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- savocado, on 10/09/2008, -11/+52DRM is evil.
- StigNordas, on 10/09/2008, -5/+36The more BBC the better!
- SolYurick, on 10/09/2008, -6/+33>> "For our Mac and Linux users, don't despair: we have another release coming up very soon, aimed at improving your BBC iPlayer options - stay tuned for updates..." Rose adds.
Can't wait. - franklymister, on 10/10/2008, -2/+21http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/where_to_get_iplayer
"Right now, BBC iPlayer is available on PC, Mac & Linux computers, Apple iPhone & iPod Touch, Nokia N96, Creative Zen, Philips GoGear, Sony Walkman X Series, Nintendo Wii, NetGear EVA8000, Linksys DMA2200 and Virgin Media" - brc2003, on 10/10/2008, -0/+16For the questions above it already works on iphone/itouch...and has done for months...go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer and it with automatically detect iphone.
Flash streaming will work on any device that can play flash.
The reason they are using WMplayer DRM is because this is only for those devices that support nothing but WMPlayer DRM...the BBC is not moving to this format for all iplayer content.
If you are not in the UK you obviously cannot get any iPlayer content because it is paid for by British people via the TV License fees, rather than advertising. - memsom, on 10/10/2008, -1/+17Feel free to pay for a license to watch our TV.. (because, you do realise that we pay for the BBC whether we watch it or not in the UK, right? And this is on top of Cable or Sattelite) Obviously, at the moment you'd have to live here, but in the future, who knows?! :)
- lovecss, on 10/10/2008, -2/+17It's available for the iPhone. You may get interested now.
- franklymister, on 10/10/2008, -3/+17http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/where_to_get_iplayer
"Right now, BBC iPlayer is available on PC, Mac & Linux computers, Apple iPhone & iPod Touch, Nokia N96, Creative Zen, Philips GoGear, Sony Walkman X Series, Nintendo Wii, NetGear EVA8000, Linksys DMA2200 and Virgin Media" - memsom, on 10/10/2008, -0/+14No Zune in the UK, so why would they bother supporting it?
- memsom, on 10/10/2008, -2/+15Are you in America? That would probably be the issue. Content is region locked. You open up Hulu, we'll let you watch iPlayer, k?
- chazuk, on 10/10/2008, -2/+14It's better than their past support of Realplayer.....
- chicaneuk, on 10/10/2008, -1/+12Yep - all the TV programs are encoded in a format supported by QuickTime and the entire site works brilliantly on the iPhone.
Maybe you should have tried it first, and gotten your facts straight ;) - inactive, on 10/10/2008, -5/+16The content is free for a limited time only. DRM is only way to deliver this.
- alkajazz, on 10/10/2008, -1/+11If you're in the UK
- Kozy, on 10/10/2008, -2/+11It sounds like they're exploring other avenues in terms of DRM, but Microsoft was the best fit at the time. The BBC tend to be very forward thinking, but when creating a service such as this with a myriad of rights holders and competition rules, using open formats wouldn't have been as straightforward as people seem to think
"These Nokia devices support Open Mobile Alliance (OMA) DRM - so, to make BBC iPlayer content available on those devices, we've built an OMA DRM service. Accordingly, we've now added OMA to the list of rights protection technologies supported by the BBC iPlayer, which should allow us to, in due course and where technically feasible, make BBC iPlayer programmes available on a whole new class of mobile phones and other devices that support the OMA content protection standard." - radio4fan, on 10/10/2008, -0/+9"You do not need a television licence to watch programmes on the current version of BBC iPlayer."
http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/about_i ... - Harrison88, on 10/10/2008, -0/+8It works with the iPhone. You have to have a wifi connections though. The rights-protected bit refers to saving the content to watch offline.
- memsom, on 10/10/2008, -2/+9It's free - you just download it.
- inactive, on 10/10/2008, -0/+7Yes it works - you just can't download the content like you can on Windows.
- savocado, on 10/10/2008, -3/+9Would be rly nice if you could just download the shows in a XviD format, no DRM no hassle.
- jamesdew, on 10/10/2008, -1/+7But the BBC own their radio shows. They do not own all the TV shows they broadcast.
- hiro, on 10/10/2008, -2/+8Funny, it's working fine on mine!
- savocado, on 10/10/2008, -3/+9You dont have to pay TV licence in order to watch shows on iPlayer.
- socialexpert, on 10/09/2008, -6/+12this looks like a good service for most TV lovers..
- plingboot, on 10/10/2008, -0/+5"If you own a TV in the UK, yes you do.
If you don't own a TV, WTF do you want to watch TV online?"
Er. Obvious answer... to avoid paying the TV licence. - WestEast, on 10/10/2008, -0/+5Amen to that, iPlayer has been a daily part of life for me now, Real player would make this a nightmare!
- chazuk, on 10/10/2008, -0/+5Seems to be working on mine Renzo. It wont work over O2's 3G network which is ***** tho.
I used to watch iPlayer fine on my iPod touch tethered via wifi from my N95 with T-Mobile. - EvanLugh, on 10/10/2008, -0/+5renzodesign i told you what the problem was, if you can't be bothered to read it, it's your own fault.
- mrhahn, on 10/10/2008, -0/+5"If you are not in the UK you obviously cannot get any iPlayer content because it is paid for by British people via the TV License fees, rather than advertising."
But I watch/listen to plenty of iPlayer content, and I don't pay any license fee (I'm in the UK, but don't own a TV). Not complaining, but still... - drunkenoaf, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4Odd that. The iPhone player on the iPhone/ iPod Touch streams it all as H264, and the radio as MP3.
- Kozy, on 10/10/2008, -2/+6"The astute reader would have noticed our making BBC iPlayer programmes available on Sony, Philips, Nokia and other devices... but what about Apple?
What's common to all the devices listed above is that they support "open" rights protection technologies, where "open" means that any content owner or distributor, such as the BBC, is able to readily license the DRM technologies used by those devices and is able to create content that can be played back on those devices.
Unfortunately, Apple keeps its DRM technology close to its chest and has so far not licensed that technology to third parties. This means that as of today, it's not technically possible for us to make rights-protected BBC iPlayer programmes available for download from the bbc.co.uk/iplayer website in a format compatible with Apple devices. That's a major missing piece for us and a disappointment for Apple device owners, so please know that this has our full attention." - paulsmith288, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4+1 for the use of spunk bubble
- WillieWendel, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4since when is seven mobile devices "an impressively wide range"?
- weiran, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4As jamesdew says they don't own the rights to many TV shows broadcast, and they also publish some of the on DVD. DRM is a necessary, but in this case workable evil seeing as we're not paying anything for it.
- Angostura, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4That'll be why I can use it on my Mac and iPlayer. The download system is Windows only. The streaming system works widely. The streaming system is more popular even among Windows users.
- Angostura, on 10/10/2008, -1/+5Actually there are quite a few radio shows which are NOT available as podcasts, only as listen again - presumably for the same reasons.
Personally, as a license -payer, I think the BBC does a spiffy job for the money. - TheSnuffster, on 10/10/2008, -0/+4"WTF do you want to watch TV online?"
If you're a student, saving on some cash. - zhooshy, on 10/10/2008, -2/+6They manage to have podcasts of their radio shows in mp3 format, also free (at the point of delivery) and with a licence restriction on retention beyond a short period. Magically this is free of DRM.
If they want to they could put their own programmes up DRM free, maybe doing what they do now and restricting downloads to the UK i.e. the people who have already paid for the programmes to be made. - renzodesign, on 10/10/2008, -1/+4Thanks for letting me know.
I've been called a retard for asking :
Thanks again.
Renzo - zhooshy, on 10/10/2008, -4/+7Bet it uses some proprietary tech like Flash again. It's hard to tell that the guy running this used to be employed by Microsoft, isn't it.
- Harrison88, on 10/10/2008, -3/+6Bookmarked. Works on my Macbook Pro with Firefox and my iPhone.
- seltaeb4, on 10/10/2008, -1/+4Zune?!
They'll do 8-track first. Larger installed base. - richardiscool, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3Looks like dTunes is ***** it up.
- Joest23, on 10/10/2008, -7/+10***** yes. Now I can watch Top Gear from anywhere.
- plkrtn, on 10/11/2008, -0/+3Yes, because WE PAY FOR THIS BY HAVING A LICENSE.
You give us free access to Hulu.com we'll give you free access to iPlayer.
Until they put in a charging or advertising system for non-UK viewers, and sort out the rights issues (why would you want Heroes streaming when its 10 days later than you get to see it), you'll just have to wait. Much like we have to wait till rights issues are sorted out to get access to Hulu.com - EvanLugh, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3its becuse u got something off cydia.. remove it or replace the quicktime files. it will either be installus or a safari download plugin that you got.
EDIT: I know this; same happened to me. - renzodesign, on 10/10/2008, -1/+4What gen?
I'm 3G 16GB
I can't access it :S - renzodesign, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3Nope UK
I pay my tv license :P - MikeSobe, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3Page was blocked at work due to 'Media Streaming' thanks for the list. I wonder if they are going to come out with a Blackberry version any time soon.
- Timmmm, on 10/10/2008, -0/+3Yes you can. Just owning a TV doesn't mean you need a TV licence. My family had a TV & VCR with no TV licence for many years.
Don't believe all the spam the TV licensing people send. (And they send a lot!) -
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