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- Four20, on 10/23/2007, -2/+402#14 - Nero
I'm sorry, I don't need a 200MB+ cd/dvd burner - airquotes, on 10/23/2007, -15/+304Digg.com
- IEatHamburgers, on 10/23/2007, -4/+166"In the case of iTunes 7, bloat isn't the problem."
So why the hell does it take so much juice to run? - acceleration, on 10/13/2007, -0/+139http://www.pcworld.com/printable/article/id,137703 ...
(all on the one page) - rohell, on 10/14/2007, -25/+157I think they should include Windows (Windows XP > Windows Vista)
- chris9902, on 10/23/2007, -4/+126They need another section for every anti-virus software package available.
- DeFex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+122So they missed out Norton antivirus. probably the most bloated POS which is preinstalled on more PCs than anything. a long time ago it was actually good. Uninstalling it and putting in one of the free ones, fixes more complaints than almost anything else.
- mookiemookie, on 10/11/2007, -4/+122It sucked to begin with.
- poppieprong, on 10/30/2007, -2/+115They should have included Real Player.
- TheFinaleofSeem, on 10/23/2007, -1/+112Everything made by Norton in the past decade or so should be on that list, but they don't even mention Norton. I used to swear by Norton. Now I usually swear at Norton. I remember way back when Norton Disk Doctor for Mac was actually useful at version 5. Every version after that I used somehow screwed up my drive at some point. And need I mention CrashCauser and FileHoser? Not to mention their pain-in-the-ass crapola on the Windows side, like their AV software shoving itself to the foreground all the damn time, or perhaps Ghost throwing generic errors for no discernable reason.
- Torx, on 10/14/2007, -0/+92Nero should seriously be number 1. Its peaked into being an install dvd, WHY!?!?!!??
- colouredCoder, on 10/23/2007, -0/+71I agree with you about winamp 3.x, it was horrible to use and buggy. But winamp 5.x is pretty cool. And you can use the classic winamp skin if you wanna go old school.
- Schmapdi, on 10/23/2007, -4/+71I used to use ICQ a few years ago until it became the bloated advertising machine it is now. I also use winamp 2.76 as my mp3 player of choice. I tried 3.xx once and it was atrocious. Small simple apps for life!
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -7/+71Guessing you haven't heard of AVG Free?
- VargVikernes, on 10/14/2007, -3/+63No *****. Any digg page with 200+ comments locks up Firefox entirely for about 10 secs. And this is supposed to be a site ran by technology enthusiasts...
- kingkilr, on 10/14/2007, -5/+60Every single thing on this list should have been Acrobat Reader, Foxit for life!
- poppieprong, on 10/10/2007, -4/+57And take so long to load!
- thefinger, on 10/14/2007, -7/+56That's right, OpenOffice isn't bloated. Nor is it happening to Firefox. Nope. No bloat here. Nope.
- teeheehee, on 10/10/2007, -3/+50For brevity.
Instant Messaging Programs:
AOL Instant Messenger (AIM)
ICQ
Windows Messenger, MSN Messenger, Windows Live Messenger
Media Players:
Windows Media Player
MusicMatch Jukebox (Now Yahoo Music Jukebox)
Winamp
iTunes
QuickTime Player
Image and Video Software:
iMovie '08 (for the Mac)
Corel Paint Shop Pro
ACDSee
And Two More Previous Favorites:
Adobe Reader
Eudora - raynar, on 10/10/2007, -3/+50Because iTunes started out bloated, it was never slim to begin with.
- Eldoo77, on 10/14/2007, -2/+46 I see what you did there... /clicks "Thumbs Up"
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -16/+56Vista. My god... I just wanted a fast, stable and secure copy of XP out of the box. Microsoft so over-reached with Vista!
- sequethin, on 10/10/2007, -4/+43itunes 7 also includes tons of crap for a phone that I will most likely NEVER own. (and blue coconut doesn't work anymore but I can't really *complain* about that...)
- LimeParrot, on 10/14/2007, -2/+41Get Kaspersky.
Norton, however, deserves to be dumped into a black hole along with its creators... - teqonix, on 10/10/2007, -1/+38Right on with Paint Shop Pro. PSP7 is awesome because it doesn't have any bloat to it, but 8 and 9 are nothing but terrible, slow photoshop clones.
Also, OldVersion.com for the win. - jayhawk88, on 10/13/2007, -1/+38You know this is a good point. Definition of irony: PC World talking about things that "Used to be great but now suck".
- sadilak, on 11/08/2007, -2/+39Have you seen the process manager when ITunes is running. You have ITunes.Exe, ITunesHelper.exe, QTTask.exe, IPodService.exe and ApplemobileDevice.exe. Pretty retarded of apple to have so many processes running.
- timla, on 10/13/2007, -0/+34I think this just begins to highlight a bigger issue with software. Most software ends up with the most usable feature set within the first couple of versions. At that point the software is "finished" and other then bug fixes and such, does not require any more features. But the company cannot survive with out the revenue stream, so it keeps adding. Shortly thereafter they "jump the shark" and it is downhill form there.
- Chicken, on 10/23/2007, -1/+34For winamp people can download the lite version of winamp and it takes up half as much memory and is simple to use.
- EvanVolm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+31Sorry, but Skype really should be on that list. It was a pretty good program, but it seems with every new version more and more bugs arise.
- doshindude, on 10/10/2007, -17/+48'cuz itunes sucks?
- chilekillr, on 10/13/2007, -1/+32And it is so ***** difficult to get off of your computer.
- IEatHamburgers, on 10/10/2007, -5/+36What are you running, a Pentium II? I don't see how XP is slow.
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -13/+44Too bad they didn't list the open source alternatives to each and every one of these programs. Feature creep and bloat is the entire reason I switched to using open source apps instead of freeware/shareware/paid apps.
- p0tent1al, on 10/14/2007, -1/+32Digg just got ***** pwned
- Motocompo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+29People still read PC World?
- schoate09, on 10/10/2007, -3/+28Click one button during installation, and there's no adware problem. Buried for being an idiot.
- kadesoto, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25AIMen to this article!
- slugicide, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22I'm a Linux guy now, but I have to say I was perfectly happy with Windows 2000 for a long time.
- synagence, on 10/10/2007, -2/+24iTunes might be bad (getting worse) with its memory usage, mines at 122Mb.
But Firefox is just as bad (if not worse) at memory usage ... its currently got this page open and using 119mb!!! its a webbrowser using over 100mb of ram ... come on mozilla, its a nice app but make it quicker and less memory hungry ... even IE opens much quicker - lcmatt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22Try NOD32, small and one of the best AV's on the market.
- raitchison, on 10/14/2007, -0/+21Actually I disagree completely, XP wasn't _that_different than 2000. Now NT 4.0 to 2000 is another story entirely.
- TGMD, on 10/10/2007, -3/+24WMP 11 is an excellent media player, but the charge still does stand. It was once a lightweight/skeleton media player, not anymore (for better or worse).
Some people just want their media player to just play the files they want and nothing else, like VLC or media player classic.
With that aside WMP11 is, IMO, the best media player out there if you have a large library (especially video) - inactive, on 11/08/2007, -1/+21Don't forget AppleMobileDeviceService.exe and AppleMobileDeviceHelper.exe
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+25Nope, and apparently the idiots digging you down haven't either.
AVG is prob the least intrusive and very fast operating scanner I've ever seen. - p0tent1al, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20Who uses Real Player anymore to even care about it?
- jbmcb, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21I second Four20's vote for Nero, 5 was the last, mostly bloat-free version. Yeah, you can do a stripped-down install, but, aside from recode, everything else it installs is completely useless.
PowerArchiver - The last free version was very buggy, but super small, sleek and fast. Probably the best archiver ever, now it's got tons of crap I'll never use
If you used to like ACDSee when it was small and fast, just use Irfanview, it's ACDSee Classic's long lost, much thinner brother.
Why didn't they just add every media player to the list of media players? They are all guilty of bloat, except maybe QuickTime which is guilty of a different crime. I downloaded RealPlayer so I can watch streaming realvideo clips, not to play MP3's or play video games.
In addition to the suggestion for Norton above, I'd add McAfee. Ever since McAfee 3 they've just added more and more crap that I don't need. McAfee 3 was beautiful, it quietly sat in the background and looked for viruses. You could even QUIT the scanner, and it unloaded itself from memory and went away. Now it's hooked in permanently, loading up firewalls and spam stoppers and loads of other junk I never use. Now I just never use McAfee. - rejoined, on 10/13/2007, -1/+19@Airquotes, Dude, you're so effing right!! I used to be on Digg everyday for 2-3 hours. Now it's a hassle. I check the comment pages very rarely, because as *Varg* pointed out, it totally locks up the laptop for some time. And when I feel like checking the comments, I keep on pushing the stop button on the browser to prevent loading the whole page. That way I see only probably a half page of comments, but it prevents the browser locking up..which is so frustrating. Also, I can't digg up or digg down comments, or reply to comments with the page being half-loaded, but whatever. I guess that's what they want...not interacting that is.
Only in rare cases, when an article interests me, like this one for example... I do let the comments page fully load...because sometimes its well worth it. But most of the times, I usually just check the articles submitted, and totally avoid the comment section altogether. - OrangeCrush, on 10/14/2007, -0/+18Wholeheartedly agree! Nero 5 was probably the last vaguely tolerable version. CDBurner XP's one of my current lightweight favorites for windows:
http://cdburnerxp.se/ - Blandyman, on 10/10/2007, -5/+23doodlebumm:
Why do you insist on calling it Windoze? Does that make you feel better? -
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