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- shoveler, on 10/12/2007, -5/+67Yeah, don't know how you could squeeze a product between $0 and $600. In related news, I just heard Toyota is going to stop selling passenger cars because they figure that a Porsche GT2 costs $190,000 and people can walk for free. No potential market.
- bonked, on 10/12/2007, -3/+62Been using pixel for about 8 months now, and it comes in real handy - not quite a photoshop killer, but much better than the gimp for ex-photoshoppers (and even has some nice features all it's own.)
I really wish that Pavel would finally go open source like he has hinted at, the OS world needs a competitor to gimp. - whalesalad, on 10/12/2007, -7/+55Here is a download link, being hosted on my server.
http://www.mw-systems.com/files/pixel_win32_demo529.zip - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+43bag of weed ...$40
stupid comment... free
realising 20 seconds to late you clicked the wrong window to comment in... priceless.
actually i blame on screen keyboard.. try it.. it's in windows just run osk.exe... now open two firefoxes or two of anything.. click on the keyboard to start typing, watch as it annoying switches to the second top most window rather than stay on the top most every time. I just havent gotten used to it's annoying habits. - Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -7/+42You are exactly right. Either that, or somebody like Adobe will buy it just to kill off the competition.
- RomieZ, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36Got my digg...you said Amazing!
- gimmegimmenow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33No, Pavel will not be going open source. He has said many times that he doesn't want to. And if he doesn't, you got to respect his decision. However, he has hinted at making his GUI kit, used to make Pixel, open source.
Besides, if Pixel is a great product that is platform independent, then it's worth it at a convenient price. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30What you mean, is, "I wish it were GPL so I didn't have to pay for it."
Because of course, a free cost is better than supporting nine years of hard work. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+33"Here is a download link, being hosted on my server."
first Thanks..
second you are a brave digger huh, hope your server and pocket book can handle the hits - shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -11/+36it would be even more amazing if it were GPL'd... this will be bought by some graphics company quicksmart if it isn't and we'll all have to pay 5 times as much for it within a year....
- Chewie67, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28"Is everyone forgetting about PaintShopPro?"
Hopefully. It's awful. - valan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27wow, blatantly using the exact same layout and icons. hope they don't get sued.
- billbradford, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26"once it is finished the price will go up to $70-100"
For $99 I can get Photoshop Elements. - boredzo, on 10/12/2007, -9/+29mooninite: Not everybody is a warezer.
- lartexpert, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22I think you're confusing Free Beer and Free Speech here...
Why shouldn't he make money from writing the program - you have a God-given right to have it just because you want it? Maybe the solution is for fives times as many people to buy it, then an offer from Adobe won't seem so appealing to the author. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20I installed Pixel on Ubuntu 6.06 earlier today. It is working nicely and the layout is very similar to PS. I like that it is platform independent.
- arizonagroove, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21"It runs on about any OS one can imagine!"
Finally, some 3rd party software for my imaginary operating system. I've been waiting years for someone to take the initiative. Some said that expecting people to develop for an operating system that existed only as figment of my imagination was un-realistic but I never gave up hope. - Tyrekicker, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21The only thing worse than using the acronym FTW, is using the word 'gay' to mean anything other than a homosexual, or (if you are 80 years old) being very happy.
Grow up and think of a new adjective. - fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17mooninite, if he went to USC, he could probably buy YOU. It's not called the university of spoiled children for nothing.
- TheComputerMutt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I like it, but it keeps crashing on me. =
- yensed, on 10/12/2007, -14/+25I'll stick with GIMP. Tho that program if it were open source possibly could have became a GIMP killer.
- deesine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I'm an actual photoshop user. That means that I make money using photoshop. I take some of that money and upgrade when I need to. That's because there's no program out there that's, well, photoshop.
It does everything I need/want. Until another program can do everything photoshop does, and pretty much have the same adobe interface, I'll be sticking with the much imitated, and much appreciated original, Photoshop.
Note: I don't need the automation and complex batch processing apps like gimp offer. - astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17It crashes hard on OS X. I want my 5 minutes back.
- whalesalad, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13You mean to post that here, or on the previous front page story? Hahaha.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15What the hell are you on?
- ryanjg11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9You may recall before Macromedia was acquired by Adobe, they were actually sued by Adobe for their Flash interface. At the heart of the lawsuit was the "floating panels." Rediculously, Adobe won the suit and Macromedia had to make a couple minor tweaks to their interface to get around it.
But the Pixel user interface is, in most regards, a blatant ripoff of Photoshop. If Pixel gains any traction, one could place a safe bet that Adobe will take some kind of action... - vetipc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10>See GimpShop (http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241)
>if you want to talk about somebody
>potentially getting sued.
Yeah, but Gimp is free, and nobody makes money. Besides there is no single person or company behind GIMP, thus it's pointless to file lawsuits. If it were possible, Microsoft should have done it by now with KDE. And it brings bad publicity to sue FOSS projects, but in this guy's case no one will shed a tear, because his project is non-free. - itomato, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The interface is not a direct ripoff of Photoshop. The icons and the layout differ significantly.
It is in the best interest of the developers of a graphics application to mimic the workflow of Photoshop, as it's the de facto standard. Nobody wants to learn another menu system - especially when you rely on muscle memory. Having to consider which menu to click, where it is, and how far to move down the list with the mouse takes away from the creative flow.
See GimpShop (http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241) if you want to talk about somebody potentially getting sued.
It's downright amazing that it runs on so many platforms!!! GO! - Agret, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19Your mirrored link is missing the linux binaries...
- Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Not at all! I don't mind paying for something, but when it is something this small, I want my investment secured. If the company goes out of business, then I want to have access to the code.
I'll give two contrasts:
1) I purchase OpenBSD CDs for around $40.00 every time it is released. They are still around, but even if they weren't, I have access to the code and somebody out there will pick up the ball and run with it; so to speak.
2) I purchased GoBe Productive and BeOS. They both went out of business and all their technology died with them.
I would rather have an OSS license attached to this product so if/when the guy making it sells out/quits/goes out of business/etc. the technology doesn't die with him.
By the way, I'm sick of people whining "you just want it for free". That has nothing to do with it. I want my investment secured. - wehrmanweb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Runs nice on Ubuntu 6.06! From just messing around with it for the past hour or so I would say it's better then the gimp. It's very similar to photoshop on Windows and can do just about everything it can do too. First time I opened it it locked up on me with just a blank window, killed the process started it back up running like a top now.
- akinder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why does it have to be open source to be good? Just because something is OSS doesn't mean it's immediately awesome, it usually just means that you don't have to pay for it, which is what most of you are into.
- sinfony, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I wonder how many actual Photoshop users think Gimp competes with it. People, you need to be honest with yourselves: if Gimp was anywhere near as good as Photoshop, professionals would stop using Photoshop. But it isn't.
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I still have trouble with FTW, since back in *my* day (read: punk scene, early '90s) FTW was something you saw on biker rings and t-shirts, it meant "***** the World"
- Powerdrift, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9It will run on Intel macs, but in Rosetta.
- whalesalad, on 10/12/2007, -12/+17Hah. Well its Dreamhost and they give me a ***** of bandwidth, so im good to go. Sorry about not uploading the other binaries, didn't even cross my mind.
- worthawholebean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5For $0 I can get the Elements that came bundled with my free (without mail-in rebate, $50) graphics tablet.
- warbird, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Been using this for years now. Actually payed for it. nice program. Was originally hosted at pixel32.box.sk
- anjinash, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7GIMP is very impressive for an open source software that people have put together in their spare time for no money. I have to give it credit for being as powerful as it is.
But it's no Photoshop. The interface is clunky and as a student in graphic design I sure don't want to spend multiple hours each day staring at that headache inducing UI and trying to figure out how to do the things I need to do with it. Like it or not, Photoshop is the defacto standard and sets the bar that all other competing programs must rise to (or above).
I do wish GIMP was on par with PS, though ... I'm using Ubuntu more and more as my primary desktop and would love a good Linux alternative to Photoshop. It would be one less reason to boot into Windows. I'll check Pixel out and see if it's worthwhile, though. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It still has a long way to go, but krita is progressing much faster than gimp and seemws like it has the potential to be a real kickass image editor.
- ryanjg11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You're right, no one wants to learn another workflow. But that's one of Adobe's competitive advantages. The fact that it will take a considerable amount of time to retrain yourself to use another program. So instead, you just shell out the $700 like everyone else. And no, having different icons doesn't save you from an Adobe legal ass-raping.
- hater2win, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Debian/(K/X/Ed)Ubuntu Link:
http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=4%2F&os=8449fcc24cc9c21232504117c1ff32ef&mail= - blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I suspect that because it uses some library to be multiplatform it is not as easy to compile an universal binary with this as with other cocoa native apps.
OSX users tend to be very picky about apps being 'osx like' so the author should definitely go for a Cocoa Gui. I know it requires some work but it would sell, I guess. - diecastbeatdown, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5i love how USC is in one of the dumpiest areas of california. the irony.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7OK besides having patents on interfaces is stupid, why do people think lawsuit?
word used to have an option to make it more like wordperfect for easy transition..
maybe if the photoshop layout was majorly unique, but i am not sure if you can patent button order ect.
Plus what ever happened to legal reverse engineering.. is that dead? can it not be applied to method patents? - mcpowley, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Ditto ;)
- astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5SDL
http://www.libsdl.org/index.php - mikeyaj86, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Website seems to be up and running to me. However here is the link to the download page: http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=4
And here is the link to the Windows version: http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=4%2F&os=539332eaf96d373c11e48a25d30fe938&mail=
OSX: http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=4%2F&os=a87a735bfe38686d85ff180fd323fb56&mail= - Bread, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think a lot of people forget how much time and effort goes into software development, for me, giving a piece of software away, which I had worked on for 9 years of my life, would be like building a house (from free materials) and giving it away for the princely sum of nothing. The price requested is extremely reasonable, if you can't contribute his small request, I hope you enjoy your cardboard box home with tin can telephone.
- swax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Anyone know what library it's using to go multiplatform?
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