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- remek, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18I suppose only in the United States. You do realize there's like a whole world out there too. Look at the map, its incredible!!
- remek, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14whats this NFL you are speaking of?
- meatmcguffin, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12@atrasolis
Congrats, that was the most pathetic attempt at trolling the World has ever seen.
(By the way, a "World" is the blue and green thing just outside the USA) - ptFoe, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Scottish league players wouldn't make this top 10 so who cares.
- loconet, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Lampard 2nd? wow, that algorithm must have been watching different games.
- Chatchkie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Football is not a game of statistics, and therefore players cannot be judged by them.
- danbt79, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7@hzooms
No offence, but you are definatly being a bit American here. American sports *tend* to tightly segregate within themsleves - positions, roles, positioning, even build vary dramatically within a team.
Football is not as tightly codified, for want of a better word, as American sports can be. There are 10 outfiled players in a football team and whilst there's a clear difference between the roles of, say, a striker and a central defender, the game is very loose - that's part of the beauty of it. Midfield players drop back and hold, wide players track back to defend and are overlapped by the full backs - central defenders come up for corners and so.
In fact there's a famous Dutch team called Ajax who popularised 'Total Football' a while back. This is the idea that a player takes on the role of the position for wherever he may find himself on the pitch. This is an extremely flowing form of football that requires a very talented squad.
Hope that helps! Now stop watching that gridiron crap you have on over there and learn about proper football! (ducks for cover!) - laplacian, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8hah, they simulated seasons to get the stats. good luck getting anything resembling valid data with that technique.
- zeno60, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5He's #39. Its not the top British players nyrol, the top players in the english premiership.
- joewashere, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4wow. well i bet this algorithm is winning big bucks playing fantasy football.
- gmanr26, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6This list is complete rubbish.....
Players who do not deserve to be in the top 10:
Gilberto (Arsenal)
Lehmann (Arsenal)
Howard (Everton)
Hleb (Arsenal)
Scholes (Manchester United)
Players who should take there place on the list
Fabregas (Arsenal)
Drogba (Chelsea)
Essien (Chelsea)
Berbatov (Tottenham)
Agger (Liverpool) *did really well in the defense this season* - Tabou, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Drogba as 19th puts the validity of this list into question.
- mammajamma101, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Looking thru, this list kept throwing up random non-sensical results. For example, apparently Robbie Keane outplayed Didier Drogba this season. The most glaring mistake being Titus Bramble is not number 403...
- remek, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4buried as inaccurate
- ptFoe, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7At least they got Ronaldo @ 1.
- fitzpas, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7Sorry to be pedantic, but this is the top players in England's premiership, not the UK. I got excited and thought that Scottish teams would be represented.
Good link though, nice approach. - Zique, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4NFL Europe? There's a whole league catering to American expats?
I'm serious, how do they get any viewers here? - ptFoe, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Mandeep - "One lucky season"
are you on crack? He has always been a very good player with amazing potential.
Mandeep that is one gay indian name you have.
"they put the wrong ronaldo there.."
This is 2007not 2001. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3totally inaccurate... Drogba isnt on there neither is Henry from Arsenal or Rooney or Cole or Crouch
- danbt79, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4...and yet you clicked the story, logged in and left a disparaging comment about it. Bravo!
Give me your adddress and I'll send you a little red lollipop as a reward for enriching the discussion here. - aDJsavedmylife, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3"Are there even 10 English players left in the EPL?"
Rio Ferdinand
Micheal Carrick
Wayne Rooney
Darren Fletcher
Alan Smith
Wes Brown
Gary Neville
Paul Scholes
Kieran Richardson
Ben Foster
And that's just one team...
Also about Henry: he was ***** this season. Great player but he's got no passion left. - offstump, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2All this proves is that statisticians know f.a about football. Even my Granny who is blind and Scottish can tell that Gerrard is twice the player Lampard will ever be. Hleb is probably not even the 10th most effective player in his family far the less the premiership. Bentley is, according to these clowns, the 3rd worst player in the league while Benny Macarthy makes the top 10.
How in gods name do you quantify the contribution made by a goalkeeper? Almost every keeper is at the top or the bottom of his clubs list depending on where they finished in the league. Goals conceded and league position do not tell the whole story, for example Ben Foster had a cracking season at Watford despite conceding more goals than almost any other keeper. - calebcherry, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Interesting model, but this can't account for leadership, moxie, or "threat level". Case and point, Rooney was looked to be the chief striker after van horsey face left for real madrid and saha was hampered with injuries. he's physical in the box and can even make plays while marked closely, which lead to a lot of teams double covering him throughout the season. now i'm not saying this is why C. Ronaldo had such a great year, but this level of play and involvement wasn't expected at the beginning of the season and some of it has to do with the fact that rooney had a HUGE target on him all season.
such is the value of someone like terrell owens, tory holt, or deon branch in the NFL... if they don't catch a ball all day because they were double covered on every play and that helped other people score to win the game, then job well done... you can't ask for more than that.
i know this article is only statistical proof, but my argument is for making sure people don't give statistics more credit than they deserve.
the only stats that matter is the score at the end of the game and the wins at the end of the season. - 50pence, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I know, he scored 10 goals in 17 games, hurt. Like seriously.... It i the club thats uk not the player.
- danbt79, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Yet more truly stunning logical reasoning on digg.
- jamiejim, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2because he hasnt played all season, he has been injured
- danbt79, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4This article is actually from a non-american website.
Non-american's actually make up the *vast* majority of people in the world.
These non-american's tend not to give a single solitary ***** if american's become confused by the way they do things.
Sorry - that's the way it is. You call gridiron football, we call soccer football. It's a fair trade.
The fact that you american's get so riled up when you realise the rest of the planet doesn't like your sport and has another sport called football is a *bad* thing.
Getting riled up about little things like this is kinda one of the reasons you guys aren't liked that much at the moment. - retawd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3NFL Europe? Is Europe a nation now?
- danbt79, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Crouch??? Haha! Very dry.
- diecastbeatdown, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Thierry Henry 39 and RVP 47, damn those injuries! =/
- maglob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You can't rate a player of statistics alone, Lampard has got up there after not having a excellent season (Chelsea could have coped without him) yet Drogba who was essential to the squad this year was not mentioned in the top 10...you need to have opinions in sport not rate bloody statistics alone.
- protossss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Not a bad last for this season at all. Some dodgy choices like Hleb in 10th (LOL) but in general quite good. Also the full backs seem get a raw deal - can only see centre backs in the top 5 defenders. Henry has been injured for long periods this season.
- Supernova36, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I like how Robinson and Foster, Endlands no 1 and 2, are both on the worst 5 keepers list.
- ahoy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2How is Thierry Henry not on UK's top ten?
I say meh to this algorithm. - loconet, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2@nyrol2
and C. Ronaldo is Portuguese, what's your point? - protossss, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2WOW mini Arsene Wenger here :s
- maglob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1He's big, he's red, his feet stick out of bed....PETER CROUCH CORUCH CROCH
- maglob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I wouldn't say he was *****, but not his best season, injuries don't help. His absence was Arsenals down full
- maglob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1drop him the the England squad, that will make him work hard to get his form back, plus England will benifit as he is a donkey for England (not for Chelsea though).
- hsooms, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2ok so as an american who knows very little about soccer/football i have to ask, isn't it silly to rate defensive players against the strikers/forwards or whatever you call them? i mean, different positions hold value for different reasons. it would be like comparing a center and a guard in basketball, you need different skill sets depending on your roll on the team. how can you put all players onto one list?
or maybe i'm completely wrong here and don't understand the positioning of soccer players... - danbt79, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1We're making progress here!
You've gone from not recognising soccer as a sport to comparing football (albeit in quotes) with the sport of Hockey. Good for you!
Now if you can just muster up the maturity to accept that while some sports are not for you, they have merit and many people like them - rather than call anything you don't like as '*****' - and you'll be a proper grown-up.
How exciting! - gmanr26, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1you sound a little biased....
so I'll go ahead and say ***** Drogba - andrewa, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@info101:
Wow. Ever thought about being a football scout?
Geez.... Is there actually anybody interested in football that didn't notice twinkle-toes a few years ago. The only way he wouldn't have become one of the best was if he had been hit by the team bus or something. Duh. - kevdotbadger, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This is silly, if a player plays 1 game, then plays like hell he would have a great rating?
I think we should stick to the OFFICIAL ACIMSTATS on the Premier league's site. - maglob, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Europe is a nation to pig-ignorant "football" fans. Plus if American sports are so good, why don't people play them anywhere else in the world other than as a past time. Basketball is taken as seriously dominos here and american "football" is rated even lower.
Rest of the World > America - nelziq, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Sure it is. But there is only one statistic that counts: goals scored. This method of ranking players is based on who contributes to his team scoring goals and not letting in goals.
- nicc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0while Gerrard is a great player, for some reason Rafa insists on playing him out of his best position.
Gerrard should play as a center midfielder where he can roam the field, not a center forward or a winger.
while I understand that injuries, etc can force you to use players in positions other than their preferred spots, you still need to play to your strengths! - nicc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I'm a Arsenal fan and I wouldnt have expected Henry (even Van Persie) to rank high on this list for this past season.
maybe if he had been healthy, but he was injured for over half of the season...
I was surprised to see Lampard ranked higher than Drogba. - dfk789, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I Like how digg seems to be more of an arsenal fan. That pleases me :)
- Buck0Satan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0***** Ronaldo
and how is Drogba 19th with the season he had? -
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