pretty soon. Public trackers will never be the same again. Joy.
- sloncek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well said!
- method3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1In my own experience, seeding on private trackers to maintain a > 2 ratio takes a very long time (over 100gb down at least makes this very difficult to do). Besides, my point still stands, people don't seed things because it's inconvenient, therefore until it because easier you're not going to see people seed that much. Also, the OP's point that I was responding was the fact that less than 30% of users upload unique files (actually I'm sure it's less than that). This isn't going to change until it because much easier to seed large files.
- blackbrutha, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1sweet. p2p technology is unstoppable. Power to the people, ***** THE MAN.
- Ethelstan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Totally agree... people seem to give up at that point if they couldnt find the files -- or even if they go buy the CD, they wont share anyway.
So what is wrong with these ppl? - Spliced88, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I wonder what would happen if people in the U.S. actually got parallel internet connections.
It's frustrating to download at 2MB/s and upload at 50kB/s =( - oqtr, on 03/07/2008, -0/+0http://www.oqtr.com/
- SniperZero, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2This just lets the MPAA and RIAA make uploading fake torrents easier >_
- wandoswiki, on 01/01/2008, -0/+0Dugg too cause you can't stop the future!
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iyinet webmaster forumu 2008 seo yarışması - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1yeah i want a random website logging my IP and indexing all the movies and music i dl....
- ngnboone, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0So in the future that we can't stop from coming, how do artists feed themselves?
- frederoil, on 10/10/2007, -9/+2dugg down for not being porn.
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