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- eaton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Fantastico was my first experience with a number of web apps. It's how I found out about Drupal -- and also how I accidentally destroyed my first Drupal site. (And my first TikiWiki, for that matter.) It's a great way to become familiar with various web apps, but very very bad once you've decided and you want to set up your *real* site.
- sime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Fantastico is a great way to explore some apps. But do yourself a favor. When you've decided what you like, go and install the latest, bug-free *secure* version from the application's website!
- gunnarlangemark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Fantastico is fantastic. It is good to get a fast preview of certain scripts - on your own site. You can go to Opensourcecms for sure, and get a preview of a few standard installs. But with Fantastico you have an install on your own site.
Only thing is. It can lure some people into believing that they have a production site up and running in 5 minutes. That's not the case of course. If you mean business with Drupal, you better take care of your installation process yourself.
I keep meeting these fantastico installs - and many of them are old and insecure. So are some of my "handmade". But at least I know it and have decided it can be so. With fantastico - most people don't even know something is missing. - chubbymidget, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Nose meet Knife.....
If it wasn't for Fantastico I'd not tried a number of great applications.
I bet if Drupal asked they'd be removed from the Fantastico db, and replaced with something else. I'm sure there's a waiting list. - acidhash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Fantastico is great, insecure, but great. It's the fastest way to try out a new CMS without having to run through a setup process.
- samikhan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Generalized script installers a bad idea in general, period.
- RevMark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I've got over 25 sites installed with Fantasico. Many of these sites have multiple apps installed by Fantastico. I have yet to have a problem. This includes updates to apps. My only beef is they take too long to post updates.
- spanner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I have to also give the thumbs up to fantastico. If it wasn't for them I wouldn't have been able to try out different programs and experiment.
Sure the versions may be old, but when you get some skills you can easily upgrade. - JEmerson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have to say it. There's one thing less secure and buggy than a fantastico install - an install by a user who has no idea what they're doing. Most of the people on shared servers putting up fantastico phpbb and joomla installs should 'not' be ssh'ing into their accounts if at all possible to avoid.
In any case, remember the real scare....people are still using frontpage. - Lacero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wow that sucks. I just installed Drupal via Fantastico just 10 minutes ago, before reading this story.
: / - rickvug, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3BTW, web-masters should always stay up-to-date on the security of the open source tools they use. Most project have RSS feeds or mailing lists for this. Here's the link for Drupal: http://drupal.org/security
- drmike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Gotta admit that I just install the programs myself when my clients ask about them. Upgrade them as well.
- rickvug, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I couldn't agree more. Script installers like Fantastico offer inferior installers that are often out of date and thus pose security risks. Moreover, they create horrible database names. If I am building a site on drupal, I do not want my username and database to be called "drupal". Ease of use has it's place but one shouldn't sacrifice security and stability to get there.
- josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I thought this was about an item on TACO BELL's value menu?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2DUGG fo sho.
I was just about to install Drupal via Fantastico tonight after work. Talk about Digg giving you the story you need... - ashift81382, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's the same w/ Yahoo Web Hosting's installers... they only offer very outdated versions... better to just install it manually
- johnsee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You can't upgrade them yourself. Talk to your webhost though. If they're using cPanel... it really is just a one-click process for them to do it! If they won't, I think you need a new host!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I had to support the Fantastico software at my previous job. The software is awful. The developers don't know what the hell they're doing and the software is buggy and insecure. The only answer I ever received from Fantastico "support" when I was having problems with an installation was: reinstall Fantastico and it should fix it.
- Brent2, on 04/18/2009, -0/+1Find a host that uses a stable auto-installer. I personally love Simple Scripts (http://www.simplescripts.com/script_list) but I'm sure there are others out there.
- spyres, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2When I used to be part of a support team for a wildly popular php script, we specifically would not support fantastico installs because they were so often out of date of just totally futzed up.
Sometimes it isn't smart to put "one click install" functionality in the hands of tyros who can't be bothered to learn about a script and update it properly. - opennet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OBEY ./what about openinstaller? i installed hypercube for a web lady who could not connect to the site for two days because of a router config problem. 30 emails later i don't get paid since it is beta exploration time. Well I guess so. time to do some custom scripts.sql
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1what is the best alternative to fantastico?
- RootWebGod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you find yourself with a host that does not maintain their servers and keep up-to-date software including Apache, PHP, MySQL, and especially the OS itself, then try to find a new host as soon as possible. The least they could do is keep the most recent version for the release branch they offer. If it were me, I would politely ask the host to upgrade and if they do not or refuse to do so simply let them know you will find a new service provider. Personally, I decided to start hosting myself some years ago as to avoid this type of problem altogether; you might even consider this option if it fits within your budget. :)
- lynder, on 04/06/2008, -0/+1Its so easy to install stuff! Dont use fantastico
- neofactor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1People should 1st play with:
http://opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=132
One-Click-Installs are great to get a preview... and play... but if you cannot install the system on your own... you should not use it IMHO. - logic11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, I have to admit to using a Fantastico install for a client...
well, I guess to be a client they would have had to be paying me, but as they are friends (sort of anyway) they were expecting a high end site for free. I did a Joomla install, built a quicky template and threw in some stock components.
Feel a bit guilty about it, but hey, if I did the full meal deal (like I do for paying clients) it would have been probably twenty grand (right now I am developing web apps for one of the largest brokers in the world). - pairanoyd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I have several websites that I manage with Cpanel and Fantastico.
What annoys me is that everything is so outdated.
The PHP is outdated, as is MySQL and PhpBB and phpnuke and postnuke. I also have a wiki that I can't upgrade because of the old PHP and old mysql the hosting company provides.
Is there anyway I can upgrade those myself or am I stuck with what they supply? I managed to install the real wikipedia software (an old version) on my own, as it's not included with cpanel/fantastico.
I'm trying to upgrade the phpbb software on my own outside of cpanel but not having much luck yet.
Why can't I upgrade the php and mysql too?? - Sartori, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Drupal can't even keep their own software & documentation correct and valid (it claims to support versions of PostgreSQL that it doesn't, and the installation doesn't catch it if you're a novice web type person like me).
Perhaps the thing most worthy of learning here is that novices really shouldn't be installing most web apps? - RootWebGod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Even if the version that Fantastico includes is out of date, it is possible to manually upgrade and even "tell" Fantastico that you're using a newer version; it is usually only one file that needs to be updated after a manual upgrade.
For those of you that actually use Fantastico, once you complete a manual upgrade, simply edit the "fantversion.php" text file with the new version number of the script. :) - twoeyes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2As a webhost owner I recently ditched fantastico, oh lordy the amount of sites that were hacked
- josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sounds like something to ponder...
- RootWebGod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The best alternative to a 3rd party script installer such as Fantastico is a manual install performed by yourself. This way you know exactly what is going on and don't have to depend on anything else nor anybody else to do the work for you; the practice should make you more capable to diagnose problems later too. ;)
- existx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1CPanel + Fantastico + Security.. you've got to be kidding me.
- kerberon, on 02/17/2009, -1/+1Fantastico is great http://www.ratethehosting.com/fantastico
- mmaf, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Fantastico has been great for me. This sounds like Drupal only problem.
- staan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3The thing that makes running a secure Drupal site the hardest is Drupal.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1LOL, welcome to two years ago? Cpanel's apps are so open to be hacked.
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