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- p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25This direction of this proposal is currently not heading in the direction of the consumer. If there is a time to act it is assuredly now.
Clearly the current government needs to brought under 'siege' by the next electoral process with participating corporations feeling a similar wrath from the customers whose trust apparently they could give 2 ***** about.
This proposal is really not about protecting life and innocence. It is rather but just one more example of the proliferation of a megalomania surveillance infrastructure in service of a police state.
In the name of liberty and REAL security - this MUST be stopped.
Anonymously yours,
p9s50W5k4GUD2c6
Lot of good that will do me... - realfinkployd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15"Are you expecting labour camps or anything of similar abhorance to be established in the US any time soon?"
Of course not, my approach is very simple. With each new instance where we find out the government is doing something unconstitutional and treating everyone like a potential criminal, I simply assume that this is a far as they will go and it will not get any worse. With each new revelation, I repeat the process. Should I being to feel that maybe I have poor pattern recognition, I repeat to myself that "they are only using these powers against people they unilaterally define as terrorists, and the government has never lied or abused power before" and the feeling passes. It I feel really paranoid I remind myself that we are at war, and only a traitor would ever question government in a time of war.
Why do you ask? - brandizzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I'm not a criminal so don't treat me like one.
- LiterateWolf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12People thought that too when fascists took over Italy. A few labor camps later and they changed their minds.
- lasermike026, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9This government is run by raving lunatics. This must stop now.
- mattmiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Does anyone else smell a link between the impending defeat of net neutrality and the telcos giving the feds everything they want?
- SmokedL, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@realfinkployd
Observe and learn diggers. Sarcasm honed to a razor edge, wielded with the touch of a surgeon, to show the absurdity of a common position in stark contrast.
digg++ - there, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"WTF the USA wants to catch up with Europe which has forced internet firms to store emails for awhile now"
Europe has gone too far to giving the state access without putting protections from abuse in place. They're going to regret eventually when europeans start realizing their government is treating them like employees. - dubya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The fact is, even if we got all new candidates in Washington, unless the two major parties change their platforms specifically to address this issue, it will make no difference. It is up to the third parties I guess. *crosses fingers*
- javiel, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5If this happens There goes "Right to privacy"
- mattmiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Very interesting that the Feds are trying to pull this crap with both the Telco/ISP sector and also the service providers (MSN, Google, Yahoo!) while those two sides are simultaneously squaring off over net neutrality. Should be interesting to see how all that pans out.
- spyro187, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is so out of hand. I love my country as much if not more than the next guy. But, it is about time to find a better place. How is Austrailia this time of year? Do they rape you of your rights and blame it on terror?
Im willing to trade my so called safety to get my rights back. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It's called the Libertarian Party. www.lp.org
We could use everyones' votes. - SoAnIs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Well, we did it before (see the internment camps & the Japanese) so why not do it again?
- tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I hope not, I hope that smell is just what I ate last night.
- tehgooch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Rightly so, IMO.
- sanza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is the start of something really horrendous. It's the government saying "we don't trust you" rather than "We'll trust you until you do something to lower our faith in you".
Perhaps we should try to hunt down Bin Laden (a real threat) rather than hunt within our own ranks.
If the government wants to keep Internet data then gather it from people who have been guilty of computer crimes or child porn felons -- not from millions of innocent citizens. And the gov should pay for this ENCRYPTED data retention, not the IP's.
I so hate being treated worse than a child by my elected officials (especially the ones I didn't elect). - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Hum, there's a big problem when government requires citizens to retain information on other citizens for purposes of spying on them, especially under an administration that values its own privacy so much that it can't be bothered to secure its own rubberstamp secret warrants.
- Gills, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If I was an American I would be in a panic over the way things are going
- 5blocksfree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@scott1 -> We can't do anything there poltican's as long we vote for them(no matter who) they don't listen to us.
I don't believe this to be true. Many politicians that have turned leaching into a lifestyle choice, have a lot to lose if they do not get re-elected. If citizens actually start thinking about what's going on, rather than blindly accepting the rash of meaningless political ads they'll see around election time, incumbents should have reason to worry. - diggduggjoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As I have mentioned to others when they insist "If, you have nothing to hide...", 26 million vets and active duty soldiers have been brutally screwed by the VA. If, that info was cared for as it should have been, it would have never been breached. Corporations have messed up a lot, too. Privacy is important because the information may be used against you. Governments and corporations really do not give a damn what happens to you and that means they should not be allowed to snoop on you. They should be fiscally responsible for the damage they cause when they leak your info. Consumers must demand less information be held about them.
Change will not happen for most Americans do not understand our Constitution and why it was written the way it was. The founding fathers DID NOT TRUST government. It was a necessary evil, that needed to be limited.
- greyfade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1vote for the Pirate Party. :D
- Wyzard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What does running a traceroute have to do with the government monitoring your browsing habits?
- keksovkeks, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1About use proxy and anonymous surfing http://vprivatenetwork.com/index.php?action=config
- indoloony, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm not worried about the feds. What if this information is somehow procured by private interests? the way banks and credit agencies have been losing credit information, I'm really worried..
- NinjAlt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2No need to worry. Let them have this and bring the case against you, and then you file for a mistrial for violating your rights.
- sbostedor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yet another reason to use your neighbors wireless AP. ;)
- jasqwerty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Move to Mexico. The trick is to avoid getting kidnapped.
- tehgooch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Bin Laden is an old (possibly dying) guy in a cave who will probably never get another chance to attack the United States again. Other than that I don't think the government should be keeping this data at all. Stay the ***** out of my life.
- format, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2*sniffs* I think so...
- glocksout, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is nothing new, of course. I'm sure many politicians head to Washington with pure intentions, but when they get there they learn there is a way this country is ran, and it's not in the hands of the politicians. There are secrets these people don't learn until after they've been elected (and sometimes not until their junior year), and you can't just change what's happening under a mountain in Colorado - it changes you.
Washington is filled with people walking around with their fingers in the air trying to guage which way the winds are going. They've got to remain relevant to maintain votes afterall. What we need in the houses of power are men and women with "huge heuvos grandes", moral fortitude and impassioned moderation. - EAMUS1CATULI, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1BRILLIANT!!! This is awesome news...The justice system needs anyway possible to get a conviction ..im voting YES!
:) - Niteryder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You need to seriously worry, your own opinions can lead to your demise.
- tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Correction LaserMike, this government is ran by conservative racist.
- jasqwerty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1No one in EU minds, why should Americans?
- toastgodsupreme, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This is dark territory.
Oh man, two Steven Segal references in two days on Digg... will it never end? - FruitPicker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Aren't we already under constant surveillence via Echelon? Doesn't the government already collect information between internet endpoints? Ever run a traceroute? Aren't some or many corporations fronts for the DOD and aren't they using that position to collect data on Americans? My guess is privacy was under seige many decades ago and only now is it coming out for the sole purpose of encouraging us the accept total surveillence as the new reality.
- jasqwerty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yes, it's all conservatives and racists.... DUMBASS!
Democrats are just as effective at chugging out retarded legislation. Reference the Take Two debacle for something recent. - SoulCast, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0There are a few ways for users to remain anonymous on their own, by using anonymous proxies or by surfing with remote connections. But the only real way for users to remain anonymous on a public website is for the site itself to maintain strict policies about protecting their users' privacy. Like not collecting IP addresses. It's sounds a bit insane, because most companies want that information because of its potential value. But what if that information isn't valuable to some companies? There are companies like that out there, and we're one of them. The privacy issue has become such a big deal today that we had to address it by committing to strictly maintain anonymity and privacy for our users, who happen to create blogs.
- scott1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1We can't do anything there poltican's as long we vote for them(no matter who) they don't listen to us.
- qaddafi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0
people to love:
Cheney
Rumsfeld
Wolfowitz
+ more :) - antinomy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Have you ever jaywalked in your life?
- b0n0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0One word, "DemocraKey"
- tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Or some Digg users are smoking too much pot.
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Article marked as lame.
The governement already has had ISP recording information about its users...the government just wants them to keep the information longer....
How is the infringing on privacy again? - danjal, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2get back to me when that law is effective in ireland....
- Celeron, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Lately, there has been so many privacy and personal security issues on Digg. We sure are getting paranoid.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1OMG WTF the USA wants to catch up with Europe which has forced internet firms to store emails for awhile now. OMG the sky is falling, this is Bush's fault! Got to get on myspace and call all my fellow leftist friends to action over the loss of privacy we took for granted but isn't protected in the constitution!
- ThisGeek, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6I don't plan on doing anything criminal, nothing which could be the basis of any investigations, any time soon so I'm not worried.
Just to be the first one to say it... -
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