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- bdub92, on 10/12/2007, -3/+108I love how they talk about the price like any person on digg actually pays for it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -17/+71$399 for photohop?
screw that, ill wait for a PARADOX keygen :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+51They're trying to pull a Microsoft
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32Industry professionals pay for it. And by industry I mean actual workplaces, and by professionals I mean qualified and employed at the aforementioned workplaces. Sometimes industry professional gets confused with "enthusiast" or "school student" on digg so it's important to clarify,
- perre, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32I hoped that Adobe would abandon the two-tiered Photoshop idea they were kicking around (CS3 vs CS3 Extended).
It's hard enough for any company to develop a single app as complex as Photoshop. Endusers simply feel gouged by tactics such as this (crippling features and charging a premium to have them enabled). When Macromedia last published Flash, they split it in two: Flash and Flash Professional. Both applications are immensely buggy and seemed to have languished in UI hell for years.
I'm glad that - in contrast to splitting Photoshop - the new software lineup suggests that Adobe streamlined Flash back into a single app. - Maxpower57, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20€2,799 !??! This calls for the superpowers of The Pirate Bay!!~
- Sham3d, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18€999 to €2799
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$1,328.07 to $3,720.99
If you were wondering - skyhighrockets, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Is it caturday already!?
- skyhighrockets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14"Please note that European pricing tends to be much higher than U.S. pricing. Straight conversions from Euros to U.S. dollars are unlikely to yield actual U.S. pricing. "
- tzon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16It's prices like these that drive people to Bittorent, etc.
- dkm201, on 10/12/2007, -14/+26"$399 is still utterly ridiculous. College students simply do NOT have that kind of disposable income which is why so many revert to piracy"
It's ridiculous that something I want is expensive! I want it so I should have it for nothing! Because I want it, and I'm me!
To recap, me mine me, me mine. Mine mine mine; Me! Me mine me me -- mine. - perre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12@ElectricGrandpa - I gotta disagree. I use flash pro daily as well. I can't tell you how frequently me and my cube neighbors swear like sailors each time flash quits unexpectedly or we open it in the morning and the frickin library doesn't remember where we last left it. Or the size we last set it at. Or the timeline breaks off when you try to grab something near the top of the timeline and it grabs the top bar... why can't we lock that, you know... Or the.... list goes on and on. Difficulties with pallet management only get amplified with multiple windows (one for coding and one for design). actionscript is solid. Love that. love their continuous development of flash's programming language. And we can do brilliant things in script that no application equals yet.
But this is all fodder for another forum. Hopefully Flash CS3 will adopt some of the beautiful and easy to interface with elements of Photoshop Beta's UI. - KSUdesigner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12"College students simply do NOT have that kind of disposable income which is why so many revert to piracy."
Almost all college students revert to piracy. When I was going through the design program in college everybody was passing around pirated discs of Adobe apps. Graphic design was expensive enough as it was without the added cost of all the apps that are REQUIRED by the university...in addition to books. We even had TAs (usually only a couple years older than us) who would give us a pirated copy if we asked. Even at the educational discount of a few hundred bucks, Adobe makes it rough on the wallet just to get into the industry. Let's just hope they don't turn into the next RIAA. - ElectricGrandpa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12"Both applications are immensely buggy and seemed to have languished in UI hell"
I'll agree that Flash Basic was pointless... But Flash Professional really isn't very buggy, and it's anything but UI hell(I use it every day)... - blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11"It's ridiculous that something I want is expensive! I want it so I should have it for nothing! Because I want it, and I'm me!"
That's not the point. As a professional 2000 Euros once and some upgrades every two years is nothing if it's your main activity. It is just the tools you need to make your money, so paying a small percentage of your earnings to get them is fair.
As a student you make *****. So a fair percentage of that is like 0$. - shableep, on 10/12/2007, -11/+21$399?? that's rediculous. as a college student, i can speak for those that cannot afford such flagrant pricing. it's just madness, Adobe.
*buys an xbox 360*
*buys an ipod*
*buys $100 worth of alcohol for the weekend*
... - digitalarcanum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9do what you want cuz a pirate is free... you are a pirate.
- minitrollster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Hahaha €999 to €2799 are you ***** kidding me?
- DeFex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Adobe knows that cracked photoshop is what the kids learn on, then they go to work and buy photoshop.
I hope they don't pull a Microsoft and put out a new product that you wouldn't want even a legal version of if it was given to you. - mikedaul, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I'm sure you will still be able to purchase the apps individually.
- UNEXPLODEDduck, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12i', m sooo drunkok
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7At mikedual...
Maybe you should read the comment you just replied to again... :P
Even if i actually had that much money to blow on a piece of software, why would I, unless I was in that line of work. The amount that people would use it on a home basis is tiny. Sure i do my fair share of editing, but im not going to pay that much to use it on average half an hour a week or something. - KSUdesigner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Thank god I don't have to purchase this one. My company is an Adobe print affilliate and they send us free upgrades, with 3 licenses. Two computers in the office, no need to tell anybody where the third license ends up!
The only question is, which bundle are they going to upgrade us to? Master collection would sure be nice! - Auto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Adobe has realized they've got a giant cash-cow. People are all too human when it comes to new stuff, and they think because it's the latest they MUST have it to be productive. I still use Photoshop 7 that I paid for, and it serves my purposes just as well. Sure, CS/CS2 comes with some cool stuff but I, unlike many others, am not going to be swindled every six months into purchasing a "new" program.
- CheapDigWannbe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Men get the war machine ready!!!.... Steady! And now crack... crack... upload and seed! Argh!!!!
- Uranium118, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I'm getting that Master Edition TPB version.
- myheaditches, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Getting a pirated version of Photoshop isn't that hard. You just download it from sources, and find a corporate serial key from sources. Adobe's activation system is defeated by Adobe creating serial keys that don't need activation.
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5So if you're in Europe can you just buy the US version for an instant discount?
- Auto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6But.... but..... but..... YOU are a little digg-nerd TOO.
I love how people always talk like they are better than everyone else. - AK10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Just don't do it if you are using it for business. If your competitors even suspect it they can drop a dime and get the BSA crawling up your ass.
- digitalarcanum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@mikedaul:
that's still way too much. when a single upgrade mind you, not a full program costs more than your operating system and half your hardware, there's a problem. when a full installation version costs more than the full price of hardware AND your operating system, said software company has gone ***** insane. - Daniel0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@blackjack75
The word "end-user" means "the person who uses a particular product" according to Oxford English Dictionary. If the product isn't for the end-user, then why is it getting released? A product is ALWAYS meant for the end-user! - Zreitan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Photoshop CS3 is only available in the design standard suite. in every other collection you get photoshop cs3 extended
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's been rebranded to WentLive.
- wingnut21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5^ Which of course, sucks.
- ericpitcock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4So GoLive is officially dead?
- Zreitan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4GoLive is dead sadly... you cna still buy it but adobe doesnt plan to upgrade it again
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"I still use Photoshop 7 that I paid for ... "
Really? I still use the Photoshop 7 I didn't pay for. .. small world. - mikedaul, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11If you are a student or an educational institution staff/employee, the education store prices are actually very reasonable.
https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/index.cfm?store=OLS-EDU
CS2.3 premium education store's price is only $399 as opposed to $1199 retail... - quick5pnt0cobra, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Are they crazy? They wonder why people go through the trouble of getting cracked/pirated versions of Photoshop. This is why! Because they try to rip their customers off by not giving upgrades to older versions, and by overcharging for newer versions. There is no way it only costs some companys $60 to develop quality software while it costs Adobe $1300+ to develop CS. It's BS and they're ripping us off.
Guess I'll have to resort to more cracked software. - MikeCampo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9$3,720.99...that's ridiculous. I've never actually purchased photoshop, but I'm wondering..does a company have to buy one copy per computer/employee?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think the RAM requirements are "whatever vista is not using".
- chewy5000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i got CS2 for 100 bucks through educational bulk discounting. Plus my school laptop already had the Studio 8 apps.
- digitalarcanum, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5yar har fiddle dee dee being a pirate is alright to me.
- guglido, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i think i'll be sticking with the free version of CS3
- mikedaul, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Adobe has ALWAYS offered upgrades for older versions.
The upgrade from CS1 to CS2.3 is currently $550 (vs full version for $1199).
The upgrade from ANY previous version of photoshop to FULL CS2.3 is $749. - tozmervo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Fine. If you do so little editing at home, then there are a plethora of cheaper graphics programs that work quite nicely. Try Paint Shop Pro - only $60 educational. It makes sigs just as well as photoshop can.
- mjh2901, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I use three apps. Dream weaver, Photoshop (barely probably could live with elements), and inDesign. Only the most expensive option has all three. I am tired of buying a bunch of apps I don't use. Bundles are getting really annoying on all fronts. If there's a bundle you can bet your buying a lot of crap you don't need because the individual price on what you do need is higher than the bundle.
- AK10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The reason they can charge so much is that if you figure out how to really use that mere "cool stuff" you can make the money back in a few hours.
Swindled? Hardly. I've been using Photoshop every day since version 3.0 and most of the upgrades paid for themselves almost immediately. Especially the CS versions added features that professionals can really use to save time, ergo make more money.
Sure the Photoshop hobbyist just interested in playing around may not notice, but there are major differences between the versions. - NeoRicen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I gotta agree, I use Flash Pro frequently and it sure as hell ain't buggy, and there's nothing wrong with the UI. In fact it's one of the best programs out there IMO, however if you are on a mac then yes, the interface sucks MAJOR balls, just like Dreamweaver, Flash and Dreamweaver suck incredibly bad on the Mac.
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