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- inactive, on 02/26/2008, -1/+21twhirl is the best twitter AIR app out of all the twitter AIR apps!
- MichaelEgan, on 02/26/2008, -3/+18Article is titled WORTH a look.
- thenumber8, on 02/26/2008, -6/+18hmm, what about Pownce?
- trvr, on 02/27/2008, -2/+10Not sure why you're being dugg down. I agree completely. It took Adobe FOREVER to get Flash 7 or whatever working on Linux. They don't have a very good track record.
- TheGorilla, on 02/27/2008, -1/+8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKzsWH0sQHs
- WayOfTheIronPaw, on 02/27/2008, -0/+7Digg this guy up. It's an actual video of AIR apps. Which is about as close as I (as a Linux user) will get to seeing AIR for some time, I guess.
- inactive, on 02/26/2008, -4/+11I already use Twhirl which is a powerful Adobe Air based App for twitter and the one made for Google Analytics.Adobe Air is really a potential structure for desktop Apps.
- handsoffme, on 02/26/2008, -10/+17Strange, I don't seem to be able to use any of them today. Dirty Linux neglecting *****.
- bcswartz, on 02/27/2008, -0/+6Adobe's looking for volunteers to beta-test the Linux version; here's the info: http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2008/02/20/adob ...
- ryanstewart, on 02/26/2008, -1/+6Make sure to note the original Twhirl page says that he's got a prerelease version for AIR 1.0 to download. Full version will be out soon. Here's a direct link to the 1.0 compatible version - http://www.twhirl.org/files/twhirl-0.6.3.air
- mimilena, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4The Google Analytics one is quite useless. There's nothing new and using it is harder than the Google Analytics website.
I prefer using the original web version at google.com/analytics. The problem with the AIR application is that it's not responsive and it's too slow. The graph is too curved and when you hover over the graph, it takes awhile before the numbers show up. Also, the fading in and out of windows makes everything one second longer.
If the developer stuck to making it more normal instead of trying to make it look fancy (curved graphs, fading windows, etc), it would have been a usable app. - chromerium, on 02/27/2008, -4/+8Uh, wow, these apps really suck. Reminds me of the first AWT apps that came out. Completely ignored the look and feel of the native OS, was sluggish and slow and used poor UI design ... really really long way for this pile of ***** to actually be useful. Oh, and they want $110 for the project management app? Hahaha yeah, right. Get real :)
- ricmac, on 02/26/2008, -2/+6Someone suggested an offline browser in the comments. cool idea.
- aksum4586, on 02/26/2008, -1/+5This is a nice intro into the new air apps, not just Twhirl.
- hamoe, on 02/27/2008, -1/+5Richer web applications would clearly benefit from file system access, local database access, drag/drop support from other applications on your system, and the ability to use a system-native menu (eg File, Edit, etc). The browser does not allow any of this, hence AIR. So, do we really need it? Maybe you don't, but many people weigh the pros and cons of a desktop application to a web application, and this technology will be used by many to sidestep those concerns completely.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4erm... I seem to notice that Adobe doesn't provide a Linux binary of AIR...
- FFIO, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4What about these:
http://a.viary.com/tools/?
Aviary is a suite of web-based applications (RIAs) for people who create. From image editing to typography to music to 3D to video, we have a tool for artists of all genres. All of [their] tools are based right in your browser or as downloadable AIR applications. - hummer13, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3don't think i will be using a program one vertical line from *****.
- TomScrace, on 02/26/2008, -0/+3Agreed. I used to use Snitter, but then found Twhirl and haven't looked back.
- RobotBuddha, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3Why do they even bother? They hardly ever seem to pay much attention to bug reports from the linux flash betas. At least with them, there were enough eyes to do a lot of the legwork for them. It sounds like by going into closed beta we'll get the worst of both worlds. As much as I'm happy there's a linux client at all, the company seems to have an amazing talent for raising up our hopes and then dashing them again.
- superkendall, on 02/26/2008, -4/+6I liked Air better when it was called "Java". At least Java has the kinks worked out now...
- TeatimeGrommit, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3Why exactly do I want to access the web but not open my browser again? Twhirl, almost like IM but no one's signed up yet? Really? I think I'll just stick with gmail.
- kidcodea, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2did you REALLY have to ask?
it's gonna be a train of beating-on-a-dead-man posts. - darkane, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3I don't get it. So it's a platform for running web applications on your desktop. Don't we already have something like that? I think it's called a 'browser'. If offline scenarios are the only true potential, then this is just another widget platform. And if you don't want to call it 'another widget platform', then you can call it what it really is: Another layer between the application itself and the hardware. Is that what we really need?
- wellyuk, on 02/27/2008, -5/+7Wow.. people actually use twitter?
What for, exactly? - bs0l, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3Does twhirl work for the latest version of AIR?
-EDIT- I overcame my laziness and read down the page, there's a prerelease. Thanks "ryanstewart". - Zwigby, on 02/26/2008, -1/+3I love twhirl, what a great nice small application
- Scruffydan, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2I remember having one of those on my old palm III.
it worked great. I synced it in the morning before leaving the house and was able to read the news on the go. It is a shame they don't make it any more. Mobile internet is still to expensive for many people (especially in Canada). - sirdaz, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3The UI widgets in AIR are a tad better than Java swing widgets..
(I think it's called swing in Java anyway) - BossKey, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2"Don't get me wrong, I hate Java as much as the next developer."
You may have answered your own question. Sometimes, it isn't matching the specs that adds value, it's streamlining the process.
Apple (and to some extent Adobe) have built businesses on this concept. - rowjimmy, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1because web browsers already exist?
why take the time to make a web app that runs in a different looking window? i can slightly understand the earlier comment about syncing web for later mobile offline browsing, but even that will be pointless in a few years with wap everywhere and more mobile devices able to use that and/or mobile broadband.
anybody who wants to use any of the web apps the company i work for designs wants to use them when they have internet access, and needs to as they deal with data stored on our servers. if you want to do local file manipulation, use a program built for that (eg, use photoshop to edit images, reason to edit audio, etc) not some bastardized web app made to run locally. - jharlequin, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1I have been working with the prerelease of AIR since the alpha ( about a year ). I am a web developer. I don't know java or c or the like. Not that I couldn't easily switch over to them but again I am a web developer. AIR has some real strong points from what I can see over java or anything else for that matter:
A) AIR is cross platform. Linux isn't out yet but it will be soon enough and when that time comes it should work just like it does on Windows or Mac.
B) AIR apps very easily can be utilized as web apps. So many of the projects we have envision came with ideas for both a web and desktop version. This is great for development time.
C) To a user this bad boy will seem like any other application they install. They will use the same amount of precaution they would have to use for any installed app built with any language.
D) Flash is geared towards the creative. A lot of flash can be gaudy and horrible just as java apps can be ugly as sin. More designers and creative types are likely to be found in the web world. AIR opens them up to the desktop.
E) HTML and Javascript developers can create AIR apps. So if the majority of front end web developers are now able to take their skills and utilize them in more ways I only see that as a good thing. Again I am sure there will be a lot of crap coming out but the night is still young.
I am quite excited to see what awesome things people will surely put out. Now back to my project ;) - joltjake, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1lol, no one likes pownce
- RobotBuddha, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1One could just use curl and get all of that, with native look and feel. Plus the ability to weigh the cost/benefit for native Vs. interpreted languages. The only thing it seems to really offer is the ability to port an actionscript based web app to the desktop without much extra work. Which is good, but not really revolutionary.
- geoffpado, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1There are *tons* of people on Twitter, enough to gather quite a celebrity following. For instance, both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have their own Twitter accounts, and Obama at least even links to his from his campaign site.
- brettmurf, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Man, the first like 10 parent comments feel so staged that it hurts. I could just be paranoid, but until you read the responses it doesn't feel like digg at all. This is like the third AIR article that started off this way, and everyone on here, including myself, don't even get why they are making this in the first place. There is no demand for this at all so the excitement feels somewhat feigned.
- JesseJ, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Looks promising!!!
- daft89, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476924
- synyster, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1can someone explain to me what is the point of pownce(i used it but don't really understand what does it use for).
- MtheoryX, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Dugg up for the Hell's Kitchen "Non-stick" rant.
- kidcodea, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1thats amazing, considering that pownce doesnt do anything anyway.
- phoopee3, on 02/29/2008, -0/+1someone should write an air app that integrates updates from/to pownce, jaiku, and twitter into one app, that'd be intense (and popular)
- inactive, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1It's got a pretty good sandbox actually. I've built some SaaS scheduling apps that are pretty tight, and I haven't seen any issues in security yet.
here: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR:Articles: ... - flexterra, on 06/09/2008, -0/+1http://digg.com/software/Great_Adobe_AIR_Remote_Pr ...
- eighties, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1It also seems to store passwords in cleartext in the SQLite database...
- Scruffydan, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1why not just use jungle disk?
- tofaroni, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1thank god pownce wasn't added. would have completely discredited the list.
- Nogger, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1How about "it is not Java"? Adresses a different audience. The ones who don't know Java, but know HTML, JS, CSS and Flash.
- bs0l, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Pownce isn't working for me, on the latest version of AIR
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